Another reason why FALLOUT 3 is FAILout 3

[QUOTE="A_zombie"]

Because he secretly hates me :P

IronBass

Come on. Everybody secretly hates you :P

I'm going to say this, "I don't like Fallout 3. In fact, I hate it."

A_zombie

Everybody hates at least one of the "highly rated games". You can bet I hate some ;)

lol So true :P It's true everyone hates me ;)

[QUOTE="dnuggs40"][QUOTE="A_zombie"]

Because he secretly hates me :P

The thing is, I was bored with it. I didn't like it. At all. I really didn't. I don't care if people LOVE it so much. But the thing is, this is me. Here is me saying, "I don't like Fallout 3. In fact, I hate it." There wasn't that much of freedom that you were given in Fallout 1 and 2. But it was practically nonexistant in Fallout 3 when compared to the previous iterations.

I'm going to say this, "I don't like Fallout 3. In fact, I hate it."

That is all.

A_zombie

Oh I do undesrtand the huge difference. But again, my opinion. One day you will understand this.

[QUOTE="dnuggs40"][QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

Yeah, it's really overrated. But not for that reason.

It's mostly because the game feels like it's written by and for 6 year olds. Oh, and its horribly unbalanced stat-system. And the oddly mishapen characters. And the horrid main quest.

aliblabla2007

Doesn't change how overrated the game is.

Sure it does...it clearly shows the mind set (and ridiculousness) of the people making the "overrated" claims. Yeah yeah...opinions opinions. You know in some people's opinion having someone give you a Cleveland Steamer is extremely sexy...dnuggs40

So, are you saying that the game doesn't have sucky writing, unbalanced stats, badly done character models and a horrible main quest? Well, if so, then I think you better not call me "ridiculous". :|

Anyway, yes, I have an opinion that the game is a horrible RPG and I'm not going to change it because some guy on a forum seems to think that his opinion is above mine. Well, that's his opinion.

[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

[QUOTE="dnuggs40"] There is no hyperbole in this comment. /sarcasmdnuggs40

Doesn't change how overrated the game is.

Yeah, it's really overrated.

It's mostly because the game feels like it's written by and for 6 year olds. Oh, and its horribly unbalanced stat-system. And the oddly mishapen characters. And the horrid main quest.

It's one of the worst games I've played this generation. Invert the 9 score and you'd have a more accurate number for how good the game is.

aliblabla2007

Did I miss something? Why's Subrosian defending Fallout 3?IronBass

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Did I miss something? Why's Subrosian defending Fallout 3?A_zombie

Because he secretly hates me :P

The thing is, I was bored with it. I didn't like it. At all. I really didn't. I don't care if people LOVE it so much. But the thing is, this is me. Here is me saying, "I don't like Fallout 3. In fact, I hate it." There wasn't that much of freedom that you were given in Fallout 1 and 2. But it was practically nonexistant in Fallout 3 when compared to the previous iterations.

I'm going to say this, "I don't like Fallout 3. In fact, I hate it."

That is all.

I love fallout 3 it's definitely one of the best games ever, though sometimes I can't be bothered to do anything and I like to relax with Fawkes, Charon and Dogmeat in my gaffT-51B

I wish I could've tried it on the PC but...

*kicks PC*

It sucks. My laptop can barely run Sins of the Solar Empire on Medium. So I'm stuck with a weak laptop. :(

A_zombie

[QUOTE="A_zombie"]The VATS system was fun, the exploration was boring and tiresome and annoying. Having to walk from one side to get to the far left of the map was a long painstaking process. It bored me to death. It REALLY bored me to death :| subrosian

The exploration is what makes it Fallout :|

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Have you played Fallout 1 or 2, or enjoyed any other open-world RPGs?

Fallout 1 and 2 had a better system for exploration - the map screen and random encounter systems cut out all of the boring bits. Fallout 3 just had hours and hours of slowly jogging through an empty wasteland, which was boring.

Fallout 3 is still Fallout 3.....its not FAILout3 due to some busted DLC I hated Operation Anchorage, it was crap, linear and short the Pitt looked dull and annoying with those trog things... I want to see Broken SteelWWIAB

So...you thought that the first two DLCs were bad, but you're still optimistic about the third one? :P

Oh, and I agree with many of the above posters: it was already Failout 3, even without the DLC.
That's not to say that it was a bad game, but it was far too poorly designed/thought out/coded/written to be a 'great' game, and it definitely fails in comparison to the first two.

still the best RPG in the last 5 yearsSonic_on_crack

Sure, if you pretend that The Witcher, Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer, Vampire: Bloodlines, etc. don't exist.

And yeah, I guess I agree with Skrat - the design flaws and poor writing could've been overlooked had the main quest been worthwhile, but it wasn't, so my overall impression of the game was quite negative.

[QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"]still the best RPG in the last 5 yearsPlaneforger

Sure, if you pretend that The Witcher, Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer, Vampire: Bloodlines, etc. don't exist.

[QUOTE="Planeforger"]

[QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"]still the best RPG in the last 5 yearsSonic_on_crack

Sure, if you pretend that The Witcher, Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer, Vampire: Bloodlines, etc. don't exist.

Then I'd have to include Morrowind, Divine Divinity, KOTOR I and II... :P

Oh, and have you played any of the games I listed in my original post? I'd be interested to hear why you thought Fallout 3 was a better game.

Um...... I love Fallout 3, best RPG I've played this gen besides Mass Effect, so sue me for liking it. Little_Big_Dude

[QUOTE="Little_Big_Dude"]Um...... I love Fallout 3, best RPG I've played this gen besides Mass Effect, so sue me for liking it. gmc2u_64

well not really. I'm just highly critical of those faults. The biggest merit of the game, and where I enjoyed it the most, is the exploration, and the side quests. I thought it was great (even If I agree with Planeforger that Fallout 1/2 had a better system of exploration). Never the less the finely crafted world was a very enjoyable to explore, and side quests - even if some were pretty... dumb/ill thought out, they gave you a variety of choice and opions, as a good RPG should. However when you factor in that horrible main quest which gave almost no choice, and consequence - and was poorly made in general, as well as all of the other games faults, it weighs down on the quality of the game.skrat_01

Well this is definitely what made me enjoy the game even more, the fact I could completely forget about the main quest and focus on the world, extra quests exploration etc. I know that's not an excuse for a broken main quest but still I'd like to see even more games to put more detail in these aspects like Fallout 3 which made it great.

I really don't think the point and click exploration system in fallout 1/2 is leagues ahead of the one in 3, I mean the over world was really bad compared to this.

Thats what you get for buying it on the 360 instead of the PC.

i agree, fallout 3 is pretty bad and there isn't an rpg better than world of warcraft.

[QUOTE="A_zombie"]The VATS system was fun, the exploration was boring and tiresome and annoying. Having to walk from one side to get to the far left of the map was a long painstaking process. It bored me to death. It REALLY bored me to death :| subrosian

The exploration is what makes it Fallout :|

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Have you played Fallout 1 or 2, or enjoyed any other open-world RPGs?

hahahahaha. Fallout 3 and Oblivion got good sales and a good fan base. Does it really make you feel supior **** about why it's no good? I dont think anyone truelly cares that you want to pick it apart.

They were good games. Both of them. If you dont like them you dont like them, that doesnt make the games bad. Unless your a nazi or something. GTA IV had some gnarly glitches.

Halo 3's graphics were nothing exciting.

Killzone 2 garggled the phail mouthwash and shallowed.

I could go on. Point being people will still die for those games. So just chill the freak out. Spazzes.

Exploration is great if there is actually something interesting to SEE.NAPK1NS

When people stops looking for what the game doesn't do and instead looks for what it actually does, then it will look impressive.

Fallout 3 is an awesome game, thats just the way it is so get over whatever weird reasons you have for not liking it.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Meh. The game without any DLC is awesome enough, though. By far, one of the best games this gen.A_zombie

lol, Mr. Bass, I find it directly opposite of BEST game this gen :P

[QUOTE="A_zombie"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Meh. The game without any DLC is awesome enough, though. By far, one of the best games this gen.KorruptRaiden

lol, Mr. Bass, I find it directly opposite of BEST game this gen :P

[QUOTE="KorruptRaiden"][QUOTE="A_zombie"]

lol, Mr. Bass, I find it directly opposite of BEST game this gen :P

Stevo_the_gamer

Fallout 3 is one of my favourite games this gen. My only problems with it are the main quest endings and some technical issues.

[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

Yeah, it's really overrated.

It's mostly because the game feels like it's written by and for 6 year olds. Oh, and its horribly unbalanced stat-system. And the oddly mishapen characters. And the horrid main quest.

It's one of the worst games I've played this generation. Invert the 9 score and you'd have a more accurate number for how good the game is.

Bigboi500

That is the point of saints row 2 though it is suppose to be ridiculous, Fallout was trying to be serious at points and it failed to do so.

[QUOTE="A_zombie"]

[QUOTE="lhughey"] I disagree. One of his main assertions was that he thought the game sucked or "failed". I was simply pointing out how his opinion is not shared with most published reviews.

Dang you have alot of post for a level 26!

Animal-Mother

Ok, first off, I say it it sucks, I've mentioned it's a great game to other people to my friends but I don't like it. At all. I really don't. Who cares about what metacritic says, I don't let other people's opinion change MINE. It's my opinion and it's how I feel about the game.

[QUOTE="A_zombie"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"]Meh. The game without any DLC is awesome enough, though. By far, one of the best games this gen.IronBass

lol, Mr. Bass, I find it directly opposite of BEST game this gen :P

i haven't really played any of the DLC, but i thought the main quest was awesome.

[QUOTE="dnuggs40"] Sure it does...it clearly shows the mind set (and ridiculousness) of the people making the "overrated" claims. Yeah yeah...opinions opinions. You know in some people's opinion having someone give you a Cleveland Steamer is extremely sexy...aliblabla2007

So, are you saying that the game doesn't have sucky writing, unbalanced stats, badly done character models and a horrible main quest? Well, if so, then I think you better not call me "ridiculous". :|

Anyway, yes, I have an opinion that the game is a horrible RPG and I'm not going to change it because some guy on a forum seems to think that his opinion is above mine. Well, that's his opinion.

The pitt was greatSAGE_OF_FIRE