Another subpar PS3 multiplatform game. Sigh

http://n4g.com/ps3/News-78364.aspximapieceofwood

Promises, promises.

JUST WAIT for your patch.

But Europeans do.

This will certainly not help Sony this holiday season.

Pimpshigity21

[QUOTE="farrell2k"][QUOTE="Gaara79"]

The 360 version is unplayable online too. The online lag is crazy. you can see the state of both conections during the game. Even if both conections are great and you have a full bar at the top of the screen it still lags.

Pimpshigity21

And that, folks, is how one defends the PS3 version: By attacking the 360 version...

Nah, man...I checked it out and it is true (not as bad, but there nonetheless) .

I went to pesfan.com and the lag issue on the 360 is also a problem.

The framerate issue is still a problem on the PS3 though.

Konami dissapointed me with last year's 360 Winnin Eleven. In this case, we might have a case of lazy (or stupid) devs after all.

......and the reason I supposed to care about this gay sport is why again?

......and the reason I supposed to care about thisgaysport is why again?

megaton3k

......and the reason I supposed to care about thisgaysport is why again?

megaton3k

[QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/10/25/pes-2008-features-serious-lag-on-ps3/

Now the PS3 version of Pro Evolution is having problems (broken online and poor framerates)

The programmers at Konami are lazy devs, right?

Boy, I'm glad I own a 360. This is going to be a must buy for me.

Pimpshigity21

Yeah, they are caught between a rock and a hard place with this one.

What a dilemma. How will they defend the PS3 now?

This should be interesting...

Here's how: CoD4, Assassin's Creed, R&C, Uncharted, etc., etc. There are some abosolutely beautiful, smooth, and great games for PS3. The more you ignore that the less credit you have.

I don't deny 360 has some great games. Why is it that you're so skewed that all you can do is find those multiplats that are PORTED to the PS3. Any games made on PS3 and ported to the 360 will also be a lesser game.

This thread and the link it contains does not say anything about the PS3's abilities. With the games listed above, and all others yet to come in 2008, there's no way you can believe this crap.

No, but FIFA will, and the PS3 is better.DilutedDante

Really?

Metacritic:

Fifa PS3 = 81

Fifa 360 = 82

Who cares anyway...FIFA is crap. But hey, FIFA on the PS3 makes sens: Crappy Game on a Crappy Console.

[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/10/25/pes-2008-features-serious-lag-on-ps3/

Now the PS3 version of Pro Evolution is having problems (broken online and poor framerates)

The programmers at Konami are lazy devs, right?

Boy, I'm glad I own a 360. This is going to be a must buy for me.

The_Crucible

Yeah, they are caught between a rock and a hard place with this one.

What a dilemma. How will they defend the PS3 now?

This should be interesting...

Here's how: CoD4, Assassin's Creed, R&C, Uncharted, etc., etc. There are some abosolutely beautiful, smooth, and great games for PS3. The more you ignore that the less credit you have.

I don't deny 360 has some great games. Why is it that you're so skewed that all you can do is find those multiplats that are PORTED to the PS3. Any games made on PS3 and ported to the 360 will also be a lesser game.

This thread and the link it contains does not say anything about the PS3's abilities. With the games listed above, and all others yet to come in 2008, there's no way you can believe this crap.

Wow, you sound like a broken record. No matter what the subject of a thread, your post always contain something about COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted (lol, the game isn't even out yet). This thread is about PES and yet you somehow managed to mention COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted...you don't even make sense.

COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted.

COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted.

COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted.

There, are you in ecstasy now?

Funny how you never talk about Lair, Motorstorm, Folklore...PES (lol)...etc, etc.

[QUOTE="thegame1980"][QUOTE="farrell2k"][QUOTE="Gaara79"]

The 360 version is unplayable online too. The online lag is crazy. you can see the state of both conections during the game. Even if both conections are great and you have a full bar at the top of

Vitalife2

And that, folks, is how one defends the PS3 version: By attacking the 360 version...

With misguided information that is utterly ridiculous.

No, I have the game for my 360 and this version does suffer from lag.

Um....Halo 3 lags.

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/10/25/pes-2008-features-serious-lag-on-ps3/

Now the PS3 version of Pro Evolution is having problems (broken online and poor framerates)

The programmers at Konami are lazy devs, right?

Boy, I'm glad I own a 360. This is going to be a must buy for me.

Pimpshigity21

ok have fun wiht that while we get better version of Call Of Duty 4...lol FACT

[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/10/25/pes-2008-features-serious-lag-on-ps3/

Now the PS3 version of Pro Evolution is having problems (broken online and poor framerates)

The programmers at Konami are lazy devs, right?

Boy, I'm glad I own a 360. This is going to be a must buy for me.

whocares4peace

lol yea, but Konami isnt making it, they publish it... its all Hideo Kojima and his 200+ dev team...

[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/10/25/pes-2008-features-serious-lag-on-ps3/

Now the PS3 version of Pro Evolution is having problems (broken online and poor framerates)

The programmers at Konami are lazy devs, right?

Boy, I'm glad I own a 360. This is going to be a must buy for me.

JAMES_L_BROOKS

ok have fun wiht that while we get better version of Call Of Duty 4...lol FACT

Ok, I will...and so will millions of people all over the world.

After the horrible reviews, I wonder which version those people will buy.

( Call Of Duty 4 better on the PS3...lol :lol: )

another PS3 multiplat is inferior, and cows are mad because they're running out of valid excuses

Unbelievable. They scored the 360 version two full points higher than the ps3 version. (360 got a 9 to the ps3's 7.)

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/xbox360/pes7/review-2.html

You know it's bad when there's a petition for it!

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/PES2008Slowdownruinsit

[QUOTE="The_Crucible"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/10/25/pes-2008-features-serious-lag-on-ps3/

Now the PS3 version of Pro Evolution is having problems (broken online and poor framerates)

The programmers at Konami are lazy devs, right?

Boy, I'm glad I own a 360. This is going to be a must buy for me.

Pimpshigity21

Yeah, they are caught between a rock and a hard place with this one.

What a dilemma. How will they defend the PS3 now?

This should be interesting...

Here's how: CoD4, Assassin's Creed, R&C, Uncharted, etc., etc. There are some abosolutely beautiful, smooth, and great games for PS3. The more you ignore that the less credit you have.

I don't deny 360 has some great games. Why is it that you're so skewed that all you can do is find those multiplats that are PORTED to the PS3. Any games made on PS3 and ported to the 360 will also be a lesser game.

This thread and the link it contains does not say anything about the PS3's abilities. With the games listed above, and all others yet to come in 2008, there's no way you can believe this crap.

Wow, you sound like a broken record. No matter what the subject of a thread, your post always contain something about COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted (lol, the game isn't even out yet). This thread is about PES and yet you somehow managed to mention COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted...you don't even make sense.

COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted.

COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted.

COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted.

There, are you in ecstasy now?

Funny how you never talk about Lair, Motorstorm, Folklore...PES (lol)...etc, etc.

You are the one who missed the point of this thread. If those games he and you mentioned can look great on the PS3, why can't PES? Pleas explain that to me.

Quote fromPes producer Seabass:

"We were shocked because the ps3 has more slowdown and we dont really know why"

The ps3 was the lead format this year. Looks like everyones better off when the 360 is the lead.

[QUOTE="megaton3k"]

......and the reason I supposed to care about thisgaysport is why again?

jonesy1911

There are much more rules in American Football than any sport I know of.

But Soccer, or football...or futbal is the most popular sport in the world and is definetly not "gay".

......and the reason I supposed to care about this gay sport is why again?

megaton3k

lol I thought the ps3 version would be better.. So people that get the ps3 bundle with PES2008 are gonna get some suprise afterall..

lol I thought theps3 version would be better.. So people that get the ps3 bundle with PES2008 are gonna get some suprise afterall..

ByFly

360 has the same problems that is in PS3, the framerate issue is on replays, cutscenes and online, the gameplay itself doesn't have any problem so who cares, and I bought the PS3 version and alot of people I know also bought it on PS3 I think 20 people I know, and every time I go to retailers I see people buying PS3 only for PES 2008, if you don't believe me, then search for UK software chart and PS3 outselling 360 2:1 in EU.HAZE-Unit

Erm no. Framerate problemsare gameplay as well, or it wouldnt be an issue.

The 360 versiondoes have slowdown problems, but to call them the same as ps3is way off as its common knowledge (exept on this dumb forum) that the ps3 version is damn near unplayable.

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

I don't get the joke that the anti-Sony fanboys are talking about. Cows are not supposed to call developers lazy because they can't get a game to run properly on the PS3? Their logic is because Konami also publishes MGS4 (although different developers).

Uhmm...last I checked, the developers for MGS4 have had nothing but praise for the PS3 hardware and the game seemingly runs smooth. Even going so far as to disobey Konami's request to port the game to 360.

Yet Sony haters would have us ignore the positive devs, and only listen to the developers that make a game that runs poorly?

Seems like the joke is on the haters. Especially since they don't know the difference between developers and publishers, and don't seem to realize that devs making a big game run smoothly trumps a dev that can't...especially when it comes to hardware capabilities. It's like only listening to somewhat that says a certain car doesn't go a certain speed...while ignoring the people who are actually displaying with evidence that their car can and DOES go that fast.

tango90101

all the "praise" for the ps3 is for unreleased games..

meanwhile in the present, released games PROVE the ps3's power is all on paper...

i know, "just wait"...:roll:

kojima will make everything okay....

Dude thats a whole other team from konami working on that title compared to kojima and his crew working on MGS4. That is a big difference. Besides that konami's top game that there really focusing on is making MGS4 a big hit. What people dont understand is of course u are going to find framerate problems especially in multiplatform games, because these guys have a date to get these games ready and plus yes the ps3 is still a complex machine that third party devs are still trying to get use to. Most of u lemmings are always pointing out the flaws of other machines and the games but dont remember that these systems are still a learning proccess especially the ps3 since it does have more features that have things that are looking forward to the future such as Bluray, Cell, while the xbox 360 is just a cheap console that brings out great graphics and all but hardware is a joke and an unreliable system that has problems which is why MS extended the warranty, because they know the system has problems. I say in 2008 everything will start running smoother for the ps3 because by then alot of there killer appz will be coming out and the ps3 will sell like hot cakes because of known titles and then third party devs will have no choice but to get in there and really take advantage of what the ps3 has to offer.

Wow, you sound like a broken record. No matter what the subject of a thread, your post always contain something about COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted (lol, the game isn't even out yet). This thread is about PES and yet you somehow managed to mention COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted...you don't even make sense.

COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted.

COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted.

COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted.

There, are you in ecstasy now?

Funny how you never talk about Lair, Motorstorm, Folklore...PES (lol)...etc, etc.

Pimpshigity21

You have a hard time keeping up with things here, don't you?

I have broght up the same beautiful multiplats when i encounter the same ignorant discussion. You're all trying to prove that PS3 can't do what 360 does. That PS3 multiplats are always inferior. And all I have to do is disporve that by showing you a multiplat that looks amazing on PS3. Or just great looking PS3 games in general.

You notice how you don't have a real comeback. That all I see above is a personal attack instead of facing the facts.

Your arguments are weak and fanboyness at its worst.

You are the one who missed the point of this thread. If those games he and you mentioned can look great on the PS3, why can't PES? Pleas explain that to me.

OXIIIIXO

he can't and he won't. There are holes all up in his arguments.

Get the man some Windex! His gogles are dirty.

Inferior is better.nevi

great, this means ps3 has the best multi plats

[QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"]

You are the one who missed the point of this thread. If those games he and you mentioned can look great on the PS3, why can't PES? Pleas explain that to me.

The_Crucible

he can't and he won't. There are holes all up in his arguments.

Get the man some Windex! His gogles are dirty.

I'll explain it for him.

The PS3 is the modern day Sega Saturn. A machine that is theoretically superior on paper but is so hard to program for that very few devs will actually show results. This is why MGS does what PES 2008 doesn't.

"lazy dev" is just a catch phrase being used by fanboys to belittle developers that are having problems with the PS3 hardware.

According to the Cows, 99% of the devs are lazy. Only the selective few like Kojima are not lazy.Xeratule

[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/10/25/pes-2008-features-serious-lag-on-ps3/

Now the PS3 version of Pro Evolution is having problems (broken online and poor framerates)

The programmers at Konami are lazy devs, right?

Boy, I'm glad I own a 360. This is going to be a must buy for me.

whocares4peace

No, Kojima is making MGS4. Konami is only publishing it. :roll:

[QUOTE="Xeratule"]According to the Cows, 99% of the devs are lazy. Only the selective few like Kojima are not lazy.Bazfrag

indeed.

time and resources being the key.

these devs are not lazy, they simply have DEADLINES...and the PS3 does not help them meet those deadlines at the speed or efficiency the 360 does. So for games that don't have the ability to be delayed until it's perfect, the 360 will make it look better.

[QUOTE="Bazfrag"][QUOTE="Xeratule"]According to the Cows, 99% of the devs are lazy. Only the selective few like Kojima are not lazy.Dreams-Visions

indeed.

time and resources being the key.

these devs are not lazy, they simply have DEADLINES...and the PS3 does not help them meet those deadlines at the speed or efficiency the 360 does. So for games that don't have the ability to be delayed until it's perfect, the 360 will make it look better.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="Bazfrag"][QUOTE="Xeratule"]According to the Cows, 99% of the devs are lazy. Only the selective few like Kojima are not lazy.Bazfrag

indeed.

time and resources being the key.

these devs are not lazy, they simply have DEADLINES...and the PS3 does not help them meet those deadlines at the speed or efficiency the 360 does. So for games that don't have the ability to be delayed until it's perfect, the 360 will make it look better.

[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"][QUOTE="The_Crucible"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"][QUOTE="whocares4peace"][QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/10/25/pes-2008-features-serious-lag-on-ps3/

Now the PS3 version of Pro Evolution is having problems (broken online and poor framerates)

The programmers at Konami are lazy devs, right?

Boy, I'm glad I own a 360. This is going to be a must buy for me.

OXIIIIXO

Yeah, they are caught between a rock and a hard place with this one.

What a dilemma. How will they defend the PS3 now?

This should be interesting...

Here's how: CoD4, Assassin's Creed, R&C, Uncharted, etc., etc. There are some abosolutely beautiful, smooth, and great games for PS3. The more you ignore that the less credit you have.

I don't deny 360 has some great games. Why is it that you're so skewed that all you can do is find those multiplats that are PORTED to the PS3. Any games made on PS3 and ported to the 360 will also be a lesser game.

This thread and the link it contains does not say anything about the PS3's abilities. With the games listed above, and all others yet to come in 2008, there's no way you can believe this crap.

Wow, you sound like a broken record. No matter what the subject of a thread, your post always contain something about COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted (lol, the game isn't even out yet). This thread is about PES and yet you somehow managed to mention COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted...you don't even make sense.

COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted.

COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted.

COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted.

There, are you in ecstasy now?

Funny how you never talk about Lair, Motorstorm, Folklore...PES (lol)...etc, etc.

You are the one who missed the point of this thread. If those games he and you mentioned can look great on the PS3, why can't PES? Pleas explain that to me.

Well, many developers have tried to explain things, but Sony fans dismiss their claims with accusations of laziness and bias.:roll:

360 has the same problems that is in PS3, HAZE-Unit

Really?

http://www.pro-g.co.uk/ps3/pes7/review.html

He said cows can't use the lazy dev comment because it is a Konami game...implying the PS3 hardware just sucks.ZIMdoom

Nice try. By saying cows cant use the "lazy dev" motto it begs to see if any cow would actually say that Konami is a lazy dev. Being as though cows most anticipated game of MGS4 is upcoming and made by no other than... Konami. Furthermore, I didnt take that he was saying that the PS3 harware sucks, just that fanboys, cows and Sony PR put the PS3 on a pedestal is not meeting... :shock:

[QUOTE="Pimpshigity21"]

Wow, you sound like a broken record. No matter what the subject of a thread, your post always contain something about COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted (lol, the game isn't even out yet). This thread is about PES and yet you somehow managed to mention COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted...you don't even make sense.

COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted.

COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted.

COD4, AC, R&C and Uncharted.

There, are you in ecstasy now?

Funny how you never talk about Lair, Motorstorm, Folklore...PES (lol)...etc, etc.

The_Crucible

You have a hard time keeping up with things here, don't you?

I have broght up the same beautiful multiplats when i encounter the same ignorant discussion. You're all trying to prove that PS3 can't do what 360 does. That PS3 multiplats are always inferior. And all I have to do is disporve that by showing you a multiplat that looks amazing on PS3. Or just great looking PS3 games in general.

You notice how you don't have a real comeback. That all I see above is a personal attack instead of facing the facts.

Your arguments are weak and fanboyness at its worst.

Firstly, let me congratulate you for creating a post without actually writing COD4, AC, R&C or Uncharted. I'm proud of you.

You're all trying to prove that PS3 can't do what 360 does.The_Crucible

No, I'm trying to prove that the 360 is a better machine that costs a lot less money. The PS3, at best, can barely keep up with the 360.

You're all trying to prove that PS3 can't do what 360 does. That PS3 multiplats are always inferior. The_Crucible

Well, 95% of the PS3 multiplats ARE inferior. This is not an opinion, it is a FACT. You can give excuses as to why this is so, but you can't deny that 360 cross-platform titles look and score better. Just look at PES...how disappointing it must be if you wanted to play this game on your brand new shinny (or dusty...if you already own a PS3) machine.

And all I have to do is disporve that by showing you a multiplat that looks amazing on PS3. Or just great looking PS3 games in general. The_Crucible

LOL...COD4, AC, and Uncharted are not even out yet. You disproved nothing. Let's wait until the reviews are out, shall we? Non PSE owners could do the same thing, you know...proving how great the 360 (or the Wii or PC) is by using games that are not out or touting features that have not been released or even planned yet.

R&C is the best the PS3 can do and it is nothing out of this world. I've seen the game in action: It looks great, but it is definitely not the 4D experience Sony promissed you. A game that can get a score of 7.5 from one of the best gaming sites around...well, you gotta wonder how good it really is.