Any 360 fans worried that PS3's "Home" concept will make the PS3 bette

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

In terms of functionality, what does Home really bring to the table that XBL doesn't already have?

The ability to share media with friends from your "apartment". That and 3D interface are the only major thing I can think of.

Otherwise, feature for feature, XBL still has more going for it than PSN.

shungokustasu

You don't know all the features that Home has, yet you say XBL still has more going for it. Think about that real hard. "I like Texas more than Kansas, but I never been to Kansas..."

It should go without saying that this is based on what we currently know about Home. I'm also assuming that any noteworthy features would have been demo'd or bullet-pointed during the Home presentation or in any subsequent interviews or press releases.

Well, if you really follow what was presented about Home you'll know it's pretty much XBL with a highly social envioronment. Will I say it's better? No, I haven't tried it. This goes without saying you can't say XBL is something more when you haven't tried also. Agree?

Yes, of course.  But that doesn't stop anyone from having an opinion about things.  Halo 3, for instance.

We can at least have a somewhat educated opinion with a caveat that the opinion is not based on hands-on experience with that product, but based on the currently available information.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

XBL is designed to get you connected to a unified friend list in any game, at any time, easily.

That is not what Home and PSN are going for. Home especially. Home is a virtual world designed to make for social interacting and digital lives.

Those are not the same thing. If yu think they are, you are the one who has not been following Home and what it is about.

shungokustasu

unified frend list is on PSN now...I fail to see how's that different than XBL unified list.

They still don't work the same. And that is not what Home is going to fix. Home is not a game, its not a PSN gameplay feature. It is a digital world that users can use to mingle, meet people, customize their "apartment", see concerts, and play little mini games in a lounge, while the possibility of larger content (movies, etc) is there.

Its not a game, and its not competition to XBL. They are different systems trying to do different things.

You do know you'll be able to invite friends to games in Home, right? 

who knows. it's not here yet...

If ps3 implements ingame chat functions and central friendlist it will already be on par with xbox live features but better cause its free. Remember xbox live makes you pay to host your own games. That's easy (and ps2 already had that) but now they give us dedicated servers on some games so no dependance on a hosts connection (R6, Geow anyone?). And HOME will just be the final nail in the coffin of paying for online gaming (or atleast I hope MS sees it like that). They stick 90% of our cash into their pockets and we all fall for it.

If you ask people what makes live so good they can only bring up the interface cause the actual gaming can be found better on ps3 and pc. And that's what in the end its all about. Infact the ps2 was already on par with the actual gaming part compared to xbox.

If ps3 implements ingame chat functions and central friendlist it will already be on par with xbox live features but better cause its free. Remember xbox live makes you pay to host your own games. That's easy (and ps2 already had that) but now they give us dedicated servers on some games so no dependance on a hosts connection (R6, Geow anyone?). And HOME will just be the final nail in the coffin of paying for online gaming (or atleast I hope MS sees it like that). They stick 90% of our cash into their pockets and we all fall for it.

If you ask people what makes live so good they can only bring up the interface cause the actual gaming can be found better on ps3 and pc. And that's what in the end its all about. Infact the ps2 was already on par with the actual gaming part compared to xbox.

elcoholic

Elcoholic you'r right!!

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

XBL is designed to get you connected to a unified friend list in any game, at any time, easily.

That is not what Home and PSN are going for. Home especially. Home is a virtual world designed to make for social interacting and digital lives.

Those are not the same thing. If yu think they are, you are the one who has not been following Home and what it is about.

shungokustasu

unified frend list is on PSN now...I fail to see how's that different than XBL unified list.

They still don't work the same. And that is not what Home is going to fix. Home is not a game, its not a PSN gameplay feature. It is a digital world that users can use to mingle, meet people, customize their "apartment", see concerts, and play little mini games in a lounge, while the possibility of larger content (movies, etc) is there.

Its not a game, and its not competition to XBL. They are different systems trying to do different things.

You do know you'll be able to invite friends to games in Home, right?

You really aren't all there are you? Home has nothing to do with XBL. PSN and XBL you can compare, Home is not a unified online gaming feature, it does not have a friend's list, it does not have a marketplace, it does not have a way to message your friends. Those are features of PSN and XBL NOT HOME. Do you understand that? 

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

XBL is designed to get you connected to a unified friend list in any game, at any time, easily.

That is not what Home and PSN are going for. Home especially. Home is a virtual world designed to make for social interacting and digital lives.

Those are not the same thing. If yu think they are, you are the one who has not been following Home and what it is about.

shungokustasu

unified frend list is on PSN now...I fail to see how's that different than XBL unified list. 

gamers can change their "gamertag" in PSN at a moments notice, correct?

how unified can it be with dynamic gamertags to the point where you lose track of your friends?

[QUOTE="elcoholic"]

If ps3 implements ingame chat functions and central friendlist it will already be on par with xbox live features but better cause its free. Remember xbox live makes you pay to host your own games. That's easy (and ps2 already had that) but now they give us dedicated servers on some games so no dependance on a hosts connection (R6, Geow anyone?). And HOME will just be the final nail in the coffin of paying for online gaming (or atleast I hope MS sees it like that). They stick 90% of our cash into their pockets and we all fall for it.

If you ask people what makes live so good they can only bring up the interface cause the actual gaming can be found better on ps3 and pc. And that's what in the end its all about. Infact the ps2 was already on par with the actual gaming part compared to xbox.

Nene33

Elcoholic you'r right!!

Tell that to MS fanboys ;) 

If ps3 implements ingame chat functions and central friendlist it will already be on par with xbox live features but better cause its free. Remember xbox live makes you pay to host your own games. That's easy (and ps2 already had that) but now they give us dedicated servers on some games so no dependance on a hosts connection (R6, Geow anyone?). And HOME will just be the final nail in the coffin of paying for online gaming (or atleast I hope MS sees it like that). They stick 90% of our cash into their pockets and we all fall for it.

If you ask people what makes live so good they can only bring up the interface cause the actual gaming can be found better on ps3 and pc. And that's what in the end its all about. Infact the ps2 was already on par with the actual gaming part compared to xbox.

elcoholic

i don't think you've ever played on 'live if you truly believe what you wrote..

but nice try...;)

You really aren't all there are you? Home has nothing to do with XBL. PSN and XBL you can compare, Home is not a unified online gaming feature, it does not have a friend's list, it does not have a marketplace, it does not have a way to message your friends. Those are features of PSN and XBL NOT HOME. Do you understand that?

spinecaton

Home has a friend list. It's the same friend list under your PSN ID. You can enter the marketplace from the virtual PSP in home. You can message your friends from the virtual PSP that has the PSN ID friend list. Any more queries about Home?

[QUOTE="elcoholic"]

If ps3 implements ingame chat functions and central friendlist it will already be on par with xbox live features but better cause its free. Remember xbox live makes you pay to host your own games. That's easy (and ps2 already had that) but now they give us dedicated servers on some games so no dependance on a hosts connection (R6, Geow anyone?). And HOME will just be the final nail in the coffin of paying for online gaming (or atleast I hope MS sees it like that). They stick 90% of our cash into their pockets and we all fall for it.

If you ask people what makes live so good they can only bring up the interface cause the actual gaming can be found better on ps3 and pc. And that's what in the end its all about. Infact the ps2 was already on par with the actual gaming part compared to xbox.

tango90101

i don't think you've ever played on 'live if you truly believe what you wrote..

but nice try...;)

Pff, please . I was there from the start. I numbed my thumbes from playing PGR2 and had alot of fun with GRAW, first 2 weeks of GeoW (before it became the shotgun fest) and R6. Now that I have aps3 and see what they can do for free I feel even more screwed than before for paying $50 a year.

I believe you've never played on ps2 online tough. Same p2p concept and it worked. Just a real hassle to set up and get into a game but once you're there it was just as good. And I'm sure you haven't played resistance or you'd know it beats anything live has set up when you're playing.

Anyway, break down my post instead of such a broad but unbased statement. Are you saying p2p is better than dedicated servers? 

[QUOTE="spinecaton"]

You really aren't all there are you? Home has nothing to do with XBL. PSN and XBL you can compare, Home is not a unified online gaming feature, it does not have a friend's list, it does not have a marketplace, it does not have a way to message your friends. Those are features of PSN and XBL NOT HOME. Do you understand that?

shungokustasu

Home has a friend list. It's the same friend list under your PSN ID. You can enter the marketplace from the virtual PSP in home. You can message your friends from the virtual PSP that has the PSN ID friend list. Any more queries about Home?

Those are functions of PSN that your access through Home, not actually features of Home. 

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="spinecaton"]

You really aren't all there are you? Home has nothing to do with XBL. PSN and XBL you can compare, Home is not a unified online gaming feature, it does not have a friend's list, it does not have a marketplace, it does not have a way to message your friends. Those are features of PSN and XBL NOT HOME. Do you understand that?

spinecaton

Home has a friend list. It's the same friend list under your PSN ID. You can enter the marketplace from the virtual PSP in home. You can message your friends from the virtual PSP that has the PSN ID friend list. Any more queries about Home?

Those are functions of PSN that your access through Home, not actually features of Home.

lol...stop right there. We won't carry on this conversation further. it will only get ugly. 

[QUOTE="spinecaton"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="spinecaton"]

You really aren't all there are you? Home has nothing to do with XBL. PSN and XBL you can compare, Home is not a unified online gaming feature, it does not have a friend's list, it does not have a marketplace, it does not have a way to message your friends. Those are features of PSN and XBL NOT HOME. Do you understand that?

shungokustasu

Home has a friend list. It's the same friend list under your PSN ID. You can enter the marketplace from the virtual PSP in home. You can message your friends from the virtual PSP that has the PSN ID friend list. Any more queries about Home?

Those are functions of PSN that your access through Home, not actually features of Home.

lol...stop right there. We won't carry on this conversation further. it will only get ugly.

You are right because you obviously don't know the difference between PSN and Home 

What amazes me is that PS3 fans who constantly insist "ZOMG TEH WII IS A GIMMICK! PEOPLE WILL LOSE INTEREST!!!" insist that Home is the best thing ever, not a gimmick, and people will always love it.AfterShafter

show me one fanboy like that? 

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"]What amazes me is that PS3 fans who constantly insist "ZOMG TEH WII IS A GIMMICK! PEOPLE WILL LOSE INTEREST!!!" insist that Home is the best thing ever, not a gimmick, and people will always love it.shungokustasu

show me one fanboy like that?

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25338663

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25539994

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=24974615 

I could keep going but i'm tired and its 3am 

If ps3 implements ingame chat functions and central friendlist it will already be on par with xbox live features but better cause its free. Remember xbox live makes you pay to host your own games. That's easy (and ps2 already had that) but now they give us dedicated servers on some games so no dependance on a hosts connection (R6, Geow anyone?). And HOME will just be the final nail in the coffin of paying for online gaming (or atleast I hope MS sees it like that). They stick 90% of our cash into their pockets and we all fall for it.

If you ask people what makes live so good they can only bring up the interface cause the actual gaming can be found better on ps3 and pc. And that's what in the end its all about. Infact the ps2 was already on par with the actual gaming part compared to xbox.

elcoholic

Nope.  They're definitely NOT the same.  This seems to be a common misconception.

Is the cross game invite on PSN more than just a text message?  Or does it bring you directly into your friend's game session no matter what game both of you are playing?

I don't think PSN has a multitiered system that helps the community self-govern.  Using gamerzone, rep, avoid/prefer status and feedback, I haven't run across many jerks online at all.

Nor is PSN a closed, secure network.  They never stated how closely they're watching for and banning modded PS3's. 

Then what about the community events?  Tournaments?  Community Developer, MVP and Ambassador programs?  Not to mention community leaders like Major Nelson or Trixie?

There's alot there that people take for granted. 

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"]What amazes me is that PS3 fans who constantly insist "ZOMG TEH WII IS A GIMMICK! PEOPLE WILL LOSE INTEREST!!!" insist that Home is the best thing ever, not a gimmick, and people will always love it.Zenkuso

show me one fanboy like that?

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25338663

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25539994

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=24974615

I could keep going but i'm tired and its 3am

Now, show me a post where they said PS Homeis the best thing ever. 

If ps3 implements ingame chat functions and central friendlist it will already be on par with xbox live features but better cause its free. Remember xbox live makes you pay to host your own games. That's easy (and ps2 already had that) but now they give us dedicated servers on some games so no dependance on a hosts connection (R6, Geow anyone?). And HOME will just be the final nail in the coffin of paying for online gaming (or atleast I hope MS sees it like that). They stick 90% of our cash into their pockets and we all fall for it.

If you ask people what makes live so good they can only bring up the interface cause the actual gaming can be found better on ps3 and pc. And that's what in the end its all about. Infact the ps2 was already on par with the actual gaming part compared to xbox.

elcoholic

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="elcoholic"]

If ps3 implements ingame chat functions and central friendlist it will already be on par with xbox live features but better cause its free. Remember xbox live makes you pay to host your own games. That's easy (and ps2 already had that) but now they give us dedicated servers on some games so no dependance on a hosts connection (R6, Geow anyone?). And HOME will just be the final nail in the coffin of paying for online gaming (or atleast I hope MS sees it like that). They stick 90% of our cash into their pockets and we all fall for it.

If you ask people what makes live so good they can only bring up the interface cause the actual gaming can be found better on ps3 and pc. And that's what in the end its all about. Infact the ps2 was already on par with the actual gaming part compared to xbox.

elcoholic

i don't think you've ever played on 'live if you truly believe what you wrote..

but nice try...;)

Pff, please . I was there from the start. I numbed my thumbes from playing PGR2 and had alot of fun with GRAW, first 2 weeks of GeoW (before it became the shotgun fest) and R6. Now that I have aps3 and see what they can do for free I feel even more screwed than before for paying $50 a year.

I believe you've never played on ps2 online tough. Same p2p concept and it worked. Just a real hassle to set up and get into a game but once you're there it was just as good. And I'm sure you haven't played resistance or you'd know it beats anything live has set up when you're playing.

Anyway, break down my post instead of such a broad but unbased statement. Are you saying p2p is better than dedicated servers? 

what i'm saying is PSN lacks what xbox live has....

ie; standard voicecom..   it's funny you balk at paying $50 for a year of xbox live while willing to buy a seperate voicecom that SHOULD be standard in a $600 console...;) 

i played socom last gen on the ps2's online... with the cheaters and "wall walkers" it was hugely disappointing...

to say it's "just as good" as xbox live is about the silliest thing i've read in a while...

[QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"]What amazes me is that PS3 fans who constantly insist "ZOMG TEH WII IS A GIMMICK! PEOPLE WILL LOSE INTEREST!!!" insist that Home is the best thing ever, not a gimmick, and people will always love it.shungokustasu

show me one fanboy like that?

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25338663

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25539994

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=24974615

I could keep going but i'm tired and its 3am

Now, show me a post where they said PS Homeis the best thing ever. 

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25602547&page=0

cant wait for home to come out it will revolutionize online gaming

BTW trying to change an argument is the 1st sign you are losing it.

Let me enlighten you on what XBL really does.

Universal Friends List

Custom Gamer Pic/Personal Pic

Video Chat/Video Messaging

Voice Chat/Voice Messaging

Gamer Score

Achivements

Demos

XBLA

HD Movies

HD TV

Downloadable Video Game Guides

Music Videos

Movie Trailers

Sent Friend Request & Message through Xbox.com

True Skill Matchmaking

Cross-Platforming

Live Everywhere

IPTV (This Winter)

Major Dashboard Updates twice a year

Voice in Everygame

Talk to your friends while watching a Movie or TV

Download Games while playing a Game

XNA

Gamer Card (put in on your website, myspace, blog)

Live for Vista

XBL for Mobile phones (customemize stuff through your mobile phone)

Next-Gen Tournaments

Game and Fame

Downloadable Gamerpics & Themes

Exclusive Video Coverage from E3, X06, & TGS

Let me enlighten you on what XBL really does.

Universal Friends List

Custom Gamer Pic/Personal Pic

Video Chat/Video Messaging

Voice Chat/Voice Messaging

Gamer Score

Achivements

Demos

XBLA

HD Movies

HD TV

Downloadable Video Game Guides

Music Videos

Movie Trailers

Sent Friend Request & Message through Xbox.com

True Skill Matchmaking

Cross-Platforming

Live Everywhere

IPTV (This Winter)

Major Dashboard Updates twice a year

Voice in Everygame

Talk to your friends while watching a Movie or TV

Download Games while playing a Game

XNA

Gamer Card (put in on your website, myspace, blog)

Live for Vista

XBL for Mobile phones (customemize stuff through your mobile phone)

Next-Gen Tournaments

Game and Fame

Downloadable Gamerpics & Themes

Exclusive Video Coverage from E3, X06, & TGS

 

DXGreat1_HGL

good post. 

all the cows need to do it provide a similar list...

*grabs popcorn...*

[QUOTE="Drukter"]No, I dont think Home makes GAMES any better at all. ;)shungokustasu

Exactly what I said about XBL.

Competition and Co-operation with ease doesn't make games better :? 

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"]What amazes me is that PS3 fans who constantly insist "ZOMG TEH WII IS A GIMMICK! PEOPLE WILL LOSE INTEREST!!!" insist that Home is the best thing ever, not a gimmick, and people will always love it.DXGreat1_HGL

show me one fanboy like that?

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25338663

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25539994

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=24974615

I could keep going but i'm tired and its 3am

Now, show me a post where they said PS Homeis the best thing ever.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25602547&page=0

cant wait for home to come out it will revolutionize online gaming

BTW trying to change an argument is the 1st sign you are losing it.

Actually was proving a point. He takes one post and think every person as the same collective opinion. Like in your link, no one from he's link say both those things. BTW, you the worst of the worst when it comes to calling people names and generalizing. There is a deeper problem with your personal life that is effecting you, not "the herd".  

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="Drukter"]No, I dont think Home makes GAMES any better at all. ;)waynehead895

Exactly what I said about XBL.

Competition and Co-operation with ease doesn't make games better :?

It was more of a mocking, then really beliving that. 

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"]

[QUOTE="AfterShafter"]What amazes me is that PS3 fans who constantly insist "ZOMG TEH WII IS A GIMMICK! PEOPLE WILL LOSE INTEREST!!!" insist that Home is the best thing ever, not a gimmick, and people will always love it.shungokustasu

show me one fanboy like that?

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25338663

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25539994

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=24974615

I could keep going but i'm tired and its 3am

Now, show me a post where they said PS Homeis the best thing ever.

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25602547&page=0

cant wait for home to come out it will revolutionize online gaming

BTW trying to change an argument is the 1st sign you are losing it.

Actually was proving a point. He takes one post and think every person as the same collective opinion. Like in your link, no one from he's link say both those things. BTW, you the worst of the worst when it comes to calling people names and generalizing. There is a deeper problem with your personal life that is effecting you, not "the herd".  

 Crying again after losing, you have bigger problems then I could ever have. Sorry if you can't cope with loss, really I am, seriously I am.

I don't think it will make the PS3 better. Home is interesting but it's not a game. People plunk down $300-$600 for a game machine.

That being said, I think it is a very interesting project and I'd like to see how it pans out. Certainly would provide a nice little diversion for the occasional periods that I am tired of my games.

[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]

Let me enlighten you on what XBL really does.

Universal Friends List

Custom Gamer Pic/Personal Pic

Video Chat/Video Messaging

Voice Chat/Voice Messaging

Gamer Score

Achivements

Demos

XBLA

HD Movies

HD TV

Downloadable Video Game Guides

Music Videos

Movie Trailers

Sent Friend Request & Message through Xbox.com

True Skill Matchmaking

Cross-Platforming

Live Everywhere

IPTV (This Winter)

Major Dashboard Updates twice a year

Voice in Everygame

Talk to your friends while watching a Movie or TV

Download Games while playing a Game

XNA

Gamer Card (put in on your website, myspace, blog)

Live for Vista

XBL for Mobile phones (customemize stuff through your mobile phone)

Next-Gen Tournaments

Game and Fame

Downloadable Gamerpics & Themes

Exclusive Video Coverage from E3, X06, & TGS

 

tango90101

good post. 

all the cows need to do it provide a similar list...

*grabs popcorn...*

How about this.  Xbox fanboys enjoy your live service and PS3 fanboys enjoy Home.  I think we'll both have a good time meeting people and playing games whether it's through blades or a 3d virtual world. 

How about this. Xbox fanboys enjoy your live service and PS3 fanboys enjoy Home. I think we'll both have a good time meeting people and playing games whether it's through blades or a 3d virtual world.

mercclass

Nicely summed up. There's more than one way to do things. Looks like both companies have winners on their hands. 

pshome is not the second comming of jesus.

most people wont bother  

pshome is not the second comming of jesus.

most people wont bother

oback

Why? It's free. I'd check out something that's both interesting and free. 

[QUOTE="oback"]

pshome is not the second comming of jesus.

most people wont bother

TerryBenedict

Why? It's free. I'd check out something that's both interesting and free.

somewhat free, you have to pay for the items you put in it. other than trophys. but then again you can view everyones achievments on xbox live too. so unless if you are paying for items there is no need for it. 

[QUOTE="TerryBenedict"][QUOTE="oback"]

pshome is not the second comming of jesus.

most people wont bother

DoctorBunny

Why? It's free. I'd check out something that's both interesting and free.

somewhat free, you have to pay for the items you put in it. other than trophys. but then again you can view everyones achievments on xbox live too. so unless if you are paying for items there is no need for it.

Errr no. You have to pay for some items. (Luxury items) And that's optional. No one said you have to pay for those items to participate in the interactive experience that is Home.

Walking around and interacting with people is free. Nice try.

[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="elcoholic"]

If ps3 implements ingame chat functions and central friendlist it will already be on par with xbox live features but better cause its free. Remember xbox live makes you pay to host your own games. That's easy (and ps2 already had that) but now they give us dedicated servers on some games so no dependance on a hosts connection (R6, Geow anyone?). And HOME will just be the final nail in the coffin of paying for online gaming (or atleast I hope MS sees it like that). They stick 90% of our cash into their pockets and we all fall for it.

If you ask people what makes live so good they can only bring up the interface cause the actual gaming can be found better on ps3 and pc. And that's what in the end its all about. Infact the ps2 was already on par with the actual gaming part compared to xbox.

elcoholic

i don't think you've ever played on 'live if you truly believe what you wrote..

but nice try...;)

Pff, please . I was there from the start. I numbed my thumbes from playing PGR2 and had alot of fun with GRAW, first 2 weeks of GeoW (before it became the shotgun fest) and R6. Now that I have aps3 and see what they can do for free I feel even more screwed than before for paying $50 a year.

I believe you've never played on ps2 online tough. Same p2p concept and it worked. Just a real hassle to set up and get into a game but once you're there it was just as good. And I'm sure you haven't played resistance or you'd know it beats anything live has set up when you're playing.

Anyway, break down my post instead of such a broad but unbased statement. Are you saying p2p is better than dedicated servers?

 Ps2 about being in the same par with xbox online capability, so-so. I had lag issues with some games, but that fault can go anyway depending on what game you played. It was a pain in the butt to play games with friends cause you had to use other methods to communicate(and i dont mean communication during gameplay if they want to play, what games, etc). It wasnt that bad if you knew them from real life but i had harder time with ppl that i meet online. I dont remember how socom games did it but i remember not being as annoying as some other games and RE:outbreak they had chat rooms and it was easy to wait/meet ppl there.

I havent really tried the communication systems on the ps3 yet. so i cant say anything about it. From what i hear there are still needs work on it. Only thing i have done on my ps3 that is online function are downloading some games and checking out the web browser(heh was a pain the butt to use without a keyboard)

 Cant compare home system with anything on the 360 since 360 doesnt have that, Honestly i dont care bout the home system and it doesnt appeal to me. i rather spend whatever time i have on games rather than trying to socialize in a sim type of world. Of course there are going to be people who will enjoy the home concept. Its good sony is trying to do new and different approach on networking.

walking around a VERY limited sace. you cant walk outside to other peoples houses and such or view thier homes when they are offline. 

so now walking in a small room is going to make it amazing? Sorry but I already use voice chat with every person on my list for 360, not a single person i play with on my ps3 has one. its nothing special at all 

I'm a huge 360 fan and think the PS3 is crap, but now I'm worried that this "Home" system (that sort of home page for the PS3 where you have a character that walks around and interacts with other players walking around etc.) might be incredible and might even make the PS3 better than the 360.

Any opinions?

Jason_A

...Why would someone value this second-life, conceptually terrible, idea?  A gaming console serves one function: processing data in the most efficent and effective manner possible.  Why would a sub-par "Sims" enviroment justify faith in Sony or increase the success of their vastly over-priced and terribly under-supported console?

I'm worried MS may think us 360 owners would want that crap and put something on Live like that, then again MS is pretty smart about not using dumb things like Home with their great online service.Fruity_Fantasy

In a past podcast, major nelson mentioned that MS actually did consider a Home-like interface for 360.  They eventually decided against it because access to feateures wasn't a simple button click away.  You had to walk to somewhere to do anything.  In terms of interface, it looked cool but was less efficient.