any of you bunny hopping console player like realism ?

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

you mean like GRAW, GRAW 2, and Rainbow Six Vegas.. oh wait, i thought it could only be done on the pc.. guess you haven't used a console in a while.JohnGerstmann

these games aren't realistic enough, I mean games where you makes kills from over 200 Yards away

you mean like GRAW, GRAW 2, and Rainbow Six Vegas.. oh wait, i thought it could only be done on the pc.. guess you haven't used a console in a while.JohnGerstmann

the funniest thing is that you think GRAW, GRAW2, and Vegas are realistic in any way. the pc versions of GRAW trump the console ones when it comes to that matter and Vegas just threw it out the window. they ruined Ghost Recon and Rainbow 6 when they put the games on consoles.

OP another good BF2 mod is Project Realism, just recently got in to it and i love it

[QUOTE="JohnGerstmann"]you mean like GRAW, GRAW 2, and Rainbow Six Vegas.. oh wait, i thought it could only be done on the pc.. guess you haven't used a console in a while.ohioyankee

the funniest thing is that you think GRAW, GRAW2, and Vegas are realistic in any way. the pc versions of GRAW trump the console ones when it comes to that matter and Vegas just threw it out the window. they ruined Ghost Recon and Rainbow 6 when they put the games on consoles.

OP another good BF2 mod is Project Realism, just recently got in to it and i love it

nice, will try it out

if you want WW2 realism , try the Forgotten Hope 2 mod, it's nice

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

whoody12

you know, a realistic shooter is one where you reload your weapon, and the remaining ammo in your magazine doesn't jsut magically accumulate up into your total ammo count. I have yet to see a shooter which takes realism that far. Hence, no game is realistic enough for me yet. Your standard of realism is but a fraction of mine.

[QUOTE="whoody12"]

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

jhcho2

you know, a realistic shooter is one where you reload your weapon, and the remaining ammo in your magazine doesn't jsut magically accumulate up into your total ammo count. I have yet to see a shooter which takes realism that far. Hence, no game is realistic enough for me yet. Your standard of realism is but a fraction of mine. Insurgency mod is another great mod to try out, you need HL2 and/or one of the mp games for it (hl2mp, css, etc) and the source sdk base

SWAT 4 and the other games in the SWAT series do that. as does R6: Black Arrow i believe, although i've never played it. only heard second hand accounts

[QUOTE="whoody12"]

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

jhcho2

you know, a realistic shooter is one where you reload your weapon, and the remaining ammo in your magazine doesn't jsut magically accumulate up into your total ammo count. I have yet to see a shooter which takes realism that far. Hence, no game is realistic enough for me yet. Your standard of realism is but a fraction of mine.

I don't exactly know what you mean but Red Orchestra takes reloading kinda realistic

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

whoody12

There is a reason why none of those games are popular. Joint Operations and the BF mod probably averages around 0 players.

[QUOTE="whoody12"]

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

Deihmos

There is a reason why none of those games are popular. Joint Operations and the BF mod probably averages around 0 players.

dude your so wrong, I dont know about Joint ops( about 5000 online I think)

and ForgottenHope has 2567 online, which is not bad for a beginning mod

you need to know that gaming goes further then America or Halo

and ArmA is very populair in Europe

PC gamers are understandably bitter over their diminishing market but I really am getting tired of the tears masked as pride and superiority.L1qu1dSword

Iam not saying PC superior Imo :?, I am just asking if Console players like Realistic games, since most of their games are not aiming for realism

you shouldn't jump to conclusions so quick

you mean like GRAW, GRAW 2, and Rainbow Six Vegas.. oh wait, i thought it could only be done on the pc.. guess you haven't used a console in a while.JohnGerstmann

ROFL

[QUOTE="jhcho2"][QUOTE="whoody12"]

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

whoody12

you know, a realistic shooter is one where you reload your weapon, and the remaining ammo in your magazine doesn't jsut magically accumulate up into your total ammo count. I have yet to see a shooter which takes realism that far. Hence, no game is realistic enough for me yet. Your standard of realism is but a fraction of mine.

I don't exactly know what you mean but Red Orchestra takes reloading kinda realistic

Rainbow 6 3 had it

[QUOTE="whoody12"][QUOTE="jhcho2"][QUOTE="whoody12"]

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

SpaceMatt

you know, a realistic shooter is one where you reload your weapon, and the remaining ammo in your magazine doesn't jsut magically accumulate up into your total ammo count. I have yet to see a shooter which takes realism that far. Hence, no game is realistic enough for me yet. Your standard of realism is but a fraction of mine.

I don't exactly know what you mean but Red Orchestra takes reloading kinda realistic

Rainbow 6 3 had it

the old R6 games had just about everything in terms of tactical realism...but its all been removed now.

[QUOTE="whoody12"]

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

jhcho2

you know, a realistic shooter is one where you reload your weapon, and the remaining ammo in your magazine doesn't jsut magically accumulate up into your total ammo count. I have yet to see a shooter which takes realism that far. Hence, no game is realistic enough for me yet. Your standard of realism is but a fraction of mine.

Uh, Battlefield 2 does that, one of the most popular multiplayer FPS ever made, so you obviously haven't played many FPS games.

[QUOTE="whoody12"]

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

jhcho2

you know, a realistic shooter is one where you reload your weapon, and the remaining ammo in your magazine doesn't jsut magically accumulate up into your total ammo count. I have yet to see a shooter which takes realism that far. Hence, no game is realistic enough for me yet. Your standard of realism is but a fraction of mine.

all of those games he listed do that....

in fact, many many games do this on the PC....

hell even BF2, a unrealistic game overall, does this.

[QUOTE="SpaceMatt"][QUOTE="whoody12"][QUOTE="jhcho2"][QUOTE="whoody12"]

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

cobrax75

you know, a realistic shooter is one where you reload your weapon, and the remaining ammo in your magazine doesn't jsut magically accumulate up into your total ammo count. I have yet to see a shooter which takes realism that far. Hence, no game is realistic enough for me yet. Your standard of realism is but a fraction of mine.

I don't exactly know what you mean but Red Orchestra takes reloading kinda realistic

Rainbow 6 3 had it

the old R6 games had just about everything in terms of tactical realism...but its all been removed now.

yeah thats why I haven't played a R6 game since the first if anyone here has played that remember the pre mission planning you had to equip you teams(multiple teams instead of just one like in most newer r6 games) and actually plan their path through the mission using a map and waypoint system there was nothing more satisfying then calling on you ai team using commands and have them flank a room as you came in the front door or vice versa or have it planned that one team would take the majority of the firfights while another team snuck in the back to rescue a hostage or plant a listening device on a phone. the new rainbow six games haveremoved that planning stage in exchange for a much more linear mission structure.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="SpaceMatt"][QUOTE="whoody12"][QUOTE="jhcho2"][QUOTE="whoody12"]

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

Citan_Uzuki

you know, a realistic shooter is one where you reload your weapon, and the remaining ammo in your magazine doesn't jsut magically accumulate up into your total ammo count. I have yet to see a shooter which takes realism that far. Hence, no game is realistic enough for me yet. Your standard of realism is but a fraction of mine.

I don't exactly know what you mean but Red Orchestra takes reloading kinda realistic

Rainbow 6 3 had it

the old R6 games had just about everything in terms of tactical realism...but its all been removed now.

yeah thats why I haven't played a R6 game since the first if anyone here has played that remember the pre mission planning you had to equip you teams(multiple teams instead of just one like in most newer r6 games) and actually plan their path through the mission using a map and waypoint system there was nothing more satisfying then calling on you ai team using commands and have them flank a room as you came in the front door or vice versa or have it planned that one team would take the majority of the firfights while another team snuck in the back to rescue a hostage or plant a listening device on a phone. the new rainbow six games haveremoved that planning stage in exchange for a much more linear mission structure.

IMO the first one was not the best....I think Raven Shield was the high point of tactical realism in a game.

[QUOTE="Citan_Uzuki"][QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="SpaceMatt"][QUOTE="whoody12"][QUOTE="jhcho2"][QUOTE="whoody12"]

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

cobrax75

you know, a realistic shooter is one where you reload your weapon, and the remaining ammo in your magazine doesn't jsut magically accumulate up into your total ammo count. I have yet to see a shooter which takes realism that far. Hence, no game is realistic enough for me yet. Your standard of realism is but a fraction of mine.

I don't exactly know what you mean but Red Orchestra takes reloading kinda realistic

Rainbow 6 3 had it

the old R6 games had just about everything in terms of tactical realism...but its all been removed now.

yeah thats why I haven't played a R6 game since the first if anyone here has played that remember the pre mission planning you had to equip you teams(multiple teams instead of just one like in most newer r6 games) and actually plan their path through the mission using a map and waypoint system there was nothing more satisfying then calling on you ai team using commands and have them flank a room as you came in the front door or vice versa or have it planned that one team would take the majority of the firfights while another team snuck in the back to rescue a hostage or plant a listening device on a phone. the new rainbow six games haveremoved that planning stage in exchange for a much more linear mission structure.

IMO the first one was not the best....I think Raven Shield was the high point of tactical realism in a game.

I never said it was the best butit was the first game to incorporate such tactical action in that way I am mostly a console gamer and I never really played many of the other rainbow 6 games except a few short plays at friends houses of the dumbed-down versions on consoles I believe it was the 3rd when they started making the pc game more console like but I could be wrong you probably have more experience with the series than me to know exactly when they started dumbing down the series.

[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="Citan_Uzuki"][QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="SpaceMatt"][QUOTE="whoody12"][QUOTE="jhcho2"][QUOTE="whoody12"]

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

Citan_Uzuki

you know, a realistic shooter is one where you reload your weapon, and the remaining ammo in your magazine doesn't jsut magically accumulate up into your total ammo count. I have yet to see a shooter which takes realism that far. Hence, no game is realistic enough for me yet. Your standard of realism is but a fraction of mine.

I don't exactly know what you mean but Red Orchestra takes reloading kinda realistic

Rainbow 6 3 had it

the old R6 games had just about everything in terms of tactical realism...but its all been removed now.

yeah thats why I haven't played a R6 game since the first if anyone here has played that remember the pre mission planning you had to equip you teams(multiple teams instead of just one like in most newer r6 games) and actually plan their path through the mission using a map and waypoint system there was nothing more satisfying then calling on you ai team using commands and have them flank a room as you came in the front door or vice versa or have it planned that one team would take the majority of the firfights while another team snuck in the back to rescue a hostage or plant a listening device on a phone. the new rainbow six games haveremoved that planning stage in exchange for a much more linear mission structure.

IMO the first one was not the best....I think Raven Shield was the high point of tactical realism in a game.

I never said it was the best butit was the first game to incorporate such tactical action in that way I am mostly a console gamer and I never really played many of the other rainbow 6 games except a few short plays at friends houses of the dumbed-down versions on consoles I believe it was the 3rd when they started making the pc game more console like but I could be wrong you probably have more experience with the series than me to know exactly when they started dumbing down the series.

#3 was raven shield which was deffinetly still very realistic...I think it was the next one (lockdown?) when the PC version lost all its realism.

you mean like GRAW, GRAW 2, and Rainbow Six Vegas.. oh wait, i thought it could only be done on the pc.. guess you haven't used a console in a while.JohnGerstmann

[QUOTE="Deihmos"][QUOTE="whoody12"]

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

whoody12

There is a reason why none of those games are popular. Joint Operations and the BF mod probably averages around 0 players.

dude your so wrong, I dont know about Joint ops( about 5000 online I think)

and ForgottenHope has 2567 online, which is not bad for a beginning mod

you need to know that gaming goes further then America or Halo

and ArmA is very populair in Europe

Arma ussually has around 500 players and 95% of them are in Germany and the UK. You just made up those numbers for the other games becuase there isn't anyone playing them.

Edit: there are actually 76 players for Forgotten Hope 2 and they are in Germany. LinkMods are not popular with Battlefield 2

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you know, a realistic shooter is one where you reload your weapon, and the remaining ammo in your magazine doesn't jsut magically accumulate up into your total ammo count. I have yet to see a shooter which takes realism that far. Hence, no game is realistic enough for me yet. Your standard of realism is but a fraction of mine.

jhcho2

Battlefield (all of them) does that, or at least 1942 and 2142 does it.

[QUOTE="whoody12"]

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

jhcho2

you know, a realistic shooter is one where you reload your weapon, and the remaining ammo in your magazine doesn't jsut magically accumulate up into your total ammo count. I have yet to see a shooter which takes realism that far. Hence, no game is realistic enough for me yet. Your standard of realism is but a fraction of mine.

Umm battlefield?

I play both PC and Consoles but i will say that Americas Army and Operation Flashpoint are two of the most realistic FPS i've ever played.

Nothing wrong with realism but when you deal with real war in our world you sometimes want something different in a game.

You could just join the military if you want realismHeil68

That argument is so cliched and dumb. Stop using it.

People just want to experience realism in a GAME. In the military in case you didn't know, when you die you don't come back.

saying it can only be done on PC is stupidity beyond call. GR2 (not GRAW) and Flash point on the xbox proove that. It is a niche though.Tasman_basic

Falshpoint on the Xbox was horrible...and GR2 wasnt very realistic.

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

whoody12

If they aren't on the consoles it's simply because they aren't fun. Are you trying to say the consoles don't have the power to process one shot kills or something?

[QUOTE="whoody12"]

not fake CoD4 realism with flashy lights etc, but real realism with things like 1 shot 1 kill and huge openended maps ( what basicly can only be done on the PC)

for example

- Joint Operations

- Forgotten Hope 2 mod for Battlefield2

- Armed Assault

Bgrngod

If they aren't on the consoles it's simply because they aren't fun. Are you trying to say the consoles don't have the power to process one shot kills or something?

he is saying that its a precision thing...realistic shooters need precision.

[QUOTE="Heil68"]You could just join the military if you want realismDarkRecruit

That argument is so cliched and dumb. Stop using it.

People just want to experience realism in a GAME. In the military in case you didn't know, when you die you don't come back.

[QUOTE="DarkRecruit"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"]You could just join the military if you want realismHeil68

That argument is so cliched and dumb. Stop using it.

People just want to experience realism in a GAME. In the military in case you didn't know, when you die you don't come back.

they arent though...and if you think so...you clearly havent played games like Operation Flashpoint, Red Orchestra, Raven shield...etc...cause those games are what realistic shooters are supposed to look like....

COD realistic? lol.