Any word on PS3 BC from Gamescom?

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#1 Blazerdt47
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So the rumors are false am i right? Or is there a BC update coming? Was it announced?

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#2 Nike_Air
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The word is NO basically , they claim to have no plans for it ..... go buy some PS3 , PSN , and PSP games in between your dreams.

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#3 sonicthemegaman
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I doubt it. Only the 60g has true BC. I found one used, you might be able to find one as well.
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#4 Nonstop-Madness
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No BC coming anytime soon.
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nope they want you to buy ps2 and ps3 slims

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#6 Nonstop-Madness
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I doubt it. Only the 60g has true BC. I found one used, you might be able to find one as well.sonicthemegaman
80GB has very good BC. I use it all the time.
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You are better off keeping your ps2 if you want to play ps2 games.

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I doubt it. Only the 60g has true BC. I found one used, you might be able to find one as well.sonicthemegaman
my 20gig has it to :P well now its a 120gig lol
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I am tired of these lame BC complaints. If you want to play PS2 games, get a PS2. If you wanna play NES games, get a NES, If you wanna play 64 games, get a 64.

The past generations had no BC and no one really cared. They just kept their old systems and played them when they felt like it. Also they got a new system to play the latest new upcoming games.

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[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]I doubt it. Only the 60g has true BC. I found one used, you might be able to find one as well.river_rat3117
my 20gig has it to :P well now its a 120gig lol

Thankfully you upgraded to a 120GB HDD. That 20GB was an insult for what the ps3 was supposed to do. You install like 4 games and it would be already filled.

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I am tired of these lame BC complaints. If you want to play PS2 games, get a PS2. If you wanna play NES games, get a NES, If you wanna play 64 games, get a 64.

The past generations had no BC and no one really cared. They just kept their old systems and played them when they felt like it. Also they got a new system to play the latest new upcoming games.

Ninten007

Wrong. The PS2 had full PS1 backwards compatibility. Obviously there couldn't have been BC on the GC because it's Nintendo's first disc format and XBOX being Microsoft's starter console. This gen however the Wii has it spot on, 100% backwards compatibility with ALL GC titles plus older gen games being made downloadable. People want it, therefore they will complain for it.

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#12 sonicthemegaman
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[QUOTE="river_rat3117"][QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]I doubt it. Only the 60g has true BC. I found one used, you might be able to find one as well.sirk1264

my 20gig has it to :P well now its a 120gig lol

Thankfully you upgraded to a 120GB HDD. That 20GB was an insult for what the ps3 was supposed to do. You install like 4 games and it would be already filled.

wow really? well its cool you can upgrade it. i think that my Ps3 fat is actually better than the upcoming slim cause of the BC. i know from experience that ps2 was the 360 of its gen. i went through 3 of those things. :P
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I am tired of these lame BC complaints. If you want to play PS2 games, get a PS2. If you wanna play NES games, get a NES, If you wanna play 64 games, get a 64.

The past generations had no BC and no one really cared. They just kept their old systems and played them when they felt like it. Also they got a new system to play the latest new upcoming games.

Ninten007

What the hell are you crazy you want hook up a gazzillion consoles to your tv be my guest.

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1. Stick 2. If it had BC, Sony would be boasting about it. 3. PS2 is still selling too good.
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[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

I am tired of these lame BC complaints. If you want to play PS2 games, get a PS2. If you wanna play NES games, get a NES, If you wanna play 64 games, get a 64.

The past generations had no BC and no one really cared. They just kept their old systems and played them when they felt like it. Also they got a new system to play the latest new upcoming games.

Crossel777

Wrong, The PS2 had full PS1 backwards compatibility. Obviously there couldn't have been BC on the GC because it's Nintendo first disc format and XBOX being Microsoft starter console. This gen however Wii has it spot on 100% backwards compatibility with ALL GC titles. People want it, there they will complain for it.

Sony's looking for it's best interest. What would be the profit of the PS2 if the PS3 had BC on it? $0.

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[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="sirk1264"]

my 20gig has it to :P well now its a 120gig lolriver_rat3117
Thankfully you upgraded to a 120GB HDD. That 20GB was an insult for what the ps3 was supposed to do. You install like 4 games and it would be already filled.

wow really? well its cool you can upgrade it. i think that my Ps3 fat is actually better than the upcoming slim cause of the BC. i know from experience that ps2 was the 360 of its gen. i went through 3 of those things. :P

yeah the ps3 hdd is nothing more than a laptop hdd, so you can pretty much put any one you want in it i think it has to be an SATA HDD or something like that i cant remember. i changed mine out right away knowing 20gigs wasnt gunna last 10 years, im not sure if 120gigs will be at the rate i buy psn games
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[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

I am tired of these lame BC complaints. If you want to play PS2 games, get a PS2. If you wanna play NES games, get a NES, If you wanna play 64 games, get a 64.

The past generations had no BC and no one really cared. They just kept their old systems and played them when they felt like it. Also they got a new system to play the latest new upcoming games.

Norule04

What the hell are you crazy you want hook up a gazzillion consoles to your tv be my guest.

Wrong. I am not lazy like most here. My older consoles are kept in their boxes. So if I feel like playing GoldenEye, I pull out the 64 and hook it up to my old analog set and play it until I am done. I feel like playing some God of War, put the 64 away, pull out the PS2 and start playing. Whats so hard about that?

The PS3 is set up nicely at HDTV set.

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#18 sonicthemegaman
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="Crossel777"][QUOTE="Ninten007"]

I am tired of these lame BC complaints. If you want to play PS2 games, get a PS2. If you wanna play NES games, get a NES, If you wanna play 64 games, get a 64.

The past generations had no BC and no one really cared. They just kept their old systems and played them when they felt like it. Also they got a new system to play the latest new upcoming games.

Wrong, The PS2 had full PS1 backwards compatibility. Obviously there couldn't have been BC on the GC because it's Nintendo first disc format and XBOX being Microsoft starter console. This gen however Wii has it spot on 100% backwards compatibility with ALL GC titles. People want it, there they will complain for it.

Sony's looking for it's best interest. What would be the profit of the PS2 if the PS3 had BC on it? $0.

*turns on new 60gig and plays Spyro 3*
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[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

I am tired of these lame BC complaints. If you want to play PS2 games, get a PS2. If you wanna play NES games, get a NES, If you wanna play 64 games, get a 64.

The past generations had no BC and no one really cared. They just kept their old systems and played them when they felt like it. Also they got a new system to play the latest new upcoming games.

Crossel777

Wrong. The PS2 had full PS1 backwards compatibility. Obviously there couldn't have been BC on the GC because it's Nintendo's first disc format and XBOX being Microsoft's starter console. This gen however the Wii has it spot on, 100% backwards compatibility with ALL GC titles plus older gen games being made downloadable. People want it, therefore they will complain for it.

I know the PS2 was the first one ot do BC.

My point is back in the day people didnt moan about the SNES having BC with the NES, and the 64 having BC with both the NES and SNES. You kept your old consoles and played them when you wanted but at the same time played the new upcoming games.

Yea the Wii has BC spot on because it is basically a Cube. The VC should not count as BC because you download them, not like you can pop in your old carts and start playing.

Complaning about BC is lame.

The 360 has limited BC so why isnt no one complaing about not being able to play 100% of all Xbox titles?

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It's incredibly disappointing that they continue to support a system (PS2) that is years old. A generation old. That's the only reason I can see that would prevent establishing BC for any present and future PS3 models.

But one part of BC confuses me. Are PS1 titles playable on any of the SKUs? Is it just the PS2 games that aren't supports on the more recent models?

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[QUOTE="Norule04"]

[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

I am tired of these lame BC complaints. If you want to play PS2 games, get a PS2. If you wanna play NES games, get a NES, If you wanna play 64 games, get a 64.

The past generations had no BC and no one really cared. They just kept their old systems and played them when they felt like it. Also they got a new system to play the latest new upcoming games.

Ninten007

What the hell are you crazy you want hook up a gazzillion consoles to your tv be my guest.

Wrong. I am not lazy like most here. My older consoles are kept in their boxes. So if I feel like playing GoldenEye, I pull out the 64 and hook it up to my old analog set and play it until I am done. I feel like playing some God of War, put the 64 away, pull out the PS2 and start playing. Whats so hard about that?

The PS3 is set up nicely at HDTV set.

What about those of us with entertainment centers? It's a pain to move it in order to get behind it and run the wires everytime you want to switch a system out.

Fact is wanting BC isn't lame, both MS and Nintendo offer some form of BC. It's not asking a lot for Sony to simply meet the status quo.

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[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

[QUOTE="Norule04"]

What the hell are you crazy you want hook up a gazzillion consoles to your tv be my guest.

myke2010

Wrong. I am not lazy like most here. My older consoles are kept in their boxes. So if I feel like playing GoldenEye, I pull out the 64 and hook it up to my old analog set and play it until I am done. I feel like playing some God of War, put the 64 away, pull out the PS2 and start playing. Whats so hard about that?

The PS3 is set up nicely at HDTV set.

What about those of us with entertainment centers? It's a pain to move it in order to get behind it and run the wires everytime you want to switch a system out.

Fact is wanting BC isn't lame, both MS and Nintendo offer some form of BC. It's not asking a lot for Sony to simply meet the status quo.

Ok then watch the price go back UP and most will complain about that again. It does have BC, you can play all your PS1 games on it, so gotta count for something.

Wii is a Cube repackaged. The 360 BC is spotty and does not play every Xbox orignal ever created.

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#23 myke2010
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[QUOTE="myke2010"]

[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

Wrong. I am not lazy like most here. My older consoles are kept in their boxes. So if I feel like playing GoldenEye, I pull out the 64 and hook it up to my old analog set and play it until I am done. I feel like playing some God of War, put the 64 away, pull out the PS2 and start playing. Whats so hard about that?

The PS3 is set up nicely at HDTV set.

Ninten007

What about those of us with entertainment centers? It's a pain to move it in order to get behind it and run the wires everytime you want to switch a system out.

Fact is wanting BC isn't lame, both MS and Nintendo offer some form of BC. It's not asking a lot for Sony to simply meet the status quo.

Ok then watch the price go back UP and most will complain about that again. It does have BC, you can play all your PS1 games on it, so gotta count for something.

Wii is a Cube repackaged. The 360 BC is spotty and does not play every Xbox orignal ever created.

Yes the 360 BC is spotty and doesn't play everything, but it does play all the major titles and quite frankly I'd be happy with that from Sony. It's not like anyone wants BC to play the tons of shovelware the PS2 had anyway. They want GOW, MGS3, FFX, etc.

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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="Crossel777"] Wrong, The PS2 had full PS1 backwards compatibility. Obviously there couldn't have been BC on the GC because it's Nintendo first disc format and XBOX being Microsoft starter console. This gen however Wii has it spot on 100% backwards compatibility with ALL GC titles. People want it, there they will complain for it.sonicthemegaman

Sony's looking for it's best interest. What would be the profit of the PS2 if the PS3 had BC on it? $0.

*turns on new 60gig and plays Spyro 3*

Try using a game that isnt on PSNs PSONEs classics next tiem when trying to own someone.

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[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

I am tired of these lame BC complaints. If you want to play PS2 games, get a PS2. If you wanna play NES games, get a NES, If you wanna play 64 games, get a 64.

The past generations had no BC and no one really cared. They just kept their old systems and played them when they felt like it. Also they got a new system to play the latest new upcoming games.

Ninten007

Wrong. The PS2 had full PS1 backwards compatibility. Obviously there couldn't have been BC on the GC because it's Nintendo's first disc format and XBOX being Microsoft's starter console. This gen however the Wii has it spot on, 100% backwards compatibility with ALL GC titles plus older gen games being made downloadable. People want it, therefore they will complain for it.

The 360 has limited BC so why isnt no one complaing about not being able to play 100% of all Xbox titles?

I dunno, maybe because there wearn't that many games for the XBOX to begin with. The majority of the good ones work though.

Though I did hear SW: Knights of the Old Republic didn't work.. I'd complain about that, but I have the PC version.

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It's incredibly disappointing that they continue to support a system (PS2) that is years old. A generation old. That's the only reason I can see that would prevent establishing BC for any present and future PS3 models.

But one part of BC confuses me. Are PS1 titles playable on any of the SKUs? Is it just the PS2 games that aren't supports on the more recent models?

jimkabrhel
Far as I know yes, PS1 games can be played on all of them but the european PAL PS3s have software emulation so they don't all work.
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[QUOTE="Crossel777"]

[QUOTE="Ninten007"]

I am tired of these lame BC complaints. If you want to play PS2 games, get a PS2. If you wanna play NES games, get a NES, If you wanna play 64 games, get a 64.

The past generations had no BC and no one really cared. They just kept their old systems and played them when they felt like it. Also they got a new system to play the latest new upcoming games.

Ninten007

Wrong. The PS2 had full PS1 backwards compatibility. Obviously there couldn't have been BC on the GC because it's Nintendo's first disc format and XBOX being Microsoft's starter console. This gen however the Wii has it spot on, 100% backwards compatibility with ALL GC titles plus older gen games being made downloadable. People want it, therefore they will complain for it.

I know the PS2 was the first one ot do BC.

My point is back in the day people didnt moan about the SNES having BC with the NES, and the 64 having BC with both the NES and SNES. You kept your old consoles and played them when you wanted but at the same time played the new upcoming games.

Yea the Wii has BC spot on because it is basically a Cube. The VC should not count as BC because you download them, not like you can pop in your old carts and start playing.

Complaning about BC is lame.

The 360 has limited BC so why isnt no one complaing about not being able to play 100% of all Xbox titles?

BC had been done for years before PS2. Atari anyone? Gameboy to a lesser extent. Either way, with CD/DVD it was easy for Sony to do it, so backwards coming with the PS2 is only natural considering the format.

Either way, I've always been a PC gamer, so BC is important for me on consoles which I never played. Same with all these other new players coming up. Of course, many of the best PS2 games can be quite hard to get a hold of. My sister brought a PS2 for singstar so I'm hooked up anyway.

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I feel bad for all the people who went out and got a ps3 after they ran out of the motorstorm/MGS4 bundle with backwards compatibility they used every excuse in the book for the reason why they took it out when it was really because no one was buying ps3 games so they removed it from the hardware completely. this is the only time i have ever seen in console history where the late adopters got screwed while the early adoptors got the ps3 the way it was ment to be.
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[QUOTE="Hungry_Jello"]

[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"][QUOTE="LOXO7"]Sony's looking for it's best interest. What would be the profit of the PS2 if the PS3 had BC on it? $0.

*turns on new 60gig and plays Spyro 3*

Try using a game that isnt on PSNs PSONEs classics next tiem when trying to own someone.

But its the original disc, not the PSN game. I can play Jak & daxter on it to. BC is important to consumers and the 60gb had that.
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I feel bad for all the people who went out and got a ps3 after they ran out of the motorstorm/MGS4 bundle with backwards compatibility they used every excuse in the book for the reason why they took it out when it was really because no one was buying ps3 games so they removed it from the hardware completely. this is the only time i have ever seen in console history where the late adopters got screwed while the early adoptors got the ps3 the way it was ment to be.Vipa37
really? well that makes me feel a lot better for having a 60gb. i would have liked Motorstorm but now I can get the sequel. having BC is cool :P
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No BC coming anytime soon. Nonstop-Madness
Yes, just like no slim PS3 anytime soon. Trust them.
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#32 ropumar
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Ps3 backwards compatibility emulation software for all ps3 is coming with God of War 3 launch.

Belive me ;)

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#33 Mr_Ditters
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This link says Sony has given up on BC because there isnt a demand.

http://www.ps3news.com/PlayStation-3/koller-no-ps3-slim-backwards-compatibility-upgradeable-hdd/

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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

It's incredibly disappointing that they continue to support a system (PS2) that is years old. A generation old. That's the only reason I can see that would prevent establishing BC for any present and future PS3 models.

But one part of BC confuses me. Are PS1 titles playable on any of the SKUs? Is it just the PS2 games that aren't supports on the more recent models?

Crossel777

Far as I know yes, PS1 games can be played on all of them but the european PAL PS3s have software emulation so they don't all work.

The emulation on all PS3s for PS1 compatibility is software emulation.

And yes, they all can play PS1 games.