i was a huge home supporter and i have been waiting for it for a very long time, and i have the beta now but i am not really that blown away..i am a bit disappointed...does it still have the chance to be good?
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i was a huge home supporter and i have been waiting for it for a very long time, and i have the beta now but i am not really that blown away..i am a bit disappointed...does it still have the chance to be good?
The problem with HOME is that in the time span since it was first shown MS has developed the Avatar overhaul with Netflix integration, put the infrastructure in place to launch it, and set a November target for getting it out and running. We are going to see MS' response to HOME in place before HOME actually launches.
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That just doesn't bode well for Sony's ability to execute the updates we'd like, fix problems, and implement new features. If LIVE can put out two new features in the time it takes PSN to get one, well, it won't be able to be a better service. And that's a shame, because the competition is what drives them both to improve.
remember though MS( as in Peter Moore) said Sony doesn't have the DNA to do a great online service, especially one that is supposed to rival xbox live.The problem with HOME is that in the time span since it was first shown MS has developed the Avatar overhaul with Netflix integration, put the infrastructure in place to launch it, and set a November target for getting it out and running. We are going to see MS' response to HOME in place before HOME actually launches.
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That just doesn't bode well for Sony's ability to execute the updates we'd like, fix problems, and implement new features. If LIVE can put out two new features in the time it takes PSN to get one, well, it won't be able to be a better service. And that's a shame, because the competition is what drives them both to improve.
subrosian
[QUOTE="subrosian"]remember though MS( as in Peter Moore) said Sony doesn't have the DNA to do a great online service, especially one that is supposed to rival xbox live.The problem with HOME is that in the time span since it was first shown MS has developed the Avatar overhaul with Netflix integration, put the infrastructure in place to launch it, and set a November target for getting it out and running. We are going to see MS' response to HOME in place before HOME actually launches.
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That just doesn't bode well for Sony's ability to execute the updates we'd like, fix problems, and implement new features. If LIVE can put out two new features in the time it takes PSN to get one, well, it won't be able to be a better service. And that's a shame, because the competition is what drives them both to improve.
too_much_eslim
If by DNA he means "infrastructure" he might be right. MS is a software company at heart, and one with a great deal of database / online / net app experience. For Sony to try and out-pace them in providing an online gaming service is simply not playing to Sony's strengths.
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I feel we're seeing that with the long development time for HOME. That's dangerous to Sony, because if MS can revise the LIVE service to the needs of each generation quickly, while Sony is stuck implementing the desired online features of a generation mid-lifecycle, they may lose more ground as the service feature set required by gamers changes over time.
[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="subrosian"]remember though MS( as in Peter Moore) said Sony doesn't have the DNA to do a great online service, especially one that is supposed to rival xbox live.The problem with HOME is that in the time span since it was first shown MS has developed the Avatar overhaul with Netflix integration, put the infrastructure in place to launch it, and set a November target for getting it out and running. We are going to see MS' response to HOME in place before HOME actually launches.
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That just doesn't bode well for Sony's ability to execute the updates we'd like, fix problems, and implement new features. If LIVE can put out two new features in the time it takes PSN to get one, well, it won't be able to be a better service. And that's a shame, because the competition is what drives them both to improve.
subrosian
If by DNA he means "infrastructure" he might be right. MS is a software company at heart, and one with a great deal of database / online / net app experience. For Sony to try and out-pace them in providing an online gaming service is simply not playing to Sony's strengths.
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I feel we're seeing that with the long development time for HOME. That's dangerous to Sony, because if MS can revise the LIVE service to the needs of each generation quickly, while Sony is stuck implementing the desired online features of a generation mid-lifecycle, they may lose more ground as the desire for "core consoles" is increasingly to provide social gaming features.
yeah thats most likely what he was talking about. I just wonder did MShave this planned all along or did it in response to Home. I just find it funny how with basically in a year to 2 years time they created something that looks completely fleshed out and has more useful features for gaming then home does.[QUOTE="Thewbacca"]Why would Home rival Xbox Live? Doesn't the PsN already do that well enough?
And remember what you are playing is a Beta.
farrell2k
Yeah, no. Not even close.
The hell does that mean? The PsN allows friends lists, sales of DLC, games and movies, allows better online play for multiplats and relatively equal online play for exclusives, what exactly makes the Xbox live different apart from a much worse online community and havuing to pay for it?[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="subrosian"]remember though MS( as in Peter Moore) said Sony doesn't have the DNA to do a great online service, especially one that is supposed to rival xbox live.The problem with HOME is that in the time span since it was first shown MS has developed the Avatar overhaul with Netflix integration, put the infrastructure in place to launch it, and set a November target for getting it out and running. We are going to see MS' response to HOME in place before HOME actually launches.
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That just doesn't bode well for Sony's ability to execute the updates we'd like, fix problems, and implement new features. If LIVE can put out two new features in the time it takes PSN to get one, well, it won't be able to be a better service. And that's a shame, because the competition is what drives them both to improve.
too_much_eslim
If by DNA he means "infrastructure" he might be right. MS is a software company at heart, and one with a great deal of database / online / net app experience. For Sony to try and out-pace them in providing an online gaming service is simply not playing to Sony's strengths.
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I feel we're seeing that with the long development time for HOME. That's dangerous to Sony, because if MS can revise the LIVE service to the needs of each generation quickly, while Sony is stuck implementing the desired online features of a generation mid-lifecycle, they may lose more ground as the desire for "core consoles" is increasingly to provide social gaming features.
yeah thats most likely what he was talking about. I just wonder did MShave this planned all along or did it in response to Home. I just find it funny how with basically in a year to 2 years time they created something that looks completely fleshed out and has more useful features for gaming then home does.Rare claim Microsoft put them to work on making Avatars around the Launch of the Wii, so you can presume this was in planning before Home. Microsoft is without doubt constantly planning and evolving Live.
Then MS sure thinks ahead of the competition. They even decided to release it teh same year they announced it.Rare claim Microsoft put them to work on making Avatars around the Launch of the Wii, so you can presume this was in planning before Home. Microsoft is without doubt constantly planning and evolving Live.
CreepyBacon
[QUOTE="farrell2k"][QUOTE="Thewbacca"]Why would Home rival Xbox Live? Doesn't the PsN already do that well enough?
And remember what you are playing is a Beta.
Thewbacca
Yeah, no. Not even close.
The hell does that mean? The PsN allows friends lists, sales of DLC, games and movies, allows better online play for multiplats and relatively equal online play for exclusives, what exactly makes the Xbox live different apart from a much worse online community and havuing to pay for it?better online play for multiplats?? :D really?
you mean like how gta 4 has 14 or so modes for the 360 and only 5 or so for the ps3?
how virtua fighter 5 has online for the 360, but not for the ps3.
equal exclusives?, :D lol
i could go on...
warhawk is good, but name another exclusive that has good online play for the ps3.
[QUOTE="farrell2k"][QUOTE="Thewbacca"]Why would Home rival Xbox Live? Doesn't the PsN already do that well enough?
And remember what you are playing is a Beta.
Thewbacca
Yeah, no. Not even close.
The hell does that mean? The PsN allows friends lists, sales of DLC, games and movies, allows better online play for multiplats and relatively equal online play for exclusives, what exactly makes the Xbox live different apart from a much worse online community and havuing to pay for it?How exactly would you know it offers better online play for multiplats and equal online play for exclusives?
beta,yea. wait for tge FULL game to come out,or whatever,home can be awsome..after its releasei was a huge home supporter and i have been waiting for it for a very long time, and i have the beta now but i am not really that blown away..i am a bit disappointed...does it still have the chance to be good?
damedash122
plus get a sig
[QUOTE="Thewbacca"][QUOTE="farrell2k"][QUOTE="Thewbacca"]Why would Home rival Xbox Live? Doesn't the PsN already do that well enough?
And remember what you are playing is a Beta.
scottiescott238
Yeah, no. Not even close.
The hell does that mean? The PsN allows friends lists, sales of DLC, games and movies, allows better online play for multiplats and relatively equal online play for exclusives, what exactly makes the Xbox live different apart from a much worse online community and havuing to pay for it?better online play for multiplats?? :D really?
you mean like how gta 4 has 14 or so modes for the 360 and only 5 or so for the ps3?
how virtua fighter 5 has online for the 360, but not for the ps3.
equal exclusives?, :D lol
i could go on...
warhawk is good, but name another exclusive that has good online play for the ps3.
VF5 came to the 360 after the PS3, so of course it would have online.
Home will be fun for the people who aren't expecting it to be the 2nd coming of Jesus.
All I want from home, is basically a virtual myspace, you can meet people go around and play Chess with people, go into whatever game you want with a group of people stuff ike that, and I've heard it'll do all of that, so i'm excited for it.
Everyone else who thinks Home is going to be some kind of revolution is setting themselves up for disappointment, you guys need to just look at Home as an equalizer against Xbox Live, thats about it, it's gonna be a unique little thing that you can meet people on and play mini-games, thats how I see it, and I know i'll enjoy it because i'm not hyping it out the wazoo.
[QUOTE="Thewbacca"][QUOTE="farrell2k"][QUOTE="Thewbacca"]Why would Home rival Xbox Live? Doesn't the PsN already do that well enough?
And remember what you are playing is a Beta.
Snugenz
Yeah, no. Not even close.
The hell does that mean? The PsN allows friends lists, sales of DLC, games and movies, allows better online play for multiplats and relatively equal online play for exclusives, what exactly makes the Xbox live different apart from a much worse online community and havuing to pay for it?How exactly would you know it offers better online play for multiplats and equal online play for exclusives?
Incredible amounts of Lag for multiplatform games. There are some exceptions, like COD4, but most are synonymous with it.[QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="Thewbacca"][QUOTE="farrell2k"][QUOTE="Thewbacca"]Why would Home rival Xbox Live? Doesn't the PsN already do that well enough?
And remember what you are playing is a Beta.
Thewbacca
Yeah, no. Not even close.
The hell does that mean? The PsN allows friends lists, sales of DLC, games and movies, allows better online play for multiplats and relatively equal online play for exclusives, what exactly makes the Xbox live different apart from a much worse online community and havuing to pay for it?How exactly would you know it offers better online play for multiplats and equal online play for exclusives?
Incredible amounts of Lag for multiplatform games. There are some exceptions, like COD4, but most are synonymous with it.No. If you are plugged in you shouldn't have any lag. Most games that you think have lag are not lagging for anyone else but yourself.[QUOTE="Snugenz"][QUOTE="Thewbacca"][QUOTE="farrell2k"][QUOTE="Thewbacca"]Why would Home rival Xbox Live? Doesn't the PsN already do that well enough?
And remember what you are playing is a Beta.
Thewbacca
Yeah, no. Not even close.
The hell does that mean? The PsN allows friends lists, sales of DLC, games and movies, allows better online play for multiplats and relatively equal online play for exclusives, what exactly makes the Xbox live different apart from a much worse online community and havuing to pay for it?How exactly would you know it offers better online play for multiplats and equal online play for exclusives?
Incredible amounts of Lag for multiplatform games. There are some exceptions, like COD4, but most are synonymous with it.I play near enough all my multiplats on my 360 and i never noticed these incredible amounts of lag you're talking about?, and living in Ireland with a 3mb connection makes me very susceptible to lag especially when playing with American. In saying that yes i have experienced lag in online gaming, but i've experienced it on the 360 and PS3 alike.
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