Anybody else a little upset the PSV seems to be failing?

I'm reading the tech analysis of Uncharted Golden Abyss, over at Eurogamer, and one can't help but think that Sony really did create the ultimate handheld system. A system with great potential--psx, ps2, psv, psn game playback. With the rise of indie developers and buying games through an "app" store of sorts, it is actually rather odd that it didn't fly off shelves.

Anybody have any ideas/thoughts as to why there isn't any hype/excitment for this thing? I know the phone/tablet market is eating a bit of the pie, but don't the real techies love a good, powerful, multifunction gaming handheld?

It hasnt even released in north America and europe Troll

one can't help but think that Sony really did create the ultimate handheld system. Heirren

I really don't agree with that at all.
It's way too expensive, it has a short battery life, and the focus on playing old/ported console games doesn't suit handheld gaming very well.

As for why it isn't selling...it's an expensive Sony handheld, launching without any big-name handheld titles, a year after a Nintendo handheld. I could go on, but I don't think any more needs to be said.

The Japanese market really can't forcast how it will do once it hits the rest of the world, and once it's out everywhere we'll see more games, which will mean more sale.s

PSV is a perfectly fine system for me as a gamer, it just needs more of the kind of software I like.

However it's terrible as a mass market product in almost every way, bad design decisions from a business perspective.

[QUOTE="Heirren"] one can't help but think that Sony really did create the ultimate handheld system. Planeforger

I really don't agree with that at all.
It's way too expensive, it has a short battery life, and the focus on playing old/ported console games doesn't suit handheld gaming very well.

As for why it isn't selling...it's an expensive Sony handheld, launching without any big-name handheld titles, a year after a Nintendo handheld. I could go on, but I don't think any more needs to be said.

Really? Because I'm looking at it and I'm thinking to myself, "this thing looks like the creation of videogame players." Isn't this what people have been asking for, for...I don't know, EVER? I don't care for the price ever, but when I invest in handheld/console hardware, I think of the lifecycle. $600 for a ps3 sounds crazy, but people that bought one at launch have a system that has been supported for 6 years and counting. Factor that in and the price isn't that high, really. The same goes for the Vita, imo. $300 for a handheld they could potentially be supported 7 years?

It's all about the games. 3DS stomps all over the Vita while being cheaper at the same time.

Im upset becuz I dont understand why its failing. If I knew the reason, a nice solid reason, to why it was failing then I would be fine with it. But I really dont get it.Nengo_Flow

The main reason is that is has no must-have software system seller.

(Mario Platformer, Pokemon, Mario Kart, Monster Hunter)

I'm more upset by the fact that we have a large and angry mob that delights in it's hardships. The device itself is very promising and has a ton of potential if allowed to show it.

It's also a little baffling, considering how noone was bothered by the price before 3DS had a drop.

Im upset becuz I dont understand why its failing. If I knew the reason, a nice solid reason, to why it was failing then I would be fine with it. But I really dont get it.Nengo_Flow

I know, right? This is what I'm talking about. I look at the 3DS and the Vita--surely Vita is going to stomp it. The 3DS feels cheaper than the dslite, has poor battery life with "3D" on, and so far has a library full of rehash. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm playing MK7 just as much as anything right now, but it isn't anything new. NOTHING is new on the console thus far. I think Nintendo is succeeding on their name alone.

Then I look at the Vita. It looks like the dream unit for players and devs, as it offers what we know and also what we don't know yet.

The main reason is that is has no must-have software system seller.

(Mario Platformer, Pokemon, Mario Kart, Monster Hunter)

SuperFlakeman

So are you saying that internet forum dwelling folk--which in reality is a rather large community if you really think about it--aren't putting our money where our mouth is? Vita is the console that gives the "break the mold" attitude, while 3DS is relying on what is tried and true.

I'm reading the tech analysis of Uncharted Golden Abyss, over at Eurogamer, and one can't help but think that Sony really did create the ultimate handheld system. A system with great potential--psx, ps2, psv, psn game playback. With the rise of indie developers and buying games through an "app" store of sorts, it is actually rather odd that it didn't fly off shelves.

Anybody have any ideas/thoughts as to why there isn't any hype/excitment for this thing? I know the phone/tablet market is eating a bit of the pie, but don't the real techies love a good, powerful, multifunction gaming handheld?

Heirren

Because it's not out yet in most parts of the world.

And because most of its planned lineup won't be out for another 6 months.

Thats the problem. Handhelds are aimed at children and tech heads only take up a small fraction of this market. The fact is many tech heads can get all the features on Vita and more on phones anyway. Even if Vita finds success it will be minimal. The best Sony can hope to achieve is converting a few hardcore gamers who wouldn't normally go on handhelds but they still aren't the target. Hardcore gamers would rather play on their big screens.

Nope. When phones you can get for free with a 2 year contract can do everything a handheld can do plus more? Companies are idiots for trying to release a new handheld. The Vita is one of the worst flops I remember. And the 3DS flopped as well. They had to cut the price drastically then rely on their loyal moronic fanbase to buy it. But it will be their last handheld and I am guessing the sales will start declining when Nintendo made software startst to slow down.

Remember when Gabe said they should just apologize with the PS3 and start over? They should just keep Vita in Japan and giver everyone their money back and write all the development off on their taxes.

We do not need a Vita around. We do not need the 3DS either but Nintendo would rather go bankrupt then listen to people.......and I will be happy to see them go belly up after they tricked everyone with the Wii.

Failing? It's not out yet? It's only released in Japan, we still have the whole rest of the world............wait and see.Slimmin360

In japan?

Don't care.

[QUOTE="Slimmin360"]Failing? It's not out yet? It's only released in Japan, we still have the whole rest of the world............wait and see.Willy105

Nope. When phones you can get for free with a 2 year contract can do everything a handheld can do plus more? Companies are idiots for trying to release a new handheld. The Vita is one of the worst flops I remember. And the 3DS flopped as well. They had to cut the price drastically then rely on their loyal moronic fanbase to buy it. But it will be their last handheld and I am guessing the sales will start declining when Nintendo made software startst to slow down.

Remember when Gabe said they should just apologize with the PS3 and start over? They should just keep Vita in Japan and giver everyone their money back and write all the development off on their taxes.

We do not need a Vita around. We do not need the 3DS either but Nintendo would rather go bankrupt then listen to people.......and I will be happy to see them go belly up after they tricked everyone with the Wii.

WarTornRuston

See, this is the mentality that leads to a market crash. The quality of the phone game market is just piss poor in every respect and consumer seem fine with it. Eventually this way will lead to the market diminishing, as companies see they can make more money with less investment.

^ that is just him being ignorant though. If 3DS is the failure he thinks it is the 15 million units its sold must be a huge flop right there.

The main reason the Vita is selling like crap in Japan is because the launch games are western themed (america) games that Japan doesn't wish to play. So to Japan, the Vita has no games. Look at it this way. If the Vita launched in America first and all it had was Japanese themed games like dating sims. Do you think it would sell well in America? I sure don't.AmazonTreeBoa

Are you overlooking the Nintendo 3DS?

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]The main reason the Vita is selling like crap in Japan is because the launch games are western themed (america) games that Japan doesn't wish to play. So to Japan, the Vita has no games. Look at it this way. If the Vita launched in America first and all it had was Japanese themed games like dating sims. Do you think it would sell well in America? I sure don't.PillyChickle

Are you overlooking the Nintendo 3DS?

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]The main reason the Vita is selling like crap in Japan is because the launch games are western themed (america) games that Japan doesn't wish to play. So to Japan, the Vita has no games. Look at it this way. If the Vita launched in America first and all it had was Japanese themed games like dating sims. Do you think it would sell well in America? I sure don't.PillyChickle

Are you overlooking the Nintendo 3DS?

Dude I totally feel you. Now I'd rather say PSV "struggling" instead of "failing", but I get what your saying. And I def feel you.

The PSV looks like it'd be so much more attractive to people with 360's and PS3's. It looks amazing to me, and other people I know who have either a 360 or PS3. On paper it seems like everything you could possibly want in a handheld.

Then I go online and its getting completely shi**ed on everywhere. And I'm not dissing the 3DS at all. I plan to get one when Kingdom Hearts comes out, but the PSV looks so much better than it to me. Like a lot better. I hope tosee them both succeed and prove all the naysayers wrong.

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="Slimmin360"]Failing? It's not out yet? It's only released in Japan, we still have the whole rest of the world............wait and see.Slimmin360

The fist couple of weeks will certainly see solid sales numbers.

However, I think after that sales will dwindle and Sony will be forced to lower the price. If I'm wrong, I'll still be here to accept it. I hope you'll do the same and man up when the sales aren't what you claim they will be.

Dude I totally feel you. Now I'd rather say PSV "struggling" instead of "failing", but I get what your saying. And I def feel you.

The PSV looks like it'd be so much more attractive to people with 360's and PS3's. It looks amazing to me, and other people I know who have either a 360 or PS3. On paper it seems like everything you could possibly want in a handheld.

Then I go online and its getting completely shi**ed on everywhere. And I'm not dissing the 3DS at all. I plan to get one when Kingdom Hearts comes out, but the PSV looks so much better than it to me. Like a lot better. I hope tosee them both succeed and prove all the naysayers wrong.

phantomblade220

Here's where I'm at with Vita--I REALLY want to buy one, but I'm worried that support will be dropped. I know that seems extreme, but I don't think it is outside the realm of reality. I almost want to buy one just to support the games industry. Silly, right? However, the way things are heading I think we are close to this: "Hey, you guys remember how cool dedicated gaming handhelds were?" ... "Yeah, it's too bad they don't make em anymore."

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Dude I totally feel you. Now I'd rather say PSV "struggling" instead of "failing", but I get what your saying. And I def feel you.

The PSV looks like it'd be so much more attractive to people with 360's and PS3's. It looks amazing to me, and other people I know who have either a 360 or PS3. On paper it seems like everything you could possibly want in a handheld.

Then I go online and its getting completely shi**ed on everywhere. And I'm not dissing the 3DS at all. I plan to get one when Kingdom Hearts comes out, but the PSV looks so much better than it to me. Like a lot better. I hope tosee them both succeed and prove all the naysayers wrong.

Heirren

Here's where I'm at with Vita--I REALLY want to buy one, but I'm worried that support will be dropped. I know that seems extreme, but I don't think it is outside the realm of reality. I almost want to buy one just to support the games industry. Silly, right? However, the way things are heading I think we are close to this: "Hey, you guys remember how cool dedicated gaming handhelds were?" ... "Yeah, it's too bad they don't make em anymore."

3DS' sales and games are worthy (to say the least) for the system to be called successor to DS.

The only anomaly in the dedicated handheld business was the PSP, it succeeded in Japan, but really DS' library obliterated it from a gamer's perspective and it's not like PSP/Vita games are lost forever. Sony's handheld teams will just shift to PS4, whether it's retail or PSN games, and the other publishers will keep releasing whatever PSP had on 3DS instead of Vita.

You could argue that competition is good and it leads to better hardware etc. etc. but the games will still be made, but on 3DS instead.

[QUOTE="phantomblade220"]

Dude I totally feel you. Now I'd rather say PSV "struggling" instead of "failing", but I get what your saying. And I def feel you.

The PSV looks like it'd be so much more attractive to people with 360's and PS3's. It looks amazing to me, and other people I know who have either a 360 or PS3. On paper it seems like everything you could possibly want in a handheld.

Then I go online and its getting completely shi**ed on everywhere. And I'm not dissing the 3DS at all. I plan to get one when Kingdom Hearts comes out, but the PSV looks so much better than it to me. Like a lot better. I hope tosee them both succeed and prove all the naysayers wrong.

Heirren

Here's where I'm at with Vita--I REALLY want to buy one, but I'm worried that support will be dropped. I know that seems extreme, but I don't think it is outside the realm of reality. I almost want to buy one just to support the games industry. Silly, right? However, the way things are heading I think we are close to this: "Hey, you guys remember how cool dedicated gaming handhelds were?" ... "Yeah, it's too bad they don't make em anymore."

I'm reading the tech analysis of Uncharted Golden Abyss

Heirren

The Vita, as it stands, has practically no games I'd like to play, and games like Uncharted do not help that.

The Uncharted console games are, to me, ok rentals at best, and those have the benefit of being played on the PS3.

These are NOT the types of games I want on a handheld.

There are a few games that look to be coming along that'd make me want the handheld, but Sony is definitely pushing the wrong games for the PS Vita.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I'm reading the tech analysis of Uncharted Golden Abyss

SW__Troll

The Vita, as it stands, has practically no games I'd like to play, and games like Uncharted do not help that.

The Uncharted console games are, to me, ok rentals at best, and those have the benefit of being played on the PS3.

These are NOT the types of games I want on a handheld.

There are a few games that look to be coming along that'd make me want the handheld, but Sony is definitely pushing the wrong games for the PS Vita.

3DS has nothing to do with why the Vita is doing bad.AmazonTreeBoa

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

I could understand you mentioning the 3DS if the Vita launched at a cheaper price, the memory cards were cheaper and the Vita had Japanese games and was still doing bad. You think too highly of the 3DS and it's influence.

Oh wait, you're serious? Well then, let's think of it like this: which of the two is the cheapest? Which of the two comes with 2 gigs of storage? Which has the most Japanese-made games? Think of all the money spent on 100,000 3DS units that could've been spent on the Vita in Japan last week.

You honestly believe the 3DS isn't doing anything to harm the Vita right now?

It's all about the games. 3DS stomps all over the Vita while being cheaper at the same time.

PillyChickle

[QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

It's all about the games. 3DS stomps all over the Vita while being cheaper at the same time.

FlamesOfGrey

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[QUOTE="PillyChickle"]

It's all about the games. 3DS stomps all over the Vita while being cheaper at the same time.

SaltyMeatballs

From my online experiences with both the online isn't close I've had more stable matches in the Vita then the 3DS added to the fact that the only people I can play with are in Japan (Vita)and I live in the U.S.

Features the Vita has more. One thing I don't know is can the 3DS do fully implemented custom soundtracks? The PS3 didn't have that feature but the VIta does.

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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

I'm reading the tech analysis of Uncharted Golden Abyss

chaoz-king

The Vita, as it stands, has practically no games I'd like to play, and games like Uncharted do not help that.

The Uncharted console games are, to me, ok rentals at best, and those have the benefit of being played on the PS3.

These are NOT the types of games I want on a handheld.

There are a few games that look to be coming along that'd make me want the handheld, but Sony is definitely pushing the wrong games for the PS Vita.

I think it's ok to have the games, but making those games the focal point of the whole product is not a great move.

There are different buying trends between handheld owners, console owners, and PC owners, and many companies just don't seem to grasp that. What sells well somewhere doesn't guarantee success elsewhere.