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Original Mafia came out before GTA3, IIRC. Or around the same time frame that you couldn't exactly call one a rip off of the other.Great... another GTA rip-off. :roll:
GreenGoblin2099
Excited? No. I just pray they don't fvck it up this time, because quite frankly, the original Mafia was effing amazing at the time if you look past its ridiculous difficulty. Hopefully they will make the missions more fun this time (less driving, more shooting), and the story that isn't a rip off of Goodfellas. Mafia II did have great stuff, like great cast of characters, best gunplay in an open world game that I can think of, a great sense of atmosphere, etc. They just need to expand on that, give ridiculous amount of little touches to details like the original Mafia, and Mafia III should be amazing. [QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]Original Mafia came out before GTA3, IIRC. Or around the same time frame that you couldn't exactly call one a rip off of the other.Great... another GTA rip-off. :roll:
funsohng
Chill, man.. just messing with the peeps
As long as I don't need to drive to California to talk to someone for 5 minutes in a cafe, then drive to New York to start the mission, I'll be looking forward to it.
Would rather get chlamydiajg4xchamp:lol: Surprised you didn't take issue with the OP saying Mafia II was godlike and the best game 2K ever published.
[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]Original Mafia came out before GTA3, IIRC. Or around the same time frame that you couldn't exactly call one a rip off of the other.Great... another GTA rip-off. :roll:
funsohng
Actually the first Mafia was going to be a TPS like any other where you jump from level to level. But then some of the devs got a peak at what Rockstar was doing with GTA3 so they decided to do something similar with their game. Instead of jumping from levels they would create a city so that you would drive to the levels. That's why there is basically nothing to do in the city. That alone makes it kind of a GTA rip-off.
Even the demo for Mafia II was enough for me to know the game was abd. Hearing it everywhere else is just adding to it. So no
8.5 on Gamespot says otherwise.Even the demo for Mafia II was enough for me to know the game was abd. Hearing it everywhere else is just adding to it. So no
seanmcloughlin
Original Mafia came out before GTA3, IIRC. Or around the same time frame that you couldn't exactly call one a rip off of the other.[QUOTE="funsohng"] [QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]
Great... another GTA rip-off. :roll:
glez13
Actually the first Mafia was going to be a TPS like any other where you jump from level to level. But then some of the devs got a peak at what Rockstar was doing with GTA3 so they decided to do something similar with their game. Instead of jumping from levels they would create a city so that you would drive to the levels. That's why there is basically nothing to do in the city. That alone makes it kind of a GTA rip-off.
You are right, it did come out later than GTA. Though the way it plays, its hardly a rip off GTA.Would rather get chlamydiajg4xchampWas gonna come in here and post "inb4 jg4xchamp." Why'd you have to ruin all that, dawg? :(
[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]8.5 on Gamespot says otherwise.Even the demo for Mafia II was enough for me to know the game was abd. Hearing it everywhere else is just adding to it. So no
TrueAmerican007
I have never once based an opinion on a game from a score. They also gave MGS4 a 10 and that's BS
Yes, Mafia II was a misunderstood mastepeice, critics bashed it for not being similar to GTA (and if it was, critics still would have bashed it for being similar to GTA), poor 2k made a mastepeice and it didn't stand a chance of getting the critial reception it deserved. Maifa II should have been a lesson to Bioware and Hideo Kojima on how to actually make cinemetic GAMES and not overpriced movies with PS3 and Xbox 360 written on the cover. I hope Mafia III is another masterpeice and I hope this time it not only gets the critical reception it deserves, I also hope that it raises the painfully low bar for cinematic games.
Would rather get chlamydiajg4xchampYeah I'm on the chlamydia wagon after playing Mafia 2 :P It epitomises everything wrong about modern games.
As long as 2k doesn't rush them like last time. SAGE_OF_FIREAre you kidding me? 2 was in development for years.
I think the first two were linear and repetitive and just a tad boring, so not particularly.
I will play it though.
I loved the original Godfather, wasn't the second one a huge disappointment or something?would rather have godfather 3 or perhaps another scarface game.
Armoured_Mage
Yahtzee Croshaw already echoed my problems various times in his Zero Punctuation and Extra Punctuation stuff, but the Mafia games are just kind of generic. The story is incredibly dull and overdone (CRIME DOES NOT PAY!!!), the voice acting and characters are cliches I saw all the way back in GTA III in 2001, the gunplay and driving are not great and actually rather dull and average compared to the more exciting driving and gunplay of GTA and Saints Row, and at the end of the day the actual city and activities are dull and there's nothing to do in either game except move forth to the next objective and maybe spend a few hours driving around and padding the length. It's like if they made Uncharted 2 open world, but changed nothing except to pad the length by making you drive from point to point in Nepal.
I mean, I'm very hopeful for Mafia III, but the first two were small fish in a pond full of various types of much better and worse fish, and just kind of ignored as a result of being so overwhelmingly average, dull and uncompelling. It doesn't help that even the missions don't do anything better despite being the only part of the world where you do anything, it's still a painfully linear slog of shooting, one moment in particular that stands out is when you have to perform a hotel hit. In GTA IV, when you have to kill someone in a hotel, you get a damn choice on how you approach it and how you escape the situation, along with some cool moments thrown in. In Mafia II, you have to follow the instructions on screen and move forward and do exactly as the game says while being held by the nose like somebody who has never played a game.
Ok I guess that's the end of my rant, but in short, I just think Mafia needs to choose what it wants to be. Even if it's going to be another linear game in an open world, they should at least give me characters and a story I care about and not some caricature of every crime movie I've ever seen.
Hell yeah. The original Mafia is one of my all time favorites and I do like Mafia 2. It's a much better series than GTA.
"excited" is a strong word. I bought Mafia II for around $10 and really enjoyed for that price... it was a pleasant surprise. But I doubt I will ever be $60 excited for a Mafia game.
Yes, Mafia II was a misunderstood mastepeice, critics bashed it for not being similar to GTA (and if it was, critics still would have bashed it for being similar to GTA), poor 2k made a mastepeice and it didn't stand a chance of getting the critial reception it deserved. Maifa II should have been a lesson to Bioware and Hideo Kojima on how to actually make cinemetic GAMES and not overpriced movies with PS3 and Xbox 360 written on the cover. I hope Mafia III is another masterpeice and I hope this time it not only gets the critical reception it deserves, I also hope that it raises the painfully low bar for cinematic games.
RageQuitter69
cinematic, fine, but then it should at least just admit it and run with that distinction. So many call it a GTA clone or compare it to GTA, but its not even in the same genre. Mafia games should be compared to its true peers: games like Uncharted. The open world in Mafia 2 was a lot of wasted effort. Take2 put an open world in the Mafia series because it wants to pretend to be more like GTA, like they are above games like Uncharted or something. It is a bold-faced lie to consumers, telling them that they will enter a living 1940s city and take part in an adventure of that time period. An open world should be more than just buildings, traffic, and pedestrians. It requires content, both in quality and quantity for it to work. I would say that even GTA4 was lacking but at least there was something decent to remember there. At least they tried.
The people that say that Mafia 2 was better than any GTA probably just prefer games in the Uncharted genre. They need good stories and cinematics. That's just not the appeal of GTA. The reason why so many people are upset about Mafia 2 is because it is based on that lie. They should just drop the open world just like No More Heroes did.
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