Apart from MMO and FPS, All Other Genres on PC are DEAD

its too much pricey to play on PC....you need upgrade on it every 2 years or 4 years its hardware to play it.....full graphics

Problematic Install Games......if you are guy who doesnt know to install new maps etc..

Lag Issues...

Deadly Virus...

Format issues

majestix1988

Wierd.. my first post disapeared. My point still stand. Consider that WoW is the largest single game in terms of revenue generated. It's a 'hardcore' PC game, it's highly constumizable... and this one game is most likely generating more revenue than all of the games on the X360. Considering this how can you not consider the PC past of the 'mass market'?

Not particularly TC.

Oh my word,I don´t even know where to start...

...and come to think of it,I won´t even try.

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

Wierd.. my first post disapeared. My point still stand. Consider that WoW is the largest single game in terms of revenue generated. It's a 'hardcore' PC game, it's highly constumizable... and this one game is most likely generating more revenue than all of the games on the X360. Considering this how can you not consider the PC past of the 'mass market'?

GunSmith1_basic

Whoa.. hold on a second here. You're dismissing WoW as a Mass Market game. You're comparing WoW to Minesweeper and Solitaire? You're not a real gamer if you're playing WoW.... And you've never actually played the game? WoW is a helluva lot more complex, involved and 'hardcore' and 95% of the console games out there. Some people dislike the game (I'm not a big fan myself), but to claim that it's not a legitimate game is silly.

It seems you're saying that the PC isent part of the mass market.. except for a few games. However apparently those games are not real PC games... apparently because they are part of the mass market?

...and come to think of it,I won´t even try.

Arach666

This is my attitude.

[QUOTE="Arach666"]

...and come to think of it,I won´t even try.

psn8214

This is my attitude.

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="Mazoch"]

Wierd.. my first post disapeared. My point still stand. Consider that WoW is the largest single game in terms of revenue generated. It's a 'hardcore' PC game, it's highly constumizable... and this one game is most likely generating more revenue than all of the games on the X360. Considering this how can you not consider the PC past of the 'mass market'?

Whoa.. hold on a second here. You're dismissing WoW as a Mass Market game. You're comparing WoW to Minesweeper and Solitaire? You're not a real gamer if you're playing WoW.... And you've never actually played the game? WoW is a helluva lot more complex, involved and 'hardcore' and 95% of the console games out there. Some people dislike the game (I'm not a big fan myself), but to claim that it's not a legitimate game is silly.

It seems you're saying that the PC isent part of the mass market.. except for a few games that are not real PC games because they are part of the mass market.

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"] Yes there are mass market games on pc like WoW and the Sims. Almost everybody has a computer because they need one and so there is a massive potential market there for a dev who is willing to aim broadly. It's a thin definition but it's like those aren't "gamers". It's like those people who play a lot of minesweeper, solitare, or flash games on newgrounds or wherever. It's time filler. I've never played WoW, but I understand it is a grind with attainable goals but no sense of real progress, just like the Sims, and just like minesweeper. For games on PC to be mass market, they have to decend to this level, where it is hardly even a game at allGunSmith1_basic

Whoa.. hold on a second here. You're dismissing WoW as a Mass Market game. You're comparing WoW to Minesweeper and Solitaire? You're not a real gamer if you're playing WoW.... And you've never actually played the game? WoW is a helluva lot more complex, involved and 'hardcore' and 95% of the console games out there. Some people dislike the game (I'm not a big fan myself), but to claim that it's not a legitimate game is silly.

It seems you're saying that the PC isent part of the mass market.. except for a few games that are not real PC games because they are part of the mass market.

Well.. you are right, it's a time filler .. that's true of all video games. But beyond that you're flat out incorrect. WoW is pretty damn complicated when compared to the vast majority of games out there. What's the point of Multiplayer Halo? Or The point of Demon Souls? Is Super Mario a 'real' game?

There is no point aside from amusement and passing time. By your logic 'real' games dosent exist at all. But again. You seem to discount WoW as a 'real' game simply because if it was your theory would not work. Now you're claiming that wow is not a 'real' game.. please.. by your definition.. what are some examples of real games and why are they 'real' if WoW is not 'real'?

Well.. you are right, it's a time filler .. that's true of all video games. But beyond that you're flat out incorrect. WoW is pretty damn complicated when compared to the vast majority of games out there. What's the point of Multiplayer Halo? Or The point of Demon Souls? Is Super Mario a 'real' game?

There is no point aside from amusement and passing time. By your logic 'real' games dosent exist at all. But again. You seem to discount WoW as a 'real' game simply because if it was your theory would not work. Now you're claiming that wow is not a 'real' game.. please.. by your definition.. what are some examples of real games and why are they 'real' if WoW is not 'real'?

Mazoch

[QUOTE="Mazoch"]Well.. you are right, it's a time filler .. that's true of all video games. But beyond that you're flat out incorrect. WoW is pretty damn complicated when compared to the vast majority of games out there. What's the point of Multiplayer Halo? Or The point of Demon Souls? Is Super Mario a 'real' game?

There is no point aside from amusement and passing time. By your logic 'real' games dosent exist at all. But again. You seem to discount WoW as a 'real' game simply because if it was your theory would not work. Now you're claiming that wow is not a 'real' game.. please.. by your definition.. what are some examples of real games and why are they 'real' if WoW is not 'real'?

GunSmith1_basic

Its just trolling

PC has better RTS, RPG's and FPS over consoles. Those genre's are pretty much what this generation is.

[QUOTE="HenriH-42"]

I suggest you buy a console and move on.

I own all consoles, but people big up PC as if its the ultimate gaming experiance, and quite frankly, it aint.

I think PC gaming has become an exclusive thing. You want the best experience, you pay for it. Consoles are so readily available and everyone knows about them.

It would be nice if AMD, Intel, ATI, and Nvidia did a collaboration and started a "build your own gaming PC" marketing plan.

There's The Sim's 3..and that's a Simulator ..there is alsosome other genres that are doing good, but some other people probably already said that..

My last computer cost me $300 with a $100 GPU back in 2004. It can still play almost any game (with the exception of Crysis and FC2) and close to max settings (No AA). It isnt that difficult to install updates and maps and such. You get more lag on consoles because they use P2P for their games. You get that on your home computer anyway. Again thats just regular problems with any computer.Iantheone

Or you went to a flea market? :P

[QUOTE="Iantheone"] My last computer cost me $300 with a $100 GPU back in 2004. It can still play almost any game (with the exception of Crysis and FC2) and close to max settings (No AA). It isnt that difficult to install updates and maps and such. You get more lag on consoles because they use P2P for their games. You get that on your home computer anyway. Again thats just regular problems with any computer.gamer620

Or you went to a flea market? :P

[QUOTE="gamer620"]

[QUOTE="Iantheone"] My last computer cost me $300 with a $100 GPU back in 2004. It can still play almost any game (with the exception of Crysis and FC2) and close to max settings (No AA). It isnt that difficult to install updates and maps and such. You get more lag on consoles because they use P2P for their games. You get that on your home computer anyway. Again thats just regular problems with any computer.Iantheone

Or you went to a flea market? :P

If you are only getting 40-50 fps in Portal, how are you running UE3 engine games? Doom 3? Rome: total war? DoW2? You claim you can run almost any game close to max settings. Clearly Source engine games (at least portal) work (try TF2 on near max settings), i would be curious to hear your benchmarks on a game like Vampire: The masquerade - Bloodlines (another Source engine game) or even HL2: Episode 2. I don't think you play enough games to truly gauge your system well. I would love to hear your benchmarks. I would personally love to hear actual games you have plaed on that system because I doubt it was anything from beyond 2008.

i disagreed. yes MMO is health, but FPS is not doing good unless they start to charge ppl monthly fee.

This is the only way they could make money on pc games now.

Warcraft 3 is still alive and well. And Starcraft 2 is coming out soonish. So the RTS community is still going strong...

Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 are about to prove you very, very, very wrong. :Pmusicalmac

[QUOTE="Iantheone"][QUOTE="gamer620"] you either work for a computer retailer or you are lying out of your teeth. You aren't getting a CPU, GPU, Mobo, Memory, tower and PSU for 400 dollars. Not one that will play most of todays games well at least. I am a self professed advocate for PC gaming and the idea that it is not expensive, but under 500 dollars is NOT getting you a good system. I doubt your PC would even be able to run Portal at 30 FPS on medium settings.

Or you went to a flea market? :P

gamer620

If you are only getting 40-50 fps in Portal, how are you running UE3 engine games? Doom 3? Rome: total war? DoW2? You claim you can run almost any game close to max settings. Clearly Source engine games (at least portal) work (try TF2 on near max settings), i would be curious to hear your benchmarks on a game like Vampire: The masquerade - Bloodlines (another Source engine game) or even HL2: Episode 2. I don't think you play enough games to truly gauge your system well. I would love to hear your benchmarks. I would personally love to hear actual games you have plaed on that system because I doubt it was anything from beyond 2008.