Apparently, Killzone 2's controls are unintuitive and sluggish...

It doesn't have to be exactly like other FPSs. Not shooting while jumping can change the pace and sty/e of the gameplay, offering a different experience. That kind of thing can be good in its own way.

Mordred19

"Oh noooez! I can't shoot in mid-air!!! What am I to doooo!?"

Come on guys. How many war stories have you heard where a soldier jumped off a rooftop and got 3 headhots before hitting the ground. Yes, it's pretty cool to do, but it's not something you HAVE to have. Besides, how do you guys know you can't do that? Just wait until it's released.

I think it's funny lemmings are bashing a preview build of a game.

It's great, if all you have to complain about on a preview build is the controls. With at least 4-5 months still to go you know it's only getting better from here.

[QUOTE="Mordred19"][QUOTE="primateface"]

primateface

It doesn't have to be exactly like other FPSs. Not shooting while jumping can change the pace and sty/e of the gameplay, offering a different experience. That kind of thing can be good in its own way.

Nope it gives the person a unfair advantage on the ground because they can shoot at you falling and you cant shoot at them while falling.

yeah, and not every other step in mulitplayer FPSs is over a ledge. it just means that those few who find themselves out in the open, falling, and being shot at need to work around it next time. think about it, they aren't shoehorning this "no-shoot-while-jump" concept into some other game where it's designed for players to jump and shoot. if everything mostly complements each other: the weapons, the maps, possible vehicles, or your vaunted elevators, there's not going to be a problem, and certianly no place for someone to impose ideas out the blue for how things "should" be(especially before we get long-term hands on experience to test that balance).

developers really dont think anymore...ok...so if i jump off a high platform in killzone2 multiplayer and someones below me they can shoot at me while im falling...yet i cant return fire untill im on the ground again...that's called unfair advantage.

developers are really stupid these days.

developers really dont think anymore...ok...so if i jump off a high platform in killzone2 multiplayer and someones below me they can shoot at me while im falling...yet i cant return fire untill im on the ground again...that's called unfair advantage.

developers are really stupid these days.

primateface

Okay, but do you know if there will be tons and tons of high platforms with very easily exploitable shooting zones all the way down? What if Guerilla implements realistic fall damage, whereby it would be unwise for any player to go doing dives in the middle of a warehouse anyway?

I havent heard anyone complain about the Killzone 2 controls yet, and I've read 1,000 previews.

Hopefully it wont be a problem when the game hits. I cant wait.

[QUOTE="primateface"]

developers really dont think anymore...ok...so if i jump off a high platform in killzone2 multiplayer and someones below me they can shoot at me while im falling...yet i cant return fire untill im on the ground again...that's called unfair advantage.

developers are really stupid these days.

Mordred19

Okay, but do you know if there will be tons and tons of high platforms with very easily exploitable shooting zones all the way down? What if Guerilla implements realistic fall damage, whereby it would be unwise for any player to go doing dives in the middle of a warehouse anyway?

i dont even like the fact someone jumping down from any platform cant fire back at me while im able to shoot at them while im on the ground...wow what a easy kill dude....**** developers do not think.

only reason they did this to try to prevent bunnyhopping when there's other ways...but their plan actually backfired and hurt the gameplay.

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]All it means is tchbo. Sony keeps force feeding Guerilla Games money instead of locking up exclusives. Oh well, they'll get what they deserve. A flop and inferior multiplats.RotaryRX7

-GhostMLD-'s friend? :roll:

He said Ghost left him in charge when he was banned.

[QUOTE="Mordred19"][QUOTE="primateface"]

developers really dont think anymore...ok...so if i jump off a high platform in killzone2 multiplayer and someones below me they can shoot at me while im falling...yet i cant return fire untill im on the ground again...that's called unfair advantage.

developers are really stupid these days.

primateface

Okay, but do you know if there will be tons and tons of high platforms with very easily exploitable shooting zones all the way down? What if Guerilla implements realistic fall damage, whereby it would be unwise for any player to go doing dives in the middle of a warehouse anyway?

i dont even like the fact someone jumping down from any platform cant fire back at me while im able to shoot at them while im on the ground...wow what a easy kill dude....goddamn developers do not think.

only reason they did this to try to prevent bunnyhopping when there's other ways...but their plan actually backfired and hurt the gameplay.

I'm all for a little healthy realism when it comes to Killzone (I still don't see a reason to get excited about it), but you're complaining about something that we have no idea about in terms of implementation. It could be awful, sure, but it could just as easily be balanced out through other means. The fact is, we simply don't know.

Balance can be maintained through a lot of different, often subtle, means.

If GG don't fix this then...KZ1 confirmed :?

I hope they change the controls.

[QUOTE="RotaryRX7"]

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]All it means is tchbo. Sony keeps force feeding Guerilla Games money instead of locking up exclusives. Oh well, they'll get what they deserve. A flop and inferior multiplats.rockguy92

-GhostMLD-'s friend? :roll:

He said Ghost left him in charge when he was banned.

I'm not a lemming, but I do miss -GhostMLD-.

[QUOTE="RotaryRX7"]

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]All it means is tchbo. Sony keeps force feeding Guerilla Games money instead of locking up exclusives. Oh well, they'll get what they deserve. A flop and inferior multiplats.rockguy92

-GhostMLD-'s friend? :roll:

He said Ghost left him in charge when he was banned.

Are these people serious?

[QUOTE="rockguy92"][QUOTE="RotaryRX7"]

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]All it means is tchbo. Sony keeps force feeding Guerilla Games money instead of locking up exclusives. Oh well, they'll get what they deserve. A flop and inferior multiplats.Chutebox

-GhostMLD-'s friend? :roll:

He said Ghost left him in charge when he was banned.

Are these people serious?

I've seen SSCyborg say that before.

[QUOTE="rockguy92"][QUOTE="RotaryRX7"]

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]All it means is tchbo. Sony keeps force feeding Guerilla Games money instead of locking up exclusives. Oh well, they'll get what they deserve. A flop and inferior multiplats.Chutebox

-GhostMLD-'s friend? :roll:

He said Ghost left him in charge when he was banned.

Are these people serious?

System Wars is srs bsns.

[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="D3monchicken"][QUOTE="Nedemis"]

[QUOTE="Cedmln"]Does anyone else see the exageration in that preview? :lol:D3monchicken

If you had ever played the first one you'd understand this completely. :|

If you had ever played the first one you'd understand that it was quite easy to control and that you are lying completely :| I'm so tired of all these people faking that they have played the original, or even exaggerating its problems when they have played it.

What what what? I need to play a FPS title with great controls???? Like what? I've played Stalker, Crysis, Doom 3, Red Faction 1-2, Halo1-3, a billion ww2 games and a billion other first person shooters ranging from daikatana to chaser (JoWood **** me up with that ending.) to half life 1-2... I'm not claiming that Killzone had the best controls ever, but since I am not a complete moron, I found it extremely easy to use the controls that were set.

[QUOTE="rockguy92"][QUOTE="RotaryRX7"]

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]All it means is tchbo. Sony keeps force feeding Guerilla Games money instead of locking up exclusives. Oh well, they'll get what they deserve. A flop and inferior multiplats.Chutebox

-GhostMLD-'s friend? :roll:

He said Ghost left him in charge when he was banned.

Are these people serious?

They are series.

Killzone 2 gets tons of great previews,

Lemmings: All previews are positive, who cares??

Killzone 2 gets one bad preview,

Lemmings: Cow's where is your god? Killzone 2 is garbage.

Killzone 2 gets tons of great previews,

Lemmings: All previews are positive, who cares??

Killzone 2 gets one bad preview,

Lemmings: Cow's where is your god? Killzone 2 is garbage.

Gun_Haze

Actually, it's at least the second bad preview :)

But that's beside the point because almost all previews ARE positive. Remember all the great press that AITD received?

Killzone 2 gets tons of great previews,

Lemmings: All previews are positive, who cares??

Killzone 2 gets one bad preview,

Lemmings: Cow's where is your god? Killzone 2 is garbage.

Gun_Haze

Thinking the samething

And off topic, those shoes in your sig is hot

Sony needs to stop funding Guerrilla, seriously. There are much better devs out there.BioShockOwnz

Seriously, like SK!

ZZziiiinng!!!

Ugh.... sluggish controls make a good FPS game not.

I hope Guerrilla fixes this.

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Sony needs to stop funding Guerrilla, seriously. There are much better devs out there.BioShockOwnz

Seriously, like SK!

ZZziiiinng!!!

Yeah, cause SK's track record isn't much better than Guerilla's. Uh huh...:lol: :roll: Legacy of Kain and Eternal Darkness says hi!

Humor says hi! Try to lighten up there pal.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Sony needs to stop funding Guerrilla, seriously. There are much better devs out there.Chutebox

Seriously, like SK!

ZZziiiinng!!!

Yeah, cause SK's track record isn't much better than Guerilla's. Uh huh...:lol: :roll: Legacy of Kain and Eternal Darkness says hi!

Humor says hi! Try to lighten up there pal.

No thanks.

I'm just gonna come out and say what all the lemmings want to hear. This one negative single-paragraph preview of KZ2 is right on the money and the whole ton of thorough positive ones are completely full of s**t. There. Happy now? nervmeister

Lol, it's so true man. This site has somehow made me sick of previews.

Killzone 2 will flop like a fish out of water.ovechkin08

lol flipty flop

[QUOTE="RotaryRX7"]

[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]All it means is tchbo. Sony keeps force feeding Guerilla Games money instead of locking up exclusives. Oh well, they'll get what they deserve. A flop and inferior multiplats.rockguy92

-GhostMLD-'s friend? :roll:

He said Ghost left him in charge when he was banned.

Wasn't Ghost the lemming general? If he was, big victory for cows! :P

Sony needs to stop funding Guerrilla, seriously. There are much better devs out there.BioShockOwnz

lol sony themselves are better devs

I'm just gonna come out and say what all the lemmings want to hear. This one negative single-paragraph preview of KZ2 is right on the money and the whole ton of thorough positive ones are completely full of s**t. There. Happy now? nervmeister

No. Say it like you mean it. :P

Wait killzone 2 has no jumping, where the hell have i been?Animal-Mother

you can jump...but you cant jump shoot while jumping like call of duty

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=EOS8EQNW

May i point everyone attention to this video who is saying the game has sluggish controls. A dev named Motherh is playing in this video and it shows if someone who actually is GOOD or knows how to play games will control it will. Also anyone who is familiar with battlefield bad company that is that the games aiming looks like to me but smoother.

Well its an exclusive FPS game for a Playstation using the same controller, what do you expect.

If you want a console that perfected the FPS genre right to the very tips of its controllers, you know what console that is.

Jump In.

I'm just gonna come out and say what all the lemmings want to hear. This one negative single-paragraph preview of KZ2 is right on the money and the whole ton of thorough positive ones are completely full of s**t. There. Happy now? nervmeister

Don't remember the previews for the first Killzone, eh? They were all positive.

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=EOS8EQNW

May i point everyone attention to this video who is saying the game has sluggish controls. A dev named Motherh is playing in this video and it shows if someone who actually is GOOD or knows how to play games will control it will. Also anyone who is familiar with battlefield bad company that is that the games aiming looks like to me but smoother.

Sully28

You probably hear this all the time, but Kurt Cobain didn't create that quote in your sig. It was originally stated by Neil Young.

"Apparently, Killzone 2's controls are unintuitive and sluggish..."

Is a dual analog shooter, what else is new?

This bad news or any bad news doesn't change the fact that the hype for Killzone 2 remains 9.5, 9.0, AAAE.

Well its an exclusive FPS game for a Playstation using the same controller, what do you expect.

If you want a console that perfected the FPS genre right to the very tips of its controllers, you know what console that is.

ReverseCycology

Let me guess , the Wii ?

"Apparently, Killzone 2's controls are unintuitive and sluggish..."

Is a dual analog shooter, what else is new?

loco145

explain to me why i win online matches on unreal tournament 3 on pc everyones using keyboard and mouse and i use a 360 controller and still win?