Apparently most of you have forgotten what GOTY really means.

[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

What I don't get is the "Wii only has one good game" Arguement. I mean they said it when Wii had Zelda TP and now they say it again with Super Mario Galaxy.

Even by fanboy logic doesn't 1 + 1 = 2?

Blackbond

Well there's your problem.

Well at least we know they can't count haha.

I've seen too many Cows and Lemmings (mostly Lemmings) downplay the greatness that isthe GOTY award. If a Sheep brings up that the Wii has a GOTY award, their argument is always "but what else does it have"? Firstly, I dont know how many times this must be answered, so here are some good games worthy of a purchase off the top of my head:

Super Mario Galaxy (obviously)
Super Paper Mario
Zack and Wiki
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Trauma Center: New Blood
Medal of Honor: Heroes 2
Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition (by far the best version)
Warioware: Smooth Moves
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess

Now that the myth has beenlaid to rest, back to the matter at hand....

"GOTY" implies much more than what it has lately been given credit for. It implies that the game awarded it is, obviously, the best game released that year. Being that SMG is exclusive to Wii, the Wii possess' a game that provides the best gaming experience available on ANY console....that year (including PS3 and Xbox 360). It does mean any one console is better than the other, which is why I dont get why Cows and Lemmings (again, mostly Lemmings) are so defensive about it.

Now, you may disagree with SMG getting the GOTY award, but thats where the term "opinion" comes in. YOU may not agree with it, but because we are on Gamespot, we go by Gamespot's decisions. Sheep cried when Zelda:TP was "robbed" of AAA status, but in the end, it is our opinions, and because we're on Gamespot, we've comes to terms that it cannot be considered AAA.

So in the end, all I am asking is that Cows and Lemmings give credit where it's due.It's probally too much to ask, considering we're in System Wars, but hopefully we can findout who the intelligent people on these boards are. ;)

Miyomatic

How can you guys' even respect Gamespot's opinions? My three favorite reviewers have left Gamespot the past year or so. Their 2007 awards were a JOKE.MistaC4

It's THEIR opinion, you don't like it, then leave.

How can you guys' even respect Gamespot's opinions? My three favorite reviewers have left Gamespot the past year or so. Their 2007 awards were a JOKE.MistaC4

what made them a joke?

It's THEIR opinion, you don't like it, then leave.

-Karmum-

[QUOTE="-Karmum-"]

It's THEIR opinion, you don't like it, then leave.

MistaC4

You complain so much about how their opionion is a joke and the awards thing was a joke. So you want to make a joke, I'll make something obvious. Leave if you don't like it.

You complain so much about how their opionion is a joke and the awards thing was a joke. So you want to make a joke, I'll make something obvious. Leave if you don't like it.-Karmum-

[QUOTE="-Karmum-"]You complain so much about how their opionion is a joke and the awards thing was a joke. So you want to make a joke, I'll make something obvious. Leave if you don't like it.MistaC4

why don't you explain why you think the awards were a joke?

Ugh Mario Galaxy was all flash, honestly, Mario 64 still crushed it, I dont care if it had better graphics, or worlds, it was too easy, no reason to repeat it, little to nothing on Mario 64.

Mass Effect is my GOTY.... Mario Galaxy doesnt touch it, and Twilight princess was a real let down , I actually now understand why so many dont use thier Wiis for anything more than party entertainment.

GOTY is just one game , and that will never determine the bestsystem of that year alone.

Nike_Air

Here's the reasons why I felt it won (besides being a good game). Most of the GOTY nominees were shooters. Enough said. Galaxy just stood out from the crowd. The games that weren't FPS were GoWII, Forza, Rock Band and Crysis. GoWII was last gen and I doubt that GS would have given GOTY to a last gen console when things were so heated up and interesting between the PSWii60 gen. As for Forza and Rockband.. I'll just go ut and say it wasn't as deserving of the title as other titles. Can't comment on World in Conflict because I've never even heard of it up until I saw the nominations.Lyphe2k

wha?

Ugh Mario Galaxy was all flash, honestly, Mario 64 still crushed it, I dont care if it had better graphics, or worlds, it was too easy, no reason to repeat it, little to nothing on Mario 64.

Mass Effect is my GOTY.... Mario Galaxy doesnt touch it, and Twilight princess was a real let down , I actually now understand why so many dont use thier Wiis for anything more than party entertainment.

Meu2k7

First off, Twilight Princess came out in 2006, more than a year ago. Second, you haven't played Super Mario Galaxy, have you? Its quite a lot of gameplay. 9.5 music, 9.5 gameplay, 9.5 graphics, 9.5 length, 9.5 everything.

Ugh Mario Galaxy was all flash, honestly, Mario 64 still crushed it, I dont care if it had better graphics, or worlds, it was too easy, no reason to repeat it, little to nothing on Mario 64.

Mass Effect is my GOTY.... Mario Galaxy doesnt touch it, and Twilight princess was a real let down , I actually now understand why so many dont use thier Wiis for anything more than party entertainment.

Meu2k7

To you maybe, but dont act like its a bad game.

Definetly the best zelda.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ugh Mario Galaxy was all flash, honestly, Mario 64 still crushed it, I dont care if it had better graphics, or worlds, it was too easy, no reason to repeat it, little to nothing on Mario 64.

Mass Effect is my GOTY.... Mario Galaxy doesnt touch it, and Twilight princess was a real let down , I actually now understand why so many dont use thier Wiis for anything more than party entertainment.

Marth6781

To you maybe, but dont act like its a bad game.

Definetly the best zelda.

The only thing I didn't like about it was how it screwed with the Zelda timeline. Nobody can ever believe in a single timeline ever again.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ugh Mario Galaxy was all flash, honestly, Mario 64 still crushed it, I dont care if it had better graphics, or worlds, it was too easy, no reason to repeat it, little to nothing on Mario 64.

Mass Effect is my GOTY.... Mario Galaxy doesnt touch it, and Twilight princess was a real let down , I actually now understand why so many dont use thier Wiis for anything more than party entertainment.

Video_Game_King

First off, Twilight Princess came out in 2006, more than a year ago. Second, you haven't played Super Mario Galaxy, have you? Its quite a lot of gameplay. 9.5 music, 9.5 gameplay, 9.5 graphics, 9.5 length, 9.5 everything.

First off, I know ... I was just pointing out the other " Killer App" ... secondly , erm yes I have, I got bored at 79 stars ... I saw no purpose in playing anymore and the interesting side of it died shortly after seeing the majority of the worlds and deafeating bowser the 3rd time ... why the hell would I want to play as luigi?

LEnght 9.5? dont make me laugh ... and graphics ... but I agree on the rest.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ugh Mario Galaxy was all flash, honestly, Mario 64 still crushed it, I dont care if it had better graphics, or worlds, it was too easy, no reason to repeat it, little to nothing on Mario 64.

Mass Effect is my GOTY.... Mario Galaxy doesnt touch it, and Twilight princess was a real let down , I actually now understand why so many dont use thier Wiis for anything more than party entertainment.

Marth6781

To you maybe, but dont act like its a bad game.

Definetly the best zelda.

Ocarina of Time is still the best zelda, even on release Twilight Princess was outdated, terriblly, poor music/sound , most boring start of the entire series, the waggle combat was appauling, though shooting was better. Some of the dungeons were decent and boss battles, but there was nothing "whoa about it" ... something that should of existed on Gamecube release.

[QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ugh Mario Galaxy was all flash, honestly, Mario 64 still crushed it, I dont care if it had better graphics, or worlds, it was too easy, no reason to repeat it, little to nothing on Mario 64.

Mass Effect is my GOTY.... Mario Galaxy doesnt touch it, and Twilight princess was a real let down , I actually now understand why so many dont use thier Wiis for anything more than party entertainment.

Video_Game_King

To you maybe, but dont act like its a bad game.

Definetly the best zelda.

The only thing I didn't like about it was how it screwed with the Zelda timeline. Nobody can ever believe in a single timeline ever again.

Yea, the closet thing we have to a real timeline is the gametrailers retrospective. I never realized how deep the zelda timeline was untill I saw the vid.

I want nintendo to do a future zelda, but only if its good.

why don't you explain why you think the awards were a joke?

CaseyWegner

First off, in the nominations area. Halo 3 did not get nominated for "Best Original Music", and "Best Sound Design", and "Best Voice Acting". All areas in which the Halo series has excelled in and do great in. The soundtrack for Halo 3 is just simply a marvelous, interesting piece of work.Most impressive of all, though, is how dramatically the score plays out, which really makes a case for video game music tobe taken as seriously as anytraditional film score is.It had a good mix of the great old, and the new scores which make the Halo experience better overall.

Ace Combat 6, should have not been nominated for best graphics. The plane models are fanatstic, but that's it. Everything else, besides the missile effects and the view distance, is all mediocre. There are other better looking games out there that deserve to be nominated.

Halo 3 should have been nominated for best graphics, art style. The Halo design has always been in a unqiue colorful artstyle. Halo has never been known for having great technical graphics, but the art design in which Halo 3has a great compelling HDR, and crisp and sharp visuals should well deserve it a nomination for Best Graphics.

For Best Expansion pack, Medieval II: Total War Kingdoms should have been nominated. I don't care what you all say, the game is a pure masterpiece. It's more of the lines of four different games in one package. It's a game which has more replay value than Call of Duty 4, Crysis and SMG combined. And I was very dissapointed to see it not even nominated.

The Orange Box getting nominated where-ever. This is the biggest joke of all, I mean, if Bungie and Microsoft or some other company were to release a collection of games with maybe one new title, should it get reviewed as a stand-together package? The Orange Box is a great collection of games, but a Seperate review should have been made for each of the new games inside. The Collection as a whole should not have been nominated for whatever.

How Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 were robbed of best multiplayer. I own all three. It's a tie for me between Call of Duty 4 and Halo 3 being best multiplayer, but Rock Band beating both of them? I beg to differ along with mostly everything else looking at the poll results, Rock Band had the lowest percentage.

Now, for most improved sequal, I can't make a great call of this one, but what I know is that Call of Duty 3 was complete and utter garbage. Call of Duty 4 was leaps and bounds ahead of Call of Duty 3.

I don't really want to go through each and everyaward Casey, so there's my thoughts for the first few awards.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="Marth6781"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ugh Mario Galaxy was all flash, honestly, Mario 64 still crushed it, I dont care if it had better graphics, or worlds, it was too easy, no reason to repeat it, little to nothing on Mario 64.

Mass Effect is my GOTY.... Mario Galaxy doesnt touch it, and Twilight princess was a real let down , I actually now understand why so many dont use thier Wiis for anything more than party entertainment.

Marth6781

To you maybe, but dont act like its a bad game.

Definetly the best zelda.

The only thing I didn't like about it was how it screwed with the Zelda timeline. Nobody can ever believe in a single timeline ever again.

Yea, the closet thing we have to a real timeline is the gametrailers retrospective. I never realized how deep the zelda timeline was untill I saw the vid.

I want nintendo to do a future zelda, but only if its good.

Actually, I find that one to be horribly flawed (not just because it doesn't have games that weren't released then).

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ugh Mario Galaxy was all flash, honestly, Mario 64 still crushed it, I dont care if it had better graphics, or worlds, it was too easy, no reason to repeat it, little to nothing on Mario 64.

Mass Effect is my GOTY.... Mario Galaxy doesnt touch it, and Twilight princess was a real let down , I actually now understand why so many dont use thier Wiis for anything more than party entertainment.

Meu2k7

First off, Twilight Princess came out in 2006, more than a year ago. Second, you haven't played Super Mario Galaxy, have you? Its quite a lot of gameplay. 9.5 music, 9.5 gameplay, 9.5 graphics, 9.5 length, 9.5 everything.

First off, I know ... I was just pointing out the other " Killer App" ... secondly , erm yes I have, I got bored at 79 stars ... I saw no purpose in playing anymore and the interesting side of it died shortly after seeing the majority of the worlds and deafeating bowser the 3rd time ... why the hell would I want to play as luigi?

LEnght 9.5? dont make me laugh ... and graphics ... but I agree on the rest.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ugh Mario Galaxy was all flash, honestly, Mario 64 still crushed it, I dont care if it had better graphics, or worlds, it was too easy, no reason to repeat it, little to nothing on Mario 64.

Mass Effect is my GOTY.... Mario Galaxy doesnt touch it, and Twilight princess was a real let down , I actually now understand why so many dont use thier Wiis for anything more than party entertainment.

Marth6781

To you maybe, but dont act like its a bad game.

Definetly the best zelda.

Ocarina of Time is still the best zelda, even on release Twilight Princess was outdated, terriblly, poor music/sound , most boring start of the entire series, the waggle combat was appauling, though shooting was better. Some of the dungeons were decent and boss battles, but there was nothing "whoa about it" ... something that should of existed on Gamecube release.

TP was not outdated, music was much better than ocarina, all zeldas have boring starts and I liked the beg. of this zelda it was fun. The "waggle" made for a better experience than the GC version. The TP dungeons were all superior to the OOT ones. Also TP had MUCH better boss battles( debating this is futile). Fighting in the sky with a huge dragon was epic!

All in all its not a bad game and is better than OOT in every aspect. If OOT was given TP graphics and OOT and TP were put side by side on release TP would be the superior game by miles. Nostalgia is clouding your judgement of the superior game.

First off, I know ... I was just pointing out the other " Killer App" ... secondly , erm yes I have, I got bored at 79 stars ... I saw no purpose in playing anymore and the interesting side of it died shortly after seeing the majority of the worlds and deafeating bowser the 3rd time ... why the hell would I want to play as luigi?

LEnght 9.5? dont make me laugh ... and graphics ... but I agree on the rest.

Meu2k7

There are other killer apps. Zelda isn't the only one without Mario in the title. And you don't have it in your profile, making that a logical assumption. And the game is good enough to 100% twice with each character and keep playing (this coming from someone who beats a game and doesn't touch it again). And the game was quite lengthy. The challenge was perfect and didn't feel cheap. And the graphics are phenominal, unless you think that the Wii has built in super graphics chips that make it look better than life itself, in which case you'd be horribly misinformed.

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

First off, I know ... I was just pointing out the other " Killer App" ... secondly , erm yes I have, I got bored at 79 stars ... I saw no purpose in playing anymore and the interesting side of it died shortly after seeing the majority of the worlds and deafeating bowser the 3rd time ... why the hell would I want to play as luigi?

LEnght 9.5? dont make me laugh ... and graphics ... but I agree on the rest.

Video_Game_King

There are other killer apps. Zelda isn't the only one without Mario in the title. And you don't have it in your profile, making that a logical assumption. And the game is good enough to 100% twice with each character and keep playing (this coming from someone who beats a game and doesn't touch it again). And the game was quite lengthy. The challenge was perfect and didn't feel cheap. And the graphics are phenominal, unless you think that the Wii has built in super graphics chips that make it look better than life itself, in which case you'd be horribly misinformed.

Ive been meaning to add a Wii Tag, bit I dont where to get them :P

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

First off, I know ... I was just pointing out the other " Killer App" ... secondly , erm yes I have, I got bored at 79 stars ... I saw no purpose in playing anymore and the interesting side of it died shortly after seeing the majority of the worlds and deafeating bowser the 3rd time ... why the hell would I want to play as luigi?

LEnght 9.5? dont make me laugh ... and graphics ... but I agree on the rest.

Meu2k7

There are other killer apps. Zelda isn't the only one without Mario in the title. And you don't have it in your profile, making that a logical assumption. And the game is good enough to 100% twice with each character and keep playing (this coming from someone who beats a game and doesn't touch it again). And the game was quite lengthy. The challenge was perfect and didn't feel cheap. And the graphics are phenominal, unless you think that the Wii has built in super graphics chips that make it look better than life itself, in which case you'd be horribly misinformed.

Ive been meaning to add a Wii Tag, bit I dont where to get them :P

Then just settle for adding it to your collection.

I am thinking it means Game of the Year.

Apparently you are forgetting a something as well.

GotY is an opinion, just like reviews, and as such is not like some inarguable truth. BioShock, Halo 3, Ratchet & Clank, Crysis, and others all also won GotY from other review sites.

I love SMG, personally. I would not say its the best game this year, but that is my opinion, and unlike you, I don't try to force my opinion on to others.

SpruceCaboose

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

I am thinking it means Game of the Year.

Apparently you are forgetting a something as well.

GotY is an opinion, just like reviews, and as such is not like some inarguable truth. BioShock, Halo 3, Ratchet & Clank, Crysis, and others all also won GotY from other review sites.

I love SMG, personally. I would not say its the best game this year, but that is my opinion, and unlike you, I don't try to force my opinion on to others.

Erkidu

Lol? ok overall the TC is telling cows and lemmings to accept SMG as the best game this year. So. that means he's trying to force his opinion on others. No one has to accept SMG as the best game this year personally mass effect is my goty, do u have a problem with me not accepting SMG as goty? Also, you say that you wasn't under the impression that he was forcing his opinion on others. Well, it's obvious that his goty is SMG and judging by your sig SMG is goty for you aswell. so of course your going to agree with him. how about trying to look from the perspective of other people instead of your fellow "sheep" all the time.

zack and wiki is not purchasable if you're over the age of 2

and re:4 is a last gen port, why should i buy it again?

and trauma center is trash, have you played it through?

that leaves you with...

mario, zelda, warioware,metroid, some random crappy port medal of honor...

that pretty much defines the wii these days

[QUOTE="Erkidu"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

I am thinking it means Game of the Year.

Apparently you are forgetting a something as well.

GotY is an opinion, just like reviews, and as such is not like some inarguable truth. BioShock, Halo 3, Ratchet & Clank, Crysis, and others all also won GotY from other review sites.

I love SMG, personally. I would not say its the best game this year, but that is my opinion, and unlike you, I don't try to force my opinion on to others.

EazyD91

Lol? ok overall the TC is telling cows and lemmings to accept SMG as the best game this year. So. that means he's trying to force his opinion on others. No one has to accept SMG as the best game this year personally mass effect is my goty, do u have a problem with me not accepting SMG as goty? Also, you say that you wasn't under the impression that he was forcing his opinion on others. Well, it's obvious that his goty is SMG and judging by your sig SMG is goty for you aswell. so of course your going to agree with him. how about trying to look from the perspective of other people instead of your fellow "sheep" all the time.

zack and wiki is not purchasable if you're over the age of 2

and re:4 is a last gen port, why should i buy it again?

and trauma center is trash, have you played it through?

that leaves you with...

mario, zelda, warioware,metroid, some random crappy port medal of honor...

that pretty much defines the wii these days

mistervengeance

[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

zack and wiki is not purchasable if you're over the age of 2

and re:4 is a last gen port, why should i buy it again?

and trauma center is trash, have you played it through?

that leaves you with...

mario, zelda, warioware,metroid, some random crappy port medal of honor...

that pretty much defines the wii these days

Erkidu

i've played the game for about an hour. honestly. it's worse than freakin barney....

[QUOTE="hongkingkong"]GOTY? oh you must mean Crysis.Video_Game_King

Actually, its Super Mario Galaxy. From many publications. It didn't get any GOTY Awards (talking about Crysis here).

GOTY is an opinion. I don't know a single person that would put the game on their top 10 list. Last year more people would have agreed, but not me. 06 and 07 GOTYs for me were not very fun.Killer2401

i've played the game for about an hour. honestly. it's worse than freakin barney....

mistervengeance

Z&W's weakness is it's story and characters. it's strength is it's puzzles. if you like it like a puzzle game it's really good. I hated the lame story and characters too. It wasn't the adventure game that ppl touted. it was however a good puzzle game.

Ugh Mario Galaxy was all flash, honestly, Mario 64 still crushed it, I dont care if it had better graphics, or worlds, it was too easy, no reason to repeat it, little to nothing on Mario 64.

Mass Effect is my GOTY.... Mario Galaxy doesnt touch it, and Twilight princess was a real let down , I actually now understand why so many dont use thier Wiis for anything more than party entertainment.

Meu2k7

In SMG you get to go through another playthrough as Luigi.

As for difficulty...go back and play SM64.

it's not all that much harder at all.

Many of you are missing one of the points in my post. :?

We are on GAMESPOT, so although it was Gamespot's OPINION that SMG was GOTY,you must view it as GOTY even if you don't agree with GS's opinion. In other words, if you dont like it, go somewhere else. ;)

GOTY? oh you must mean Crysis.hongkingkong

Crysis wins the "All flash, no substance" award. :)

[QUOTE="Meu2k7"]

Ugh Mario Galaxy was all flash, honestly, Mario 64 still crushed it, I dont care if it had better graphics, or worlds, it was too easy, no reason to repeat it, little to nothing on Mario 64.

Mass Effect is my GOTY.... Mario Galaxy doesnt touch it, and Twilight princess was a real let down , I actually now understand why so many dont use thier Wiis for anything more than party entertainment.

Shinobishyguy

In SMG you get to go through another playthrough as Luigi.

As for difficulty...go back and play SM64.

it's not all that much harder at all.

The main reason SM64 could be considered difficult is because of the crap controls, physics, and camera angles.