Apple and iPhone is destroying gaming

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"] A turn based tile movement game plays well on touch? .... that is no suprizing at all... a NEs game that can run on windows 91? again no suprize...PC360Wii

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="rasengan2552"]well you're not factoring in the fact that the NES had a gamepad for navigation and a touch device just has surface acoustic wave (MUCH more difficult to design controls for).jtm33

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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"] No, it already exists... its not that difficult. to write from scratch? maybe ... but to make a tile based movement system with touch is down right simple... now come back when things like SONIC 4 actually feel good to play on phones... because it sure to hell doesnt.PC360Wii

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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"] No, it already exists... its not that difficult. to write from scratch? maybe ... but to make a tile based movement system with touch is down right simple... now come back when things like SONIC 4 actually feel good to play on phones... because it sure to hell doesnt.PC360Wii

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="jtm33"]That's like saying to make a way to play Scribblenauts comfortably with a gamepad. Sonic is suited to a gamepad not a touchscreen, and many games are suited to a touchscreen and not a gamepad.

rasengan2552

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"] Many? well .... some is more like it. KB/Mouse is the best allrounder no doubt, but these touch games are limited.PC360Wii

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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] one could argue that touch is more intuitive than a mouse, actually thats not even debatable. Touch is better.rasengan2552

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"] Who you? lol. come back when touch can play even half the genres.... come back when touch is business/industry/writing standard...red12355

No they're not. I fully support iPhone gaming. It will only continue to evolve and force handheld companies to change their old formula that no longer works. iPhones, Androids, and Windows Phones are better than handhelds for intermitant gaming while you're out and about. I play my handhelds when I'm home, and hardly take them with me unless I know I'll be waiting for hours somewhere, which isn't often.

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[QUOTE="jtm33"] He hasn't explained what he means apart from using terms like "TRUE SYSTEMS" and "TOUCHSCREENS CAN NEVER BE EXCEPTIONAL FOR GAMING." I mean, has he even used a DS before? And he mentions controls, as if you can't design a different game to suit the controls of the system.

jtm33

I haven't used a DS before? I have every handheld released in recent memory. What I mean by true gaming is with a traditional gamepad. Touchscreen gaming could never access the level of depth in a console game because of the limited controls. It can either by on-rails or a simplistic shooter like Nova.

DS also physical controls therefore your argument is invalid.

The problem isn't whether Iphone games are as good as traditional handheld games, it's whther they are good enough for handheld customers.

That's the real danger to handhelds, is that they're consumers aren't all gamers in the traditioinal sense, and phones can, and will, offer them an alternative that lets them not have an additional device to carry around.

How is it destroying gaming at all?

[QUOTE="red12355"][QUOTE="rasengan2552"]Gaming laptops prove that touch is viable for all genres.rasengan2552

Every day gaming is getting destroyed for some other reason. Yesterday it was Uncharted and cinematic gaming, today it is the iphone.

[QUOTE="red12355"][QUOTE="rasengan2552"]Gaming laptops prove that touch is viable for all genres.rasengan2552

It's actually you backwards gamers that are destroying gaming. Critiquingnew ideas in the gaming word (DS, Wii) and constantly hating on any games that achieve mainsteam success. It is YOU who thinks gaming is YOUR THING and selfishly want to keep it that way.

All YOU

How is it destroying gaming at all?

OB-47

Let me start by saying, I've played every AAA game on the iPhone and Android, I have every emulator on my Android. Vita and 3DS are TRUE handheld video game systems but iPhone gaming is just ridiculous, true i've had some fun on some games but they are nothing worth changing gaming like Apple says. I can't count how many times I've heard iPhone fans talk about how awesome so and so game is and how it's the best game they ever played and then they frown upon traditional gaming.

iPhone is a threat to 3DS and Vita and according to Epic Games, the next PS4 and X720. Touchscreens can NEVER be exceptional for gaming, the controls are just not there, it just doesn't work. Not only that, but we get simple games on iPhones that go for $0.99 and Apple says $30-$50 handheld games are worthless when they can get the same amount of fun for $0.99.

Anyone who agrees with them is just holding their hand killing traditional gaming with a control pad.

Blazerdt47

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[QUOTE="jtm33"] Bad controls are not the fault of the platform, they are a fault of trying to shoehorn a game for a platform that it is unsuitable for. Or for people willing to compromise on controls in exchange for other benefits like price and portability. Handheld games have their own market and ways to use. If they didn't and the only practical way to use them was identical to home consoles then they would be pointless. It turns out that handheld gaming is extremely popular. Why is that? When I play Advance Wars, I don't feel like I am compromising on anything. It is a compelling turn-based strategy that does not feel out of place on the DS. Handhelds do not get "big" games because they are not designed to be used that way. I am assuming you mean big budget games with high profile releases and a $100 price tag. That is not what handheld gaming is for, it is not competing with home consoles.jtm33

I can see handhelds are important for people that have to much free time in school or at work but sit home with a handheld when you can play Ps3/360 or PC i just laugh at...

This topic again.. -_-

I think us real "gamers" (mind you I don't believe there is a such thing as a "real gamer" but you know what I mean) know that touchscreen is not the future of handheld, at least we are hoping it doesn't become like that. Honestly, using touchscreen to play an entire game? I spose most of the junk on iPhone is cheap, simple minigames of which you can find identical clones for free at flash sites. Angry Birds is a huge example, I don't get the massive hype about it. Its not ingenius, I've seen a billion clones that existed beforehand.

Edit: I like how the touch screen is intregated on the DS/3DS. Like in OOT I can touch an icon to put on a mask or take out a bottle.

Smartphone gaming is just another emerging platform for gaming. I see no reason for hostility towards it. It'll coexist with handhelds much like the PC coexists with consoles.

Apple is the place for non gamers. .99 apps to kill time.

Hah who cares, handhelds can NEVER compete with the REAL gaming that is a homeconsole like 360/Ps3 connected to your TV.

aroxx_ab

Yeah.

Just like consoles can NEVER compete with the REAL gaming this PC with monstrous specs and high res, better 3D monitor and keyboard and mice.

What ever.

Touch screen, control pad, keyboard & mice, motion controls... it's all just different and more varied ways of interacting with your games.

Smartphone gaming is just another emerging platform for gaming. I see no reason for hostility towards it. It'll coexist with handhelds much like the PC coexists with consoles.

jun_aka_pekto

oh a few posters deep down inside do feel mobile gaming is a viable form of gaming, otherwise they wouldn't feel so threatened by it.

However this the right place for this kind of sentiment really. I'm expecting iOS and Android debates to be a common and major point here in SW...it's just a matter of time.

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Smartphone gaming is just another emerging platform for gaming. I see no reason for hostility towards it. It'll coexist with handhelds much like the PC coexists with consoles.

AdmiralBison

oh a few posters deep down inside do feel mobile gaming is a viable form of gaming, otherwise they wouldn't feel so threatened by it.

However this the right place for this kind of sentiment really. I'm expecting iOS and Android debates to be a common and major point here in SW...it's just a matter of time.

Apple and iPhone is destroying gamingBlazerdt47

iphone games are destroying gaming as much as Solitaire did back then.