apple over takes nintendo

the ipod os is 1 million away from passing the nintendo ds in market share. No matter what apples does it seems they take the market without breaking a sweat .

Too bad gaming is like its fifth function and it has no games

Too bad gaming is like its fifth function and it has no games

Cruse34

it has far more games then ds and psp put together. sadly like it or not apple is here to stay .

How is "one million away" "overtaking" Nintendo?

How is "one million away" "overtaking" Nintendo?

Bigboi500

because its going to apple within this year

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Too bad gaming is like its fifth function and it has no games

dontshackzmii

it has far more games then ds and psp put together. sadly like it or not apple is here to stay .

Okay lets compare the libaries of the DS vs. Ipod. Its no contest the PSP vs the Ipod is no contest as well

That's all well and good, but I found very little to play in terms of DS/PSP quality games. Though the FF re-releases interested me before I sold my iPhone.

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Too bad gaming is like its fifth function and it has no games

dontshackzmii

it has far more games then ds and psp put together. sadly like it or not apple is here to stay .

I have 15 pages of games on my iphone. All full versions. Almost all the "Best" games it has to offer. Other than plants v zombies and Dungeon Hunter i am so very very disapointed with the games.

Who would honestly consider somebody who owns solely an Ipod a gamer? bear in mind many of these "thousands of games" are crap like finger print scanners and mobile phone trackers (I have seen somebody on this very forum who thought this would be a legit app).

Who would get an IPod to begin with just for games? Aren't they for music only? I've played some of the games and they have almost no replay value.

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How is "one million away" "overtaking" Nintendo?

dontshackzmii

because its going to apple within this year

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

How is "one million away" "overtaking" Nintendo?

dontshackzmii

because its going to apple within this year

Then why does the thread title claim that already happened?

the ipod os is 1 million away from passing the nintendo ds in market share. No matter what apples does it seems they take the market without breaking a sweat .

dontshackzmii

[QUOTE="Cruse34"]

Too bad gaming is like its fifth function and it has no games

dontshackzmii

it has far more games then ds and psp put together. sadly like it or not apple is here to stay .

if you consider every damn crappy app a game, then sure, but for games with actual depth you need something else than an ipod

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the ipod os is 1 million away from passing the nintendo ds in market share. No matter what apples does it seems they take the market without breaking a sweat .

AdrianWerner

It is not a fair comparison, since there is no way to tell how many of the Apple device owner purchased the item for games, rather than for the other more important fuctions, like phone calls, music, etc.

Who would honestly consider somebody who owns solely an Ipod a gamer? bear in mind many of these "thousands of games" are crap like finger print scanners and mobile phone trackers (I have seen somebody on this very forum who thought this would be a legit app).

SapSacPrime

They separate those apps by labeling them "Entertainment" and not "Games".

As for the topic, it's very interesting that iOS devices have grown such an install base in a small time frame, but let's be fair. Not every one buying an iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad is gaming on the devices. Everyone who buys a DS buys it for gaming. And while iOS gaming revenue has exploded in the past 2 years, it still has a long way to go to catch up to DS software revenue. And that's what Developers care about.

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the ipod os is 1 million away from passing the nintendo ds in market share. No matter what apples does it seems they take the market without breaking a sweat .

osan0

It's similiar to PC, when compared to consoles they dwarf them in sales tenfold at least. While in reality even if you would consider pc gaming to be bigger, it's not as big as pure hardware sales would tell you.

Jobs says the company has sold more than 275 million iPods, with 120 million of those being iOS devices. Nintendo reports it has sold more than 132 million units of its Nintendo DS since launch with Sony claiming to have sold more than 60 million PSPs over its lifetime.

Source

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Too bad gaming is like its fifth function and it has no games

dontshackzmii

it has far more games then ds and psp put together. sadly like it or not apple is here to stay .

Sadly most of those games aren't as good.

jasonharris48

That's true, at least for most core gamer. But when you have over 30,000 games you can still have a nice library of quality titles in there. Including a growing number of DS and PSP games that have been ported over...

You can't use the term "market share" when they're not in the same market.

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the ipod os is 1 million away from passing the nintendo ds in market share. No matter what apples does it seems they take the market without breaking a sweat .

osan0

I doubt many DS users upgrade. I think Nintendo releases DS refreshes with the intent to get new people on board rather than get existing people to upgrade.

When Apple releases a new iPod Touch, it's a new system with an upgraded SoC and a couple new features. When Nintendo releases a DS refresh, it still uses mostly the same internals--maybe some extra RAM and slightly faster processor that only specific games can utilize--but it's just some feature additions like a camera or bigger screen. For a lot of DS owners, it's not a compelling upgrade.

I hope this is not a trend to see

apple fanboys on systemwars

How can Nintendo be overtaken in a market that its not even competing in?

And since when have the iPhone's been dedicated gaming devices? Even the PSP is a few steps closer to being a traditional handheld gaming device than the iPhone.

[QUOTE="osan0"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]lol...iOs devices sold doesn't translate to market share directly:] You do realize typical user already upgraded at least once or twice?

AdrianWerner

It's similiar to PC, when compared to consoles they dwarf them in sales tenfold at least. While in reality even if you would consider pc gaming to be bigger, it's not as big as pure hardware sales would tell you.

I hope this is not a trend to see

apple fanboys on systemwars

OmegaTau

False:

Jobs: More than 120 Million iOS devices shipped.

Nintendo: More than 125 million DSes shipped.

Source.

Note that Apple's numbers include iOS devices that are not longer supported and cannot run the lattest games. Would be like Nintendo including GBA numbers... Anyway: DS alone > WHole iOS family.

[QUOTE="osan0"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]lol...iOs devices sold doesn't translate to market share directly:] You do realize typical user already upgraded at least once or twice?

Einhanderkiller

I doubt many DS users upgrade. I think Nintendo releases DS refreshes with the intent to get new people on board rather than get existing people to upgrade.

When Apple releases a new iPod Touch, it's a new system with an upgraded SoC and a couple new features. When Nintendo releases a DS refresh, it still uses mostly the same internals--maybe some extra RAM and slightly faster processor that only specific games can utilize--but it's just some feature additions like a camera or bigger screen. For a lot of DS owners, it's not a compelling upgrade.

Too bad its not in the same market.

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Too bad gaming is like its fifth function and it has no games

it has far more games then ds and psp put together. sadly like it or not apple is here to stay .

My Droid X plays all SNES, Genesis, GBA and PSX games...to me that crushes an ipod and a DS combined. MiddleFingerU

You do know that's a device that's not meant play games and more than 3/4 of it's users don't play games on it, right?

What a cheap shot at Nintendo.....

I'll take a true gaming device over an overpriced piece of junk that's bad at doing what it was made for (music.) It's sound quality is so horrible even with a good set of quality earbuds.

Oh, and I like having buttons.

because every Ipod sold is from a gamer right ? And people buy a DS to listen to mp3s

if were counting the ipod OS to only the nintendo ds, then why dont we count all of the gameboys? consoles? other handhelds then as well. Apple doesn't even come close. Apple loves putting a play on words to make themselves seem the best. Im sure over half of the ipods are very old and not even used.

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Too bad gaming is like its fifth function and it has no games

dontshackzmii

it has far more games then ds and psp put together. sadly like it or not apple is here to stay .

In other news bread out sold confetti this year.

an ipod is a MP3 player, a DS is a game system.

Too bad gaming is like its fifth function and it has no games

Cruse34

NEED FOR SPEED SHIFT

GT Racing

Asphalt 5

Speed Forge Extreme

Low Grav Racer

Phaze

Super Monkey Ball!

Jet Car Stunts

Driver

Crash Course-

Guerilla Bob

Alive4ever

Mini Gore

iDracula

Ghouls and Garters

Space Invaders: Infinity Gene

Siberian Strike

Archetype

N.O.V.A: Near Orbit Vanguard Alliance

Brothers in Arms 2: Global Front

COD: Zombies

Modern Combat: Sandstorm

Doom Resurrection

Brothers In Arms: Hour Of Heroes

Duke Nukem 3D

Eliminate Pro

Resident Evil 4

RE Degeneration

Zombie Infection---

Splinter Cell Conviction--

Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2--

Backbreaker

Fifa--from EA

Real Soccer 09---

Real Tennis

Homerun Battle---

Pix'n Love Rush

Dark Void Zero-

Earthworm Jim-

Rolando 1--

Rolando 2--

Katamari-

Canabalt-Frenzied platforming, how far do you think you can run?

Spider- The Secret of Bryce Manor--

Squareball--

Doodle Jump --

I dig it ---

Fruit Ninja

Ace Combat--jet fighter simulation on iPhone.

Flick Fishing. Surprisingly feature-packed Fishing Sim with level and tackle-box unlocks, great graphics and accelerometer and touch interface usage. Great office time-waster.

SimCity.-Another big name game.

Sims 3-

Mission: Deep Sea-

Command & Conquer: Red Alert-

Rise of lost empires-

Warfare Incorporated-

Galcon for iPhone.--Bluetooth/WiFi/3G online multiplayer for up to 4 players. Extremely fast paced and addictin

Art Of War 2--

The Settlers--

Westward--

Worms--

Bruice Lee Dragon Warrior--

Blades of Fury.---

Street Fighter---

WWE Wrestling.--

Spider Man - Total Mayhem-

Gangstar: West Coast Hustle--

GTA Chinatown Wars

Simpsons Arcade-

Tehra Dark Warrior

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Broken Sword--for iPhone. DS port. Best utilization of touch interface thus far. Even over Monkey Island.

Monkey Island

Beneath A Steel Sky Remastered

Crimson Gem Saga

CHAOS RINGS- SquareEnix iPhone exclusive

Ravensword: The Fallen King

Dungeon Hunter-

Zenonia-

SEED--

Chronicles of Inotia

Hybrid Eternal Whisper

Song Summoner: The Unsung Heroes-

Zen Bound-

Bejeweled-

Tap Tap Revenge-

Nintaii---(just like bloxorz but with a ying-yang ring to it)

Cogs--

Crazy Machines--The award winning PC and Nintendo DS franchise is now available for your iPhone and iPod Touch.

Words With Friends--

Catch a mouse--

Enigmo--

Angry Birds

GeoDefense--

Plants Vs Zombies

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Too bad gaming is like its fifth function and it has no games

Omni-Gamer-

MASSIVE WALL OF IMAGES

For the love of god put spoiler tags around that

The iPod/iPhone are the same thing. They both play the same games.

The iPod/iPhone not only has a lot of the same games as the DS, but they cost 1/4th of the price as well to download. Assassins creed 1 and 2 scored higher on the iPod/iPhone than their DS counterparts due to better graphics and added extras, yet it only cost 5 dollars to download. GTA Chinatown wars also scored higher on the iPhone due to sharper graphics and faster loading times, yet only costs 9 dollars to download. Cooking Mama is the same game on the iPhone, yet also costs a fraction of its cartridge based DS counterpart.

Square Enix has an EXCLUSIVE final fantasy game on the iPhone called Chaos Rings, it looks better than Final Fantasy 8.

SEGA is releasing Sonic 4, WITH EXCLUSIVE iPhone/iPod levels and content. No other system is receiving exclusive levels and/or content.

Epic has revealed a new game called Project Sword, and ID is releasing Rage, both are games that exceed even the PSP graphics by a long shot.

The iPhone/iPod have built in accelerometers, gyroscopes, GPS, microphones, forward and rear facing cameras and a multi-touch screen to accomodate gaming features.

Nintendo at their E3 presentation in their own words have chosen to ignore Sony and Microsoft and are now focusing on competing with Apple. Those are their own words.

Apple snuck into the gaming industry through the backdoor, and the biggest videogame company in the world has recognized them as a bigger threat than Sony.

Irregardless of the iPhone being a phone, and the iPod being a music player, they have evolved into something that millions of gamers are now enjoying. They are do-it-all devices that also happen to have games that rival the DS and PSP, and in some cases, even outperform.