Archery in WSR and the wand were identical...

Heres an important point no one has even mentioned in regards to the xbox and PS3 motion (more so to natal). Actually i think the PS3 will have it.

This is Forcefeedback/rumble. I mean i think Natal is a great idea but imagine playing a racing game and when you crash, the control wont rumble since you dont have one. And for fighting games, although your hitting something on the screen, it will feel weird in real life since you will be just going through air.

The Wii kind of compensates for this with slight rumble, where on impact, the controller will shake. I think because of this it will make Natal and maybe the sony wand very very limited in the amount of genres it can do.

Anyway i do agree with you, i too thought they were pretty much identical. I dont know where Cows got the notion that their motion was far superior to Wii+.

error_202

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

I don't know. The guy at the PS3 conference was aiming all over the place. He couldn't keep his bow still for a second.

At least he was shooting the undead...more interesting than targets.

Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"][QUOTE="ReaperV7"]the playstation motion controller looked more responsive and precise judging by the demonstrations. The wiimote still relies on a sensor bar which limits your playing field unlike the playstation motion controller where you can move around in the room your in while moving around in the game world, simply because its using similar technology to what they use for motion capture in hollywood. ReaperV7

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

[QUOTE="ReaperV7"]the playstation motion controller looked more responsive and precise judging by the demonstrations. The wiimote still relies on a sensor bar which limits your playing field unlike the playstation motion controller where you can move around in the room your in while moving around in the game world, simply because its using similar technology to what they use for motion capture in hollywood. ReaperV7

No it doesn't. Waggle uses no part of the sensor bar.

I don't know whay people complain about the wiimote when they have no idea how it works...

[QUOTE="error_202"]

Heres an important point no one has even mentioned in regards to the xbox and PS3 motion (more so to natal). Actually i think the PS3 will have it.

This is Forcefeedback/rumble. I mean i think Natal is a great idea but imagine playing a racing game and when you crash, the control wont rumble since you dont have one. And for fighting games, although your hitting something on the screen, it will feel weird in real life since you will be just going through air.

The Wii kind of compensates for this with slight rumble, where on impact, the controller will shake. I think because of this it will make Natal and maybe the sony wand very very limited in the amount of genres it can do.

Anyway i do agree with you, i too thought they were pretty much identical. I dont know where Cows got the notion that their motion was far superior to Wii+.

nintendo-4life

Get ready for lemmings to start saying "rumble is last gen!"

jk

But yeah, Natal is supposed to bring realism but without some sort of rumble or forcefeedback then its less realistic than the Wiimote.

In an FPS you can use the Wii controller as a gun, when it shoots, it will feel like clips are falling out, you can hear the sound from the controlleretc. But i mean with Natal, just holding air that doesnt feel, look or sound like a gun is kinda lame. Probably better accuracy but at the cost of immersion.

Thats why i overall believe Natal wont be used more than a few tech demos and mini-games. I love mini-games so thats cool with me.

We can talk about both now, but reality states the glowing ball wand (that thing is so so wrong >.> ) will take a year to arrive.
It will have a year of fun to catch up on. GL.

errrrr...you guys do know you're comparing a prototype to a full retail game right?

Sony showed a tech demo of archery and you're comparing it to an archery game in Wii Sports Resort

The reason it shook so much is because the guys hands were shaking, obviously...they didn't calibrate the sensitivity at all for that as its a prototype!

errrrr...you guys do know you're comparing a prototype to a full retail game right?

Sony showed a tech demo of archery and you're comparing it to an archery game in Wii Sports Resort

The reason it shook so much is because the guys hands were shaking, obviously...they didn't calibrate the sensitivity at all for that as its a prototype!

cheapness1

[QUOTE="ReaperV7"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

No it doesn't. Waggle uses no part of the sensor bar.

I don't know whay people complain about the wiimote when they have no idea how it works...

Ontain

[QUOTE="Ontain"][QUOTE="ReaperV7"] oh crap i forgot that neither the wiimote or the ps motion controller point when using the bow....my bad...but the sensor bar still is dated technology. nintendo-4life

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]

[QUOTE="Ontain"] you realize that it's the same basic idea as the sony one. the wand balls are the IR sources (or whatever they are emitting) and the camera is doing the same thing that the wiimote camera is doing in terms of motion sensing. however the senor bar provides 2 points of reference while the wand is only 1 so pointing would need a combination of the accelerometer and camera. in terms of an fps I see the sensor bar scheme working better.KungfuKitten

The difference is quite obvious. In Wii Sportsthey shooted targets, in the Sony tech demo they shooted stone zombie warrior things.

Sony's motion control is exactly the same technology used to make movie's CGI the only new thing that they did is making it work without blue screen.

Sony's motion control is exactly the same technology used to make movie's CGI the only new thing that they did is making it work without blue screen.

Kashiwaba

Well it works like the motion tracking system that is often used to make CG characters in movies and games seem more realistic. That has never needed a bluescreen. What is different here is that they've accomplished it with just one camera. Usually you need several at different angles.

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"] I don't think it's IR because if that was the case then it would pick up everything such as candles and such... No i believe it's some different technology. But yeah the effect is the same.

nintendo-4life

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"] such as?nintendo-4life

I don't know. The guy at the PS3 conference was aiming all over the place. He couldn't keep his bow still for a second.

At least he was shooting the undead...more interesting than targets.