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#51 jun_aka_pekto
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Are consoles really holding back PC?

I don't think so. Why? It's because there are legions of PCs being hobbled by crappy integrated graphics. Who's to say those underpowered PCs aren't to blame? I've seen enough PC gamers trying to game on underpowered desktops and laptops. If there's going to be blame, then the owners of those "crappy" PCs are to blame as well.

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#52 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"] no uthemajormayor

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#53 PAL360
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Yes, but this gen consoles proved to be very future proof (7 years into the gen and 360/PS3 games still look good for any standards). I think console gens shouldnt last more than 5 years though.

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#54 themajormayor
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#55 mitu123
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All of the games you mentioned were on consoles tho (except AVP2)...

And I thought Oblivion was better than Morrowind.

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BF2 and Crysis Warhead aren't on consoles as well!

Yea, but to be honest I think the design decisions in BF3 and C2 have more to do with trying to appeal to CoD players than anything.

Also, I don't think BF2 was much better than BF3 but that's me.

IMO BF2 had better maps and more emphasis on teamwork, Commander also helped with that.:D

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#56 lundy86_4
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#58 ionusX
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lundy way to drop the dime on majormayor.. now if only this happemned more often and lulz at major being more ignorant than a brony LOLOLOLOL (no offence lundy)

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#59 themajormayor
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#60 themajormayor
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now if only this happemned more oftenionusX
Exactly. Cause it's very rare. I have in fact never seen it.
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#61 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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Alan Wake when it was shown for the PC in 06 looked great, but when it became an xbox game it was nowhere near as good. So I'm going to say yes.

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#62 lundy86_4
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#63 ionusX
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[QUOTE="ionusX"]now if only this happemned more oftenthemajormayor
Exactly. Cause it's very rare. I have in fact never seen it.

my god you beat him so bad he skipped the burn and went right to denial.. bwahahaah majormayor you sir got royally owned. here let me spell it out for you IN SONG!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idpJej8EbeY

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#64 themajormayor
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#65 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="ionusX"]now if only this happemned more oftenionusX

Exactly. Cause it's very rare. I have in fact never seen it.

my god you beat him so bad he skipped the burn and went right to denial.. bwahahaah majormayor you sir got royally owned. here let me spell it out for you IN SONG!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idpJej8EbeY

The only one owned here is you. I almost consider myself half hermit. I just like to troll hermits since, well, alot of them are douches.
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#66 lundy86_4
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#67 themajormayor
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#68 Cranler
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Are consoles really holding back PC?

I don't think so. Why? It's because there are legions of PCs being hobbled by crappy integrated graphics. Who's to say those underpowered PCs aren't to blame? I've seen enough PC gamers trying to game on underpowered desktops and laptops. If there's going to be blame, then the owners of those "crappy" PCs are to blame as well.

jun_aka_pekto
lol. Are you saying everyone had uber rigs back in the days when graphics were constantly improving. Is it just a coincidence that the last time cod got a major graphics update was when the 360 launched
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#69 Cranler
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Alan Wake when it was shown for the PC in 06 looked great, but when it became an xbox game it was nowhere near as good. So I'm going to say yes.

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yep,alan wake was supposed to be the next crysis so to speak.
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#70 04dcarraher
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Most multiplatform games are designed to work on the lowest common denominator. Which means consoles, they are the primary focus, and depending on the dev's you might see some additions made to the PC version. If consoles had more processing power and most importantly more memory you would see much better graphic and artistic detail and creative game design's for games. Current consoles are stuck with linear, cell loaded, designs because the lack of memory.
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#71 Maneil99
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[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Are consoles really holding back PC?

I don't think so. Why? It's because there are legions of PCs being hobbled by crappy integrated graphics. Who's to say those underpowered PCs aren't to blame? I've seen enough PC gamers trying to game on underpowered desktops and laptops. If there's going to be blame, then the owners of those "crappy" PCs are to blame as well.

Cranler

lol. Are you saying everyone had uber rigs back in the days when graphics were constantly improving. Is it just a coincidence that the last time cod got a major graphics update was when the 360 launched

That was the last time COD got an engine update duh... Tons of games have improved there visuals on consoles. Tell me why PC exlusives arent mind blowing next gen all to the king games?

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yes and no, Graphics wise, **** no, you can just upscale all the assets on PC and add more particle effects to your hearts content. Mechanics wise, maybe, Most games are dseigned around a 512mb footprint with assets they can fit... but I have yet to play anything as awesome as demon souls and dark souls on pc, the multiplayer aspects of the game is some of the best innovation I've seen in gaming for quite some time, the area is awesome to explore (if you can see it you can likely go there...). Whats really holding back PC's is developers making console games that want to sell screen shots, everything gets toned down in favor of being able to take a good screen shot. Levels are smaller to make room for more assets, effects are **** (health gun in kz2? lolnades in uncharted)

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#73 Bigboi500
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Of course they are, and I'm not even a PC gamer.

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#74 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

Are consoles really holding back PC?

I don't think so. Why? It's because there are legions of PCs being hobbled by crappy integrated graphics. Who's to say those underpowered PCs aren't to blame? I've seen enough PC gamers trying to game on underpowered desktops and laptops. If there's going to be blame, then the owners of those "crappy" PCs are to blame as well.

Maneil99

lol. Are you saying everyone had uber rigs back in the days when graphics were constantly improving. Is it just a coincidence that the last time cod got a major graphics update was when the 360 launched

That was the last time COD got an engine update duh... Tons of games have improved there visuals on consoles. Tell me why PC exlusives arent mind blowing next gen all to the king games?

Multiplatforming nature of this gen and long life of direct x 9, "pixel shader 3" usage. All you need to look at pc exclusives and you can see great graphics beyond current console graphics, "next generation" all it means is better graphics and abilities then the generation before there is no set standard. Pc focused games is already next generation aka direct x 11

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#75 04dcarraher
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yes and no, Graphics wise, **** no, you can just upscale all the assets on PC and add more particle effects to your hearts content. Mechanics wise, maybe, Most games are dseigned around a 512mb footprint with assets they can fit... but I have yet to play anything as awesome as demon souls and dark souls on pc, the multiplayer aspects of the game is some of the best innovation I've seen in gaming for quite some time, the area is awesome to explore (if you can see it you can likely go there...). Whats really holding back PC's is developers making console games that want to sell screen shots, everything gets toned down in favor of being able to take a good screen shot. Levels are smaller to make room for more assets, effects are **** (health gun in kz2? lolnades in uncharted)

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you need to look harder if you havent seen innovation and fresh ideas on Pc.
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#76 sailor232
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When you see average Joe Blog making graphical enhancement mods to most games on pc, Yes, Id say consoles are holding back the pc.