Are Lemmings really not concerned about their privacy and rights?

If you buy the Xbone, Microsoft is able to monitor you and your relatives every moment you are in the living room and collect data that they could use to sell to advertisers or that can even be used by the government. Currently the Xbone:

• Has the ability to identify individual people who are in the room by name (and will ask them if it does not have there name on file)

• Wants to be the center of your world. Wants all your media (and possibly internet) to pass through it

• Has the ability to monitor heart rate and facial expressions

• Has vocal recognition and assumedly full on speech-to-text capability.

"The Kinect camera is capable of scanning a room and using its facial recognition software to detect foreign users. If Kinect detects someone it does not recognize, it then audibly asks this person to identify themselves. Once this is done, the Kinect saves the information to the console"

 Do your rights and privacy really mean nothing to you? Forget used games and being always online for a second, what about basic morality?

Lemmings lost their rights the second they justified paying for XBLBPoole96

Nah its just rumors from butthurt cows.  As opposed to Sony who actually put malware on people's PCs to spy on them.

Lemmings lost their rights the second they justified paying for XBLBPoole96

Nah its just rumors from butthurt cows.  As opposed to Sony who actually put malware on people's PCs to spy on them.

jimmypsn

What rumors? Kinect is a rumor? I think the question of wether Microsoft WILL use the data collected by Kinect to their advantage is irrelevant. The fact is, they CAN do so.

[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

Nah its just rumors from butthurt cows.  As opposed to Sony who actually put malware on people's PCs to spy on them.

argetlam00

What rumors? Kinect is a rumor? I think the question of wether Microsoft WILL use the data collected by Kinect to their advantage is irrelevant. The fact is, they CAN do so.

Do you have a phone with a camera on it.  You worried Apple or Google spying on you?  Like I said.  More crying.

Are you not worried about your privacy with the PS3 eyetoy?

Or your smart phone?

Or giving out information over the internet?

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]

Nah its just rumors from butthurt cows.  As opposed to Sony who actually put malware on people's PCs to spy on them.

jimmypsn

What rumors? Kinect is a rumor? I think the question of wether Microsoft WILL use the data collected by Kinect to their advantage is irrelevant. The fact is, they CAN do so.

Do you have a phone with a camera on it.  You worried Apple or Google spying on you?  Like I said.  More crying.

:| I really think you should read what Kinect does one more time.

MS is concerned about customers privacy and would never do anything to betray that. http://news.softpedia.com/news/Forget-about-the-WGA-20-Windows-Vista-Features-and-Services-Harvest-User-Data-for-Microsoft-58752.shtmlHeil68

Lems are unique creatures, the first organic life form that has no life... why should they be concerned?

Are you not worried about your privacy with the PS3 eyetoy?

 

Or your smart phone?

 

Or giving out information over the internet?

 

mems_1224

I don't use the eyetoy and I don't recall it ever saving user data it collects on the system. Of course, my console still works without the eyetoy plugged in.

Lemmings lost their rights the second they justified paying for XBLBPoole96

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

Are you not worried about your privacy with the PS3 eyetoy?

 

Or your smart phone?

 

Or giving out information over the internet?

 

argetlam00

I don't use the eyetoy and I don't recall it ever saving user data it collects on the system. Of course, my console still works without the eyetoy plugged in.

Lemmings lost their rights the second they justified paying for XBLBPoole96

^^^

If Microsoft wants to watch me sit in my underwear and play Battlefield then thay can go right ahead. I dont know why anybody would want to watch that.

People do realize that the PS4 is shipping with a camera right? You guys are so uninformed.

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

Are you not worried about your privacy with the PS3 eyetoy?

 

Or your smart phone?

 

Or giving out information over the internet?

 

mems_1224

I don't use the eyetoy and I don't recall it ever saving user data it collects on the system. Of course, my console still works without the eyetoy plugged in.

Since when did the PS4 require the eyetoy be plugged in to work? The entire issue here is that the surveillance system microsoft has implemented CANNOT be turned off. It is always watching, always listening.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

I don't use the eyetoy and I don't recall it ever saving user data it collects on the system. Of course, my console still works without the eyetoy plugged in.

argetlam00

Since when did the PS4 require the eyetoy be plugged in to work? The entire issue here is that the surveillance system microsoft has implemented CANNOT be turned off. It is always watching, always listening.

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] meant the PS4 one. my bad. mems_1224

Since when did the PS4 require the eyetoy be plugged in to work? The entire issue here is that the surveillance system microsoft has implemented CANNOT be turned off. It is always watching, always listening.

Will that work? If that works, why would Microsoft even create the requirement that the Kinect must be connected to the system for the console to function? I have a feeling that if a human isn't within vision of Kinect it wont even run. That is why it asks a foreign user to identify himself and record their info.

You do realize this is an entertainment system right? You're not obliged to own one, it's completely optional. ShoulderOfOrion

That is irrelevant. A product released on the market under no circumstance should be violating your right to privacy. They are going to have a lot of trouble in the European Union, where the law states that any monitoring system must have the ability to be turned off.

If Microsoft wants to watch me sit in my underwear and play Battlefield then thay can go right ahead. I dont know why anybody would want to watch that.

People do realize that the PS4 is shipping with a camera right? You guys are so uninformed.

 

 

 

 

Miketheman83

You do realize this is an entertainment system right? You're not obliged to own one, it's completely optional. ShoulderOfOrion

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Since when did the PS4 require the eyetoy be plugged in to work? The entire issue here is that the surveillance system microsoft has implemented CANNOT be turned off. It is always watching, always listening.

argetlam00

Will that work? If that works, why would Microsoft even create the requirement that the Kinect must be connected to the system for the console to function? I have a feeling that if a human isn't within vision of Kinect it wont even run. That is why it asks a foreign user to identify himself and record their info.

Ohhhhh noooooo!!!  Run TC.  MS is after you.  Runnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!

If Microsoft wants to watch me sit in my underwear and play Battlefield then thay can go right ahead. I dont know why anybody would want to watch that.

People do realize that the PS4 is shipping with a camera right? You guys are so uninformed.

 

 

 

 

Miketheman83

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] throw a tshirt on it. problem solvedjimmypsn

Will that work? If that works, why would Microsoft even create the requirement that the Kinect must be connected to the system for the console to function? I have a feeling that if a human isn't within vision of Kinect it wont even run. That is why it asks a foreign user to identify himself and record their info.

Ohhhhh noooooo!!!  Run TC.  MS is after you.  Runnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, clearly one Microsoft fan is not concerned that Microsoft can be monitoring and collecting data on him, his entire family and his friends.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Since when did the PS4 require the eyetoy be plugged in to work? The entire issue here is that the surveillance system microsoft has implemented CANNOT be turned off. It is always watching, always listening.

argetlam00

Will that work? If that works, why would Microsoft even create the requirement that the Kinect must be connected to the system for the console to function? I have a feeling that if a human isn't within vision of Kinect it wont even run. That is why it asks a foreign user to identify himself and record their info.

People are overreacting to the kinect stuff just like all the other X1 things. I prefer to wait and see how everything works out instead of blowing my load to early and making a big deal out of nothing.

You do realize this is an entertainment system right? You're not obliged to own one, it's completely optional. ShoulderOfOrion

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"] throw a tshirt on it. problem solvedmems_1224

Will that work? If that works, why would Microsoft even create the requirement that the Kinect must be connected to the system for the console to function? I have a feeling that if a human isn't within vision of Kinect it wont even run. That is why it asks a foreign user to identify himself and record their info.

People are overreacting to the kinect stuff just like all the other X1 things. I prefer to wait and see how everything works out instead of blowing my load to early and making a big deal out of nothing.

When I access google maps on my cellphone, it asks permission to get my current location. I GIVE it permission to do so. I cannot stop the Kinect from monitoring me as it is now. If I disconnect it, my system will not run. That is not acceptable.

Every time we go through an advancement in technology this same topic is going to appear. shadowchronicle

How many new threads do we have to have over several hours on the same topic?lamprey263

Your sig is disturbing and repulsive and offensive.

[QUOTE="shadowchronicle"]Every time we go through an advancement in technology this same topic is going to appear. mems_1224

Ok, so lets say a few years in the future everyone starts doing this shit. WHy not, its great advertising opprounity. Your fridge will collect the type of food you store and pass it on to advertisers who will then advertise you the food you like. It goes on and on. If you want your entire life monitored by corporations I don't know WTF is wrong with you.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Will that work? If that works, why would Microsoft even create the requirement that the Kinect must be connected to the system for the console to function? I have a feeling that if a human isn't within vision of Kinect it wont even run. That is why it asks a foreign user to identify himself and record their info.

argetlam00

People are overreacting to the kinect stuff just like all the other X1 things. I prefer to wait and see how everything works out instead of blowing my load to early and making a big deal out of nothing.

When I access google maps on my cellphone, it asks permission to get my current location. I GIVE it permission to do so. I cannot stop the Kinect from monitoring me as it is now. If I disconnect it, my system will not run. That is not acceptable.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="shadowchronicle"]Every time we go through an advancement in technology this same topic is going to appear. argetlam00

Ok, so lets say a few years in the future everyone starts doing this shit. WHy not, its great advertising opprounity. Your fridge will collect the type of food you store and pass it on to advertisers who will then advertise you the food you like. It goes on and on. If you want your entire life monitored by corporations I don't know WTF is wrong with you.

Link?MonsieurX

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Link?Miketheman83

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Link?Miketheman83

Where does it say anything about shipping with a camera? And that is besides the point. It won't be as invasive as Kinect's.

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] Hope you dont like smart phones. cell phone companies have access to your exact location, who you've called and every text message you've ever sent. What a gross invasion of privacy. Lets not even get started on all the apps that ask for credit card and personal info. Fact is, you should assume that your privacy is already at risk all the time in the world we live in now.

 

People are overreacting to the kinect stuff just like all the other X1 things. I prefer to wait and see how everything works out instead of blowing my load to early and making a big deal out of nothing.

mems_1224

When I access google maps on my cellphone, it asks permission to get my current location. I GIVE it permission to do so. I cannot stop the Kinect from monitoring me as it is now. If I disconnect it, my system will not run. That is not acceptable.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/report/article/the-kinect-is-mandatory-and-cant-be-turned-off-welcome-your-new-motion-sens

How else are you supposed to tell the xbox "xbox on" if the Kinect can be turned off? Nope, it is always running. Can you send me some proof that Apple can access my personal info without my permission?

Either way it is not the same. The Kinect is a SURVEILLANCE system. It is literally a corporate camera in your home watching and listening to you.

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Link?argetlam00

Where does it say anything about shipping with a camera? And that is besides the point. It won't be as invasive as Kinect's.

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="Miketheman83"] http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/news/a469119/ps4-consoles-to-ship-with-headsets-and-a-very-large-hard-drive.html "Meanwhile, the camera will have its own input, which will free up an extra USB port. The camera can be used to log in, for walkthrough videos and to taunt opponents in multiplayer, and will recognize where users are sitting and change the display accordingly during split-screen games."Miketheman83

Where does it say anything about shipping with a camera? And that is besides the point. It won't be as invasive as Kinect's.

And the title doesn't mention the camera...

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

When I access google maps on my cellphone, it asks permission to get my current location. I GIVE it permission to do so. I cannot stop the Kinect from monitoring me as it is now. If I disconnect it, my system will not run. That is not acceptable.

argetlam00

http://www.penny-arcade.com/report/article/the-kinect-is-mandatory-and-cant-be-turned-off-welcome-your-new-motion-sens

How else are you supposed to tell the xbox "xbox on" if the Kinect can be turned off? Nope, it is always running. Can you send me some proof that Apple can access my personal info without my permission?

dat paranoia...my macbook pro has a front camera this confirms apple most be spying on me and using the same tech iphone uses to storage my movements...Tessellation

Yep, privacy is paranoia. So why don't you do a live stream of your house for everyone at your workplace to see? After all, privacy ain't that important right?