Are Lemmings really not concerned about their privacy and rights?

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#151 WilliamRLBaker
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The fact you actually think in the internet age that a person has any privacy is sort of laughable.

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#152 nyzma23
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Remember this The Eye and i bet you cow never plugout The Eye from your ps 4 as well 


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#153 timbers_WSU
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Nope. People are being ridiculously stupid. Everyone complaining about it has camera's on their laptops and phones. Some of them have Eye Toys. People bitch about shit just because they need a reason to do it. And as soon as the XB1 gets a few games they want they will end up buying one anyway.

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#154 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="shadowchronicle"] This is basically my view on the whole thing. Privacy invasion is a problem suddenly when it has always existed. AmazonTreeBoa

what is funny is that this loss of privacy  issue has been nothing but  horrifying  for the last 20 years but it took a game system to wake up the sw crowd.

before this they thought everything was just fine.

:lol:

 

Or they just didn't mention it because until now, it didn't relate to gaming. :roll:

yeah... look around here at the sw crowd and you tell me you believe these people have any common sense  awareness about anything.

go ahead, tell me you believe that.

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#155 Clock-w0rk
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Lemmings lost their rights the second they justified paying for XBLBPoole96

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#156 Shadowchronicle
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Or they just didn't mention it because until now, it didn't relate to gaming. :roll:AmazonTreeBoa
Are you saying privacy invasion hasn't been relevant in your life till it popped up in gaming?
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#157 senses_fail_06
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[QUOTE="BPoole96"]Lemmings lost their rights the second they justified paying for XBLNathanDrakeSwag
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#158 heeweesRus
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[QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]Lemmings lost their rights the second they justified paying for XBLsenses_fail_06
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#159 mems_1224
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

I don't use the eyetoy and I don't recall it ever saving user data it collects on the system. Of course, my console still works without the eyetoy plugged in.

argetlam00

meant the PS4 one. my bad.

Since when did the PS4 require the eyetoy be plugged in to work? The entire issue here is that the surveillance system microsoft has implemented CANNOT be turned off. It is always watching, always listening.

http://kotaku.com/xbox-ones-kinect-can-turn-off-microsoft-says-noting-510100564 you were saying? :lol: this is why you dont blow your load and freak out too early.
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#160 Mystery_Writer
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You could shout at lemmings all you want. I don't think any would respond, cause I don't know of any left here at SW.

They're endangered at the moment. If cows press hard, the remaining might leave and not come back, and all you'll be left with is the memory of the once was mythical creature named lemmings.

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#161 clone01
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[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"]You do realize this is an entertainment system right? You're not obliged to own one, it's completely optional. argetlam00

That is irrelevant. A product released on the market under no circumstance should be violating your right to privacy. They are going to have a lot of trouble in the European Union, where the law states that any monitoring system must have the ability to be turned off.

No, its completely relevant. Don't like it, don't buy it. And honestly, you're on the internet right now. Do you use facebook, twitter, google? Those applications collect the hell out of user data.
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#162 Mystery_Writer
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] meant the PS4 one. my bad. mems_1224

Since when did the PS4 require the eyetoy be plugged in to work? The entire issue here is that the surveillance system microsoft has implemented CANNOT be turned off. It is always watching, always listening.

http://kotaku.com/xbox-ones-kinect-can-turn-off-microsoft-says-noting-510100564 you were saying? :lol: this is why you dont blow your load and freak out too early.

dude, that's still different. powering down =/= turning off only Kinect. You have to turn off the whole console to get Kinect to shut the fvck up.
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#163 razu2444
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Lemmings lost their rights the second they justified paying for XBLBPoole96
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#164 SciFiRPGfan
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lulz, privacy arguments from all of us whose phones track where we are each minute and can relay everything you say without you ever knowing it.

i mean really, are you that unaware of the world you live in that all of a sudden privacy is an issue just now?

"omg! mah privacy!"

you say after a day in which you were seen by 50 cctv cameras and can be tracked with almost zero effort or have your entire history laid bare by anyone that forks over $50 to a website.

you dudes crack me up.Riverwolf007


But why keep reducing "our" privacy more and more? Or better said, why be O.K. with "our" privacy being reduced more and more?

Like you said, "we" are supposedly decently monitored as it is. So, is it necessary to go even further?

The thing that I don't like about the "you are dealing with the - insert some kind of obstacle somebody is complaining about - already so why are you starting to complain just now?" argument is that it represents a slippery slope according to which one could practically never complain about something (or something becoming worse) once he has experienced it at some point (or put up with it to some degree).

The consumers' (people's) reactions don't always work like some kind of binary system (1. I am completely O.K. with something, 2. I am completely not O.K with it). They might accept some incoveneniences (e.g. devices / companies monitoring some of their their activities) to some degree, but as they will keep piling on top of each other, some will start complaining more and more. But that's completely normal phenomenom which can be seen quite often in many areas of life. I bet that even you have your limits.

That said, I agree with the poster who said that it would be wiser to wait and see how the system works in practice before passing the judgment.

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#165 clone01
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But why keep reducing "our" privacy more and more? SciFiRPGfan
So don't buy it. Is Bill Gates holding a gun to your head?
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#166 SciFiRPGfan
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[QUOTE="SciFiRPGfan"]But why keep reducing "our" privacy more and more? clone01
So don't buy it. Is Bill Gates holding a gun to your head?


I agree. 

But on top of that, there's no harm in discussing pros and cons of doing or not doing something :) and checking out what other people would do or think about it.

Besides, like I said, I would not like to render judgments already. I was more trying to address the argument that just because someone is O.K. with some inconvenience, he should be O.K. with similar (more) inconveniences of that type with which I disagree.  

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#167 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

lulz, privacy arguments from all of us whose phones track where we are each minute and can relay everything you say without you ever knowing it.

i mean really, are you that unaware of the world you live in that all of a sudden privacy is an issue just now?

"omg! mah privacy!"

you say after a day in which you were seen by 50 cctv cameras and can be tracked with almost zero effort or have your entire history laid bare by anyone that forks over $50 to a website.

you dudes crack me up.SciFiRPGfan


But why keep reducing "our" privacy more and more? Or better said, why be O.K. with "our" privacy being reduced more and more?

Like you said, "we" are supposedly decently monitored as it is. So, is it necessary to go even further?

The thing that I don't like about the "you are dealing with the - insert some kind of obstacle somebody is complaining about - already so why are you starting to complain just now?" argument is that it represents a slippery slope according to which one could practically never complain about something (or something becoming worse) once he has experienced it at some point (or put up with it to some degree).

The consumers' (people's) reactions don't always work like some kind of binary system (1. I am completely O.K. with something, 2. I am completely not O.K with it). They might accept some incoveneniences (e.g. devices / companies monitoring some of their their activities) to some degree, but as they will keep piling on top of each other, some will start complaining more and more. But that's completely normal phenomenom which can be seen quite often in many areas of life. I bet that even you have your limits.

That said, I agree with the poster who said that it would be wiser to wait and see how the system works in practice before passing the judgment.

so i'm supposed to be worried about the opinions of a pile of guys whose judgment is compromised because they either hate or love some game console?

come-on.

those types being panicky and militant about something is a perfect reverse barometer of what a sensible person needs to be concerned about.

i can't  see this as any kind of threat at all.

just the regular internet extremest bullshyt.

if i get more information on it and it really is some kind of threat or it compromises my privacy in some way i'm not comfortable with then i won't buy it, simple as that.

anything else is just  letting your emotions make decisions for you without any basis in reality.

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#168 lostrib
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[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"]You do realize this is an entertainment system right? You're not obliged to own one, it's completely optional. clone01

That is irrelevant. A product released on the market under no circumstance should be violating your right to privacy. They are going to have a lot of trouble in the European Union, where the law states that any monitoring system must have the ability to be turned off.

No, its completely relevant. Don't like it, don't buy it. And honestly, you're on the internet right now. Do you use facebook, twitter, google? Those applications collect the hell out of user data.

Ugh, too many people don't understand the "rights" they scream about