Are Ninja Theory some of the worst developers around?

Why yes it was.

Still salty after 6 weeks #someoneneedshealing

EDIT: I also noticed that post 16 of that thread was deleted by needhealing, but it shows what he said when I responded to him on comment 21, where he said as a nasty lemming I was going to cry at Sony's E3, and boy was he right, but it was from tears of laughter.

Boy talk about overstating. They may not be best, but they are far from worst.

It wasn't eliminated by me, it was a mod. Too many lemmings crying.

Sure it was, after seeing Sony's E3 conference I would have deleted that comment too LOL.

Enslaved was one of my favourite games last gen and Hellblade one of my favourites this gen. So personally I think MS made a good choice. Now MS just needs to be hands off and don't fvck it up. That's the tricky part.

No. Any more questions?

Nice to meet someone that agrees with me on those other 2.

I loved Heavenly Sword, even bought the animated stuff.

DMC was a good hack n slash game imo. Was it what the Devil May Cry faithful wanted? Probably not. But I'm not one of them. I always thought Dante was a shit character so changes were welcome from me LOL

Hell Blade turned out really great. I have it on my Pro and its a great game imo.

I fully expect a new IP for their first Xbox/W10 game. But I expect Enslaved to either get remastered or put into BC soon.

:P

Might try and get a cheap copy of heavenly sword heard good things completely missed it last gen. Forgot ninja theory were behind it.

Actually no, their games are fantastic and it is a definite blow to the PS4 and Switch that they are owned by MS now. Good for MS though.

HellBlade is grossly underrated by the average gamer (not critics).

@Pedro said:

@dagubot said:

Interesting...you said "good thing Microsoft bought them". When back on this thread. You said this...

@needhealing said:

@cainetao11 said:

@needhealing said:

They are going to be eating up those words when their studio, hopefully gets shut down in less than 5 years.

So you are hoping they get shut down? Because they agreed to purchased by MS? You are what is wrong in the world, not just gaming.

Lol, okay getting all dramatic with the world and stuff because of what someone says in a forum. Take your pills, please.

And yes, they are traitors and will regret their desicion.

Waiting on his response...lmao.

@dagubot: SAVAGE!!!

All of their games I played were 7.5 to 8.0 games , so that's what I would rank them out of 10.

• Heavenly Sword
• Enslaved
• DmC
• Hellblade

I didn't play Kung Fu Chaos , but that was their 1st game anyway so I'll give them a pass.

They seem less capable making games with good gameplay design but their strengths are in their exceptional storytelling abilities. That being said, DMC gameplay was pretty solid. I played that a few weeks back, pretty good. I also just finished Hellblade yesterday, I really liked that too.

No.

Forgettable? For some reason I still remember heavenly sword. Odd.

So now lemmings like "movie games"?

Movie games used to mean a game that was predominantly story or had very lengthy cut scenes. Now it has devolved into basically any game with any amount of story.

@boycie: I see, so this is lemmings changing narratives now that M$ acquired a studio that is known for its story focused games.

Well, nothing new in lemming's hypocrisy land.

Enslaved was good, DmC was shit and Hellblade was utter dog shit.

No, I don't speak for all the MS fans. That's just the way I see.

It's not like it really matters though.

I would say Enslaved was fine. Not really good, but not bad. DmC was mediocre. Hellblade was shit.

@dagubot said:

@Pedro said:

@dagubot said:

Interesting...you said "good thing Microsoft bought them". When back on this thread. You said this...

@needhealing said:

@cainetao11 said:

So you are hoping they get shut down? Because they agreed to purchased by MS? You are what is wrong in the world, not just gaming.

Lol, okay getting all dramatic with the world and stuff because of what someone says in a forum. Take your pills, please.

And yes, they are traitors and will regret their desicion.

Waiting on his response...lmao.

I don't respond to lemmings.

@needhealing said:

@dagubot said:

@Pedro said:

@dagubot said:

Interesting...you said "good thing Microsoft bought them". When back on this thread. You said this...

@needhealing said:

Lol, okay getting all dramatic with the world and stuff because of what someone says in a forum. Take your pills, please.

And yes, they are traitors and will regret their desicion.

Waiting on his response...lmao.

I don't respond to lemmings.

Tell me lies tell me sweet little lies

Tell me lies

Argue all you want in SW but don't be a bitchliar

@cainetao11 said:

@needhealing said:

@dagubot said:

@Pedro said:

@dagubot said:

Interesting...you said "good thing Microsoft bought them". When back on this thread. You said this...

Waiting on his response...lmao.

I don't respond to lemmings.

Tell me lies tell me sweet little lies

Tell me lies

Argue all you want in SW but don't be a bitchliar

That's his response? Really? I forgot everyone is a lemming to him if they don't agree with him...lmfao.

@dagubot said:

@cainetao11 said:

@needhealing said:

@dagubot said:

@Pedro said:

Waiting on his response...lmao.

I don't respond to lemmings.

Tell me lies tell me sweet little lies

Tell me lies

Argue all you want in SW but don't be a bitchliar

That's his response? Really? I forgot everyone is a lemming to him if they don't agree with him...lmfao.

Anybody that says anything remotely negative about Sony is a 'Lemming' now/

Which is weird, because why anyone would want to defend M$ is beyond me.

There are much worse developers out there.

DmC Devil May Cry reboot was good in itself.

Enslaved Journey to the West was pretty cool.

Disney Infinite 3.0 was pretty good too.

Heavenly Sword was really great.

What's not to like about them?!

Why anyone would want a developer to go out of business is beyond me.

That's definitely it. There are bad developers and Ninja Theory isn't one of them. I enjoyed Hellblade and to think they pulled it off with almost no funding is a testament to their talent as developers.

Nah, they're one of the best.

Why? Because art.

I don't think people can look past their noses and see games as more than games for the most part. They play Hellblade, and think "Oh it doesn't have enough gameplay for me" without appreciating the dozens of different and unique components that went into developing the game. In fact, they might be so anti-intellectual and anti-culture they are actually repulsed by the thought of appreciating a game as a piece of art; they'll have this almost knee-jerk reaction to not want to feel like, idunno, a hipster or something and be like "Ewww games as art? Lame", and that's a shame.

In short, these critics prevent themselves the wonderful enjoyment of appreciation, culture, and art. I get it, we all love blasting shit to smithereens or hacking limbs off people and doing it all mindlessly, but sometimes a little art and a little culture is fun, too, and we don't get enough of that. In games or life.

And these same people will happily wash dishes in Detroit: Become Human, though...fools! Peasants! Simpletons!

:P

I've said it before, but there is more to a game than gameplay. Ironic, I know, but Hellblade is a masterpiece for a variety of reasons, most notably: it's use of various technologies; how they incorporated these technologies into the game; how it dealt with mental illness; it's audio; the writing, story, voiceacting; and much more.

But as if Hellblade was not enough, Ninja Theory also made:

Heavenly Sword, which was pretty amazing

DmC (reboot), which was loads of fun.

Enslaved: Odyssey to the West that is based on the novel Journey to the West, and written and co-developed by Alex Garland (who directed the amazing Ex Machina and Annihilation, and was involved in other gems like 28 Days Later and Sunshine). The game is a load of fun.

Yeah, they're way worse than developers of games like Steel Rivals.

@needhealing: that’s funny because until today I never saw anyone completely ignore being caught out like a bitch the way you just did.

At least say you were emotionally reacting during E3, your girl/man left you and you were lashing out, anything!

I don’t see how a developer with NT background, the awards and praise they’ve received for hellblade; this forum even had a thread when it released bragging how X1 doesn’t get these type games. Somehow, now they are a questionable dev lol

You’re exposed. Just own it

But didn't lems use to hate movie games?

Agreed with ya there.

No discussion anymore, just a bunch of false info/shitposting and any sort of attempted conversation ends in a gif war.

SW from 03-06 is rolling in its grave

@recloud: can you prove that applies to ALL LEMS?

Half of Quantum Break was a TV show ffs.

lulz.

@dxmcat: no different then mgs4

@cainetao11: nice backpedaling. Good to know now Lems like story focused "movie games". Oh, the hypocrisy.

That clapback! Lmfao...

@mrbojangles25: okay imo you need to play some more games to open your mind.

I played their every damn games since Ps3 and i can say their games were mediocre at best , and you saying masterpiece ? Dont make me laugh man its not cool

I play too many games, if anything, as well.

I get it, they're not the funnest games. But they're incredibly progressive, narrative-driven experiences. If you enjoy good writing, story, and characters, then Ninja Theory is a good developer for you. If CoD is your favorite game series, well, they're probably not.

Look it's fine if you don't like them or anything like that, but let's hold up on the "worst developer around" bullshit, all right? Don't make you laugh? No, man, don't make me laugh :P

Not calling a developer the worst and liking movie games are 2 different things altogether, so sorry that you couldn't understand that concept and had to go make a dumb thread about it lol.

I actually really enjoyed Heavenly Sword, Enslaved and DMC. I think it was a studio MS could really use. I just hope they don't get shutdown if their games dont become megahits.

Lol, this sh*t cow thread backfired completely... I love it.

Salt is in the air.

@mrbojangles25: i never say Ninja theory is the worst developer or bullshit

Im just saying they are just an okay dev ... nothing special about their games , ive played alot of NT games like Heavenly sword , Enslaved , Dmc , HellBlade

Those game were just average , mediocre experience for me, its not even on the same level as Assassin creed and Tomb Raider which is i considered above-average franchise

Bonus also my favorite game is not CoD thanks

I love Red dead redemption , The Witcher 3 and The Last of Us.

Now? I guess you missed the Gears of War games last gen, Halo campaigns and Rise of the Tomb Raider threads and reception by Lems here.

The funniest thing in SW is anyone trying to point out hypocrisy as if they never have been guilty of it.

Can you prove this Lem hated "movie games" or not? I cant speak for anyone but myself in life.

No for me