Are PS 4 graphics matching upto the standard or even surpassing many PC games?

Those Witcher 3 shots are not impressive. If you're going to hide behind a console port you're better off sticking with The Division or something.

Uncharted 4 Gameplay

Know what else is funny? Nobody cared about The Witchers graphics until it hit console. This is what the Witcher looked like wen it was a PC exclusive:

Face it. PC will always be the place for second rate developers.

Yup, defnitely leagues better than every 900pStation exclusive you throw at its way. Oh yeah, kudos to Crytek for producing a technical marvel in 2011 that creme de le creme Sony devs Naughty Duds still can't surpass after 6 years with baked lighting.

lol Naughty Duds lol 900pStation Oh here are some more pics for you to enjoy:

Now you did it. That's what I was waiting for: comment at the level of animation changes poly count. By the way, what happened to your ND is usind realtime GI with UC4 cmment you were bragging about a couple of wees back? :P

Digital Foundry: "stands above everything else on consoles from a technical perspective"

There's an obvious reason why DF mentioned consoles from a technical perspective. There is no debate there.

One can however subjectively think that UC4 looks better than anything else from aesthetic point of view.

Quantum Break and Crysis 3 and Ryse do.

@gpuking said:

You know for every painstakingly cherry picked shot from you I can post 100 more beautiful ones. Don't act like the majority of the game looks like the ones you posted, people have eyes and you sure as hell don't fool us. Besides these aren't even half bad to start with.

@zergforlife said:

@Pray_to_me

You can keep posting all the photomodes with heavy sharpness and cutscene shots you want, while posting bad W3 ones.

Witcher 3 looks better, runs better, and has an exponentially larger scope. And W3 isn't even one of the better ones. There are more that beat UC4, now that we finally have it released and see it isn't graphics king.

And this is UC4 with no photomodes and Cutscenes:

Nothing is touching UC4.

How is the last one supposed to be impressive?

UC4 doesn't always look good though....

Well it is a last gen game so that is understandable but when they bring out the next game it is going to look insane on PC hopefully they don't make PC gamers wait so long

@Juub1990: No they don't.. they used a voxel based GI. No hardware is capable of doing true realtime GI. And ironically every game you mentioned looks worse then UC4.

Source? Also how does it being voxel based prevent it from being real-time?

@Juub1990: Read cryteks website.. I read there rendering techniques based off your claim. Specifically on cryengine 3.

I did too and Voxel based GI doesn't prevent GI from being real-time...

From every source I read Crysis 3 uses 3rd Gen real-time GI.

Source

There is even a console command to turn it on/off and it does mention "when calculating GI" because it does it in real-time.

@Pray_to_me said:

Those Witcher 3 shots are not impressive. If you're going to hide behind a console port you're better off sticking with The Division or something.

Uncharted 4 Gameplay

Know what else is funny? Nobody cared about The Witchers graphics until it hit console. This is what the Witcher looked like wen it was a PC exclusive:

Face it. PC will always be the place for second rate developers.

Ignorance at its finest.

A "second rate" developer that not only started on PC as their only platform, and ultimately rose to success because of it, but also won nearly every single game of the year award last year with their 3rd game.

@Juub1990: I'll post the video when I get back to a desktop( it's sad you can't post links from a mobile on this forum). There is a video titles "reality check" global illumination on gamespot that explains it well. But to make a long story short realtime GI in current games is only capable of diffusing three sources. The precalculated GI in UC4 isn't really less impressive because it allows them to use more sources. So although it may be less demanding it looks better. Although I actually think it uses a mix of realtime and per calculated.

@miiiiv: From a technical perspective it is doing some things better then any PC game. It will never do thinks like IQ and performance better then a PC though.

@DragonfireXZ95 said:

@Pray_to_me said:

Those Witcher 3 shots are not impressive. If you're going to hide behind a console port you're better off sticking with The Division or something.

Uncharted 4 Gameplay

Know what else is funny? Nobody cared about The Witchers graphics until it hit console. This is what the Witcher looked like wen it was a PC exclusive:

Face it. PC will always be the place for second rate developers.

Ignorance at its finest.

A "second rate" developer that not only started on PC as their only platform, and ultimately rose to success because of it, but also won nearly every single game of the year award last year with their 3rd game.

Funny how he compares a game released in 2007 to Uncharted 4. I dont recall seeing any PS3 games from 2007 looking nearly as good as the first witcher game.

How bout we compare it to a proper PC exclusive. Squadron 42 is going to be released this year, so that should do fine.

http://gamersyde.com/hqstream_star_citizen_squadron_42_meet_the_old_man_teaser-36223_en.html

I should note that the video seen there is rendered in-engine and in real-time.

Crysis 2 and the Climb as well. Fable Legends was supposed to be using it the last I heard.

Edit: Crytek just now have switched to SVOGI with their Total Illumination GI system before that they were using what's called realtime Light Propagation Volumes for GI in Crysis 2, Crysis 3 and Ryse.

@AM-Gamer: Aside from animations and character models I literally see nothing in that game that is on par with the best on PC. Foliage? Textures? Lighting? Shadows? Water? Particle effects?

The only outstanding thing is really character models/animations. The rest is good but not remarkable.

@AndrewLB: I suggest you ignore him, its quite obvious that he is trolling when he compares a 2007 game with a 2016 game. Pray_to_me is a well known troll on this forum.

Source

Now the cat is out of the bag and it's confirmed that Naught Duds couldn't do realtime GI suddenly no game does realtime GI and no hardware is even capable of doing it. lel. That's what I call a true 'animation changing polycount' DC.

Put's an image of the Witcher 1 up.

@Pray_to_me said:

Those Witcher 3 shots are not impressive. If you're going to hide behind a console port you're better off sticking with The Division or something.

Uncharted 4 Gameplay

Know what else is funny? Nobody cared about The Witchers graphics until it hit console. This is what the Witcher looked like wen it was a PC exclusive:

Face it. PC will always be the place for second rate developers.

Lol.

@RyviusARC:

It seems to really shine indoors, whereas outdoor scenes you can see where PS4 is getting maxed. TW3 is amazing in outdoor scenes.

*GS is gonna make these blurry in the post, so right-click and select 'open in new tab' for full-size*

@zeeshanhaider: Except they can do real time GI it's just limited to one source. You morons as as if cryengine 3 is revolutionary when it's only doing three sources. Hence the reason it looks worse.

But true GI in Pixar films can do hundreds of sources.

@Juub1990: So have you played it? Because the physical based rendering , foliage and lighting is some some of the best around.

@AM-Gamer: Yeah some of the best around. Not THE best around and yes I did play it just 2hrs ago. You guys talk like it's head and shoulders above everything else when it's not and DF makes it a point to mention it is the best looking console game.

The low resolution shadows, texture pop-in, 4X AF, pre-calculated GI and at times blurry/low-res textures prevent it from being the clear cut technical king. There are flaws in the visuals.

@Juub1990: When's the last time they claimed a PC game was the undisputed king? They haven't raved about a games technical merits like this since Ryse. And texture pop in? They specifically mentioned how great there streaming technology was. As I said before precalculated GI can look better because it doesn't have to limit itself to three sources. And no game in existence doesn't have some low res textures... but the physically bases rendering is the best I've seen. I'm not saying its head and shoulders above all but it's top tier.

I agree from what I've seen here so far.

The game looks like a good last gen port on a PC, except it seems like they used todays tech and squared it all really back making things look horrible and fake, models look like rubber in most scenes i have seen here.

Outdoor shot is over bright and has no contrast to anything, also smeared in vasoline.

@rekonmeister: When compressed direct feeds are your only source then your opinion doesn't hold much water.

There the best character models in gaming currently...even DF agrees.

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Do you know how to open in a new tab?

LOL

@rekonmeister: weren't you the moron that said SoM had better graphics? You have 318 post so I'm guessing you are just a troll account. No point in arguing with you.

SoM does have better graphics if you have eyes.

@rekonmeister: bat eyes?

Or slight backwards thinking maybe.

@rekonmeister: Or troll goggles?

Or we could go on forever quoting each other with "or" comments.

You like bad looking games, others like better looking games, it's ok because i played Gran turismo 2 for 4 hrs yesterday and enjoyed every bit of it, sadly UC don't even have gameplay so not much luck there.

@AM-Gamer: Uncharted 4 looks very good visually and is one of the best looking games around but as I said about 20 times, there is no clear cut best looking game and there hasn't been one since Crysis 3. All games suffer from a weakness somewhere, Uncharted 4 is no different. It looks great but all of those "nothing comes close" is hyperoble at its finest.

Also yes they did mention texture pop-in issues and I saw them myself.

@rekonmeister: You like games that look technically worse.. that's OK that's your opinion and UC4 had no gameplay for you because you never played it.

Technically? oh so you like numbers and spread sheets? go play in your offcie with your calculator.

Playing the first and second was enough.

@Juub1990: System Wars is built on hyperbole... although as far as animation quality that is the one area where I'd say it is leaps and bounds ahead. Character models are the best in my opinion but not far ahead of the other top titles. Foliage is among the best(especially since its all dynamic).

But your right games are so big and so complex each has strengths and weaknesses. But the hyperbole makes System Wars what it is.

I like SoM's look. It's not the best by any means, but it looks good in motion. Nice and gory like Lord of the Gears.

@gamecubepad said:

@rekonmeister said:

SoM does have better graphics if you have eyes.

I like SoM's look. It's not the best by any means, but it looks good in motion. Nice and gory like Lord of the Gears.

Exactly techincality is not what graphics are, they are a visual experience.

You will only get idiots telling you this looks inferior to UC4 lmao.

Sit in tight and grab your popcorn, the meltdown has only begun. :D There's so much flipflopping to see from him.

Now let me make him dance:

TRUE GI....

So, which thing in game is TRUE replication of real life?

Next you'll tell me light in games doesn't obey and behave in the TRUE way as it does it in real life.

After that you'll say to me that game physics is an approximation of the Newtonian model and does not obey the TRUE laws of physics in real life.

Lip sync and animations are lauaghable (especially in case of UC4 :P) since they are not TRUE humans.

P.S. I didn't know we were discussing Pixar films and not the 900p turd with baked lighting and GI on a 900pStation.

Well I already watched several hours of uncharted 4 on youtube and there's really not enough gameplay for me.

The graphics are nice though, but that's easy with so many set pieces, scripted sequences and linear levels. How this game got a 10/10 here is beyond me, gameplay is a major factor when scoring games and uncharted gameplay is bland. Looks assassins creed with a gun and a cover system, in a linear world.

@commander: Some of the levels are huge....

@zeeshanhaider: You said UC4 had pre baked lighting you buffoon. As precalculated GI and pre baked lighting is the same ? LMAO!

Then you keep saying the game is 900p ignoring the SP. UC4 has wrecked your world.10/10 get wrecked!

Awwwwwwwwww.....poor cow ran out of words. tsk tsk tsk. Such a shame I was expecting some more fireworks.

Ah well, that's bound to happen because lol Naughty Duds and lol 900pStation.

@zeeshanhaider: higher rated then any Crycrap game ever.

@Cloud_imperium Did I or Did I not tell you that the flip flopping is only gonna increase.

1) Crytek never rated their own games like Sony do or never were they marketed like that.

2) Doesn't change the fact that Crytek made both the game and came up with rendering technique Naughty Duds still couldn't do after more than 5 years.

3) LOL Naughty Duds after being in the industry for 30+ years have no rendering techology, no original game or hell not even an original game mechanic to their credit. The oldest and successful copy cat devs they are. While Crytek apart from their technical accomplishments are also responsible for the creation of sandbox First Person Shooter and Open ended gameplay and have several gameplay mechanics to their credit.

4) They only turned Crycrap after abandoning their original fanbase and started chasing the casual dumbed down consoLOLe crowd, top kek. Think they will get lucky with bad gameplay like the rest of the console devs too. :P

So, you were saying something?