Are Sony games irrelevant in Esports?

Of course you can. Your first post showed that. Hell all your posts show that.

If you were a Civil engineer you would know it can be very 'entertaining'.

PS - I know it doesn't. Read his reasoning about a sport then you might understand why I said what I said.

rofl keep crying

This is not true in any capacity, while competitive gaming has not been 'officially' classified as a sport as of yet (it will be inevitably), it fits every qualification and definition set out by SportAccord for a mind/coordination sport, SportAccord is literally the end all be all of federal sports organizations. Working at a computer is not a sporting or competitive event just as shoveling dirt outside is not a sporting or competitive event, your analogy is horrible.

Physical exertion is what sports are generally known for because that is what they derived from, they're a product of their time and technological limitations, that doesn't mean other things which have come since the physical age such as non-physical games are not sports. You're simply the type of person living in the past who can't get over and dispute the validity of something that has every possible valid reason for a sports classification, because it is. It's all in the works right now, it's 100% going to happen, it's just a matter of time and you dinosaurs are making yourselves look like ignorant asses fighting it.

Did you really just say that competitive gaming doesn't require physical skill or conditioning? You're on drugs, try being good at a game like Counter-Strike competitively without extremely honed hand/eye coordination, reaction time and perfected muscle memory. Try being good at a game like Counter-Strike competitively without practicing hundreds to thousands of hours, without understanding map layouts to a science, without knowing angles, flash points, smoke points, wall spams, positional tracking, map timings, recoil control and a deep knowledge of the overall metagame. Video games require just as much conditioning to be competitively successful, in many cases even more as there are countless more variables that need to be factored in.

I'm talking to a bunch of casual gamers right now who don't know the first thing about competitive gaming, playing a game in a league, playing in tournaments, you people are ignorant beyond belief.

The SportAccord has developed a definition of sport to determine whether an applicant federation qualifies as an international sports federation.

SportAccord's definition of Sport is the following definition:

• The sport proposed should include an element of competition.
• The sport should not rely on any element of “luck” specifically integrated into the sport.
• The sport should not be judged to pose an undue risk to the health and safety of its athletes or participants.
• The sport proposed should in no way be harmful to any living creature.
• The sport should not rely on equipment that is provided by a single supplier.

SportAccord uses five categories for its member federations' sports, many of which fall into more than one category:

• Primarily physical (e.g. rugby or athletics)
• Primarily mind (e.g. chess or go)
• Primarily motorized (e.g. Formula One or powerboating)
• Primarily coordination (e.g. billiards)
• Primarily animal-supported (e.g. equestrianism)

By definition this is not a sport, and sure ass hell aren't athletes. However, they can call it what they want but E-Competition would be more accurate.

Halo does have terrible Twitch numbers. Go look right now and its nowhere to be found. Getting a temporary boost from a tournament being held on ESPN for 1 day out of months of irrelevancy means nothing.

@flyincloud1116: word. if they're gonna call their competitions something really stupid like e-sports they need to just go all the way stupid and do something like Cyber Warz. trying to seem legitimate by calling it a sport just seems like they're trying too hard to be taken seriously.

so you think world of tanks and poker are better than blops 3? sounds like dumb logic to me

Both of those are free to play so everyone has access to them. Plus poker is universally popular. Who doesn't like texas hold em?

Trying too hard to be taken seriously? Because it is serious... These positions are literally careers for people, they are professionals and make tens, hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars. There are multi-million and multi-billion dollar organizations at the helm of these leagues, tournaments and events, sponsors, millions of players, millions of teams, hundreds of millions of spectators, they have every format and backing available to them that every other sport does...

What do you not find serious about that?

Pretty much. Sony is irrelevant in esports, Xbone and Wii U are just irrelevant in general.

that its called e-sports because its a stupid ass name.

Electronic Sports?

What exactly is stupid about that name? It perfectly fits what it is... Also nice job ignoring everything else I said... What a tool...

lol at Esports, real gamers enjoy PLAYING not watching like many "esports" watchers.

Lem on lem violence.

its sounds stupid.

I didn't ignore anything you said. I answered your question.

So you argue that it can't be taken serious because you don't like the name that perfectly describes what it is while ignoring the serious nature of every other capacity of what it is?

Right...

it sounds like a stupid buzzword that a marketing department came up with because they wanted to sound hardcore. its stupid.

Well that's a really cool story guy, and an extremely feeble and stupid argument... What would you call it exactly?

Do you find these names dumb as well? Electronic Sports League or Electronic Sports Entertainment Association?

thats the entire point of my argument. its a stupid name because A) its not a sport and B) it sounds stupid. No idea what the **** you're arguing.

But it is a sport, just because you don't find it to be one doesn't mean it's not one.

Like I said, you people are casual dinosaurs who can't get with the times.

But its not a sport. Its not because I don't find it to be, its because by its very definition its not. Now, if you were talking about a Madden or NBA 2k tournament then you could make an argument for calling that an esport. People playing Halo or Counterstrike isn't a sport

lol Esports.

Poker isn't a sport either

Well I don't give a shit what you find or do no find to be, to people that actually matter, the millions and millions of them including myself who take part and contribute to it, it is one... What kind of dumb double think logic is that... So a sports game can be an esport but a different form of equally competitive game cannot? That completely contradicts itself and everything you've said... A video game is a video game you casual nightmare, holy shit....

Doesn't contradict anything at all. Madden is by definition is an electronic version of a real sport. Halo multiplayer isn't

Oh my god... They're both video games... You're contradicting yourself all over the place...

Let's call Chess b-sports. Board sports.

You didn't really think that through... Surfing, snowboarding, skateboarding, wakeboarding etc...

byahtso-sports.

As in, Boards-You-Actually-Have-To-Stand-On sports.

The definition of "sport" reads as follow; "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment."

Going by that definition, it's a sport.

LOL "Esports"

Unless you are talking fighting or sports games consoles are irrelevant in esports

It's ironic that you were the one crying and don't even realize it. Fortunately you don't fool anyone here.

@LJS9502_basic: ahahahahahaha so much salt

3 days. Each day the x game's halo wc was held it's twitch numbers until the gold medal match on Saturday kept on rising.The twitch numbers have also been going up erecently whenever one of those weekend qualifiers are held. Halo 5's twitch numbers are usually not that strong compared to some games, but it's still impressive how it was able to get over 40K viewers watching the x games event on saturday even though the HWC finals are like a month away.Even 343i was happy about it.It was also on tv on the weekend.

They have to be in very good shape because it's physically demanding to drive a car at those speeds. The G forces makes it feel like you're driving with 20lbs weights on your arms. It's a lot more demanding than people realize.

I dont know but Sony does have a major tournament game coming soon(SF5).

I'm very pleased with what MS has been doing although I read earlier on this site that it was Xgames that approached the Halo tourney and not the other way around.

Pretty sure I also read an article over the weekend on IGN stating that RB6 is getting a pro gaming league or something like that, but only on PC and Xbox One. I think with how H5 turned out(emphasis on the competitive play) and the Elite Controller they recently released, it seems Microaoft is definitely trying to appeal to that scene and I'm definitely happy as I love competitive play.

I'm very glad they don't heavily involve themselves with e-sports nonsense.

The rainbow six tourny is only for pc/xboxone? clever move microsoft. I wonder if ubisoft will do the same as 343 have make the profit of skins go towards the prize pool. That should be a standard from now on.

@lawlessx: Yeah the pro league is debuting in March it seems, they are saying RB6 was built with competitive gaming in mind and the prize pool is small (100k vs the 2M$ of Halo 5) . I agree things like skin packs to help fund the tourneys is a great idea.

http://m.ca.ign.com/articles/2016/01/29/pro-rainbow-six-coming-courtesy-of-ubisoft-and-esl

Are esports irrelevant in my life?

just enough time to practice some more and find a decent group of players.

Pretty much. I mean, it's not like they put their games forward for e-sports either. Like they have had plenty of contenders over the years like Socom 2, Killzone 2, or even Uncharted 2 as they all have really great multiplayer modes. But you're siting Killer Instinct as good stuff and i'm like lol.