Are the next gen consoles overhyped for gaming?

For someone who understands something about hardware and what it actually does outside of "more memory good", I think they are.  If you look at the potential teraflop performance of current gen consoles compared to next gen there isn't a huge difference.  The new ps4 will just be more traditional architecture.  It will be able to multitask better.  Updated peripherals should allow for better functioning as far as chatting and multimedia and stuff like that.  The 360 is actually already good at these things.  It just is limited graphically.  The ps3 as far as a pure game machine is still not even maximizing what it can do.

I don't think there is going to be a huge jump next gen as far as quality in games.  I think games like uncharted, mlb the show, killzone, beyond two souls are already doing pretty amazing things.

I think next gen will be more about what this gen should have been hardware wise without the quirks that came along with this gen.  But I don't think we are going to see a huge bump in quality.  It will probably come along with it's own set of quirks as these comparnies really try to lock down their stuff.

Next gen will be this gen+ most likely. Devs will be able to do things they couldn't do this gen, but like this gen the focus will be yet again on creating amazing looking games.

Judging from Killzone: Shadow Fall's demo, there doesn't seem to be a major jump from PS3 to PS4, and laughably it's running at 30fps.

Maybe it's just because I'm a PC gamer who is familiar with superior graphics - so seeing what the PS4 is capable of is nothing special.

I think next gen we will see a lot more games that look like killzone and uncharted instead of just the select few playstation exclusives that really push the envelope.  It will be a more even playing field.

The issue with that is those are big budget games.  They are still going to be expensive games to make.  Hopefully the indie game scene will thrive with the new hardware.

I think we will see a lot more physics in games, both for gameplay and just for show. Sushiglutton

I hope so.  I play sports games and physics are still terrible.

For someone who understands something about hardware and what it actually does outside of "more memory good", I think they are.  If you look at the potential teraflop performance of current gen consoles compared to next gen there isn't a huge difference.  The new ps4 will just be more traditional architecture.  It will be able to multitask better.  Updated peripherals should allow for better functioning as far as chatting and multimedia and stuff like that.  The 360 is actually already good at these things.  It just is limited graphically.  The ps3 as far as a pure game machine is still not even maximizing what it can do.

I don't think there is going to be a huge jump next gen as far as quality in games.  I think games like uncharted, mlb the show, killzone, beyond two souls are already doing pretty amazing things.

 

I think next gen will be more about what this gen should have been hardware wise without the quirks that came along with this gen.  But I don't think we are going to see a huge bump in quality.  It will probably come along with it's own set of quirks as these comparnies really try to lock down their stuff.

Celtic_34

Midway through nextgen, top-tier, big-budget games will approach 'Avatar'-level graphics.  There'll be just a few small giveaways that the educated eye can spot.  It's gonna make current-gen look like a mess of blurry textures, grass-cards and bad lighting.  It gets to the point where the only real limitation is the scope of developer ambition and the funds to make that happen.

What may also happen is a hollowing out where the market splits between low-budget indie titles and mega-budget event games, with vanishingly little middle ground. 

Killzone: SF @ 30 FPS = :lol:

Very much overhyped, but I'm sure it'll please the plebs, because they don't know any better.

Just the PS4

Killzone: SF @ 30 FPS = :lol:

Very much overhyped, but I'm sure it'll please the plebs, because they don't know any better.

Rage010101

And most gaming rigs were running Crysis 3 on max settings with close to 60FPS...:roll:

I'd say so since the only thing they have going for them is a graphical upgrade.

Previous gens brought us 3D gaming, newer/more advanced controllers, humungous jumps in game size with new disc formats, a massive jump in online functionality, etc.

The PS4/NextBox will just be a graphical jump over the PS3/360. That's really all they are.

Yes they are overhyped in the sense that they won't be doing anything PCs weren't doing a couple of years ago. Not overhyped in the sense that they should be major improvements over what the current generation has to offer. Just depends your viewpoint.

I'd say so since the only thing they have going for them is a graphical upgrade.

Previous gens brought us 3D gaming, newer/more advanced controllers, humungous jumps in game size with new disc formats, a massive jump in online functionality, etc.

 

The PS4/NextBox will just be a graphical jump over the PS3/360. That's really all they are.

Ly_the_Fairy

Hopefully some improved AI as well..

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Killzone: SF @ 30 FPS = :lol:

Very much overhyped, but I'm sure it'll please the plebs, because they don't know any better.

StrongBlackVine

And most gaming rigs were running Crysis 3 on max settings with close to 60FPS...:roll:

I came in perpared to bash you, but actually you have a pretty good OP.  

Actually it's all up to devs for the quality of games we get with the next gen.  This gen there did seem to be too many games that felt like unfinished tech demos than enjoyable games but this next gen seems to be breathing new life into developers imaginations.   

That alone will push games to the next level...the improved graphics will just be an added benifit if this comes to pass.  I look foward to what Sony will do and I hope MS competes as well.  I am still now sure where Nintendo stands, they haven't really shown me  that they are trying to push foward with games but I hope they get their act together being the only pure game company in the industry.

From a technical standpoint, there isn't a whole lot more necessary as far as hardware goes in order to make a game have unbelieveable graphics.  

If a top studio was miraculously funded to create a AAA calibur game targeted at top-of-the-line PCs (overclocked i7s, 16gb ram, gtx680 SLI, etc), they could make a game that is damn near photo-realistic.  

However, there is a LOT more room for improvement in the areas of physics and AI.  I believe we will see more substantial advances in these two areas next gen.   

This is the least amount of hype I've ever witness for hardware. There has been next to no hype. How are they overhyped?Heirren

The problem with games that look like avatar is they are going to cost avatar money to make.  Are developers going to spend that kind of money to make games like that?

 I've been playing the same Madden football for hte last 20 years and they can't even get basic tackle animations down and we expect Avatar like games?

The problem with games that look like avatar is they are going to cost avatar money to make.  Are developers going to spend that kind of money to make games like that?

 I've been playing the same Madden football for hte last 20 years and they can't even get basic tackle animations down and we expect Avatar like games?

Celtic_34

lol if you think it takes more money to make software look like avatar visuals.  dont matter how much money a dev decides to spend, the hardware itself is not capable.

From a technical standpoint, there isn't a whole lot more necessary as far as hardware goes in order to make a game have unbelieveable graphics.

If a top studio was miraculously funded to create a AAA calibur game targeted at top-of-the-line PCs (overclocked i7s, 16gb ram, gtx680 SLI, etc), they could make a game that is damn near photo-realistic.

However, there is a LOT more room for improvement in the areas of physics and AI. I believe we will see more substantial advances in these two areas next gen.

Bruin1986

Actually my rig isn't high end (any more, it was in 2011) and I happily get Crysis running at 50 - 60 fps (Ultra @ 1080), depending on how much is going on, Nvidia have done some great things with their drivers since Crysis 3 was released.

Another example would be Tomb Raider, which when first released I got a whopping 20 fps (if I was lucky) on Max settings and TressFX enabled, a week later and a driver update and I was getting steady 60+ fps (the '+' doesn't matter as my monitor refreshes at 60 Hz)

The future offerings from Sony and MS will not come close to that kind of performance.

For comparison my GTX 590 benchmarks at a similar level to a single GTX 680.

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Love my Wii U so far. Can't wait for the PS4. Far as I'm concerned, I'm excited for the next gen. Only console I'm worried about is the new Xbox...hopefully it's not Kinect 2.0.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]This is the least amount of hype I've ever witness for hardware. There has been next to no hype. How are they overhyped?tagyhag

[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="Heirren"]This is the least amount of hype I've ever witness for hardware. There has been next to no hype. How are they overhyped?Heirren

Better AI, better physics, bigger game levels at better framerates...I'll take all of that over better graphics. :P

[QUOTE="Heirren"][QUOTE="tagyhag"] I think he means technical-wise. People seem to be expecting Avatar visuals.tagyhag

 

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For someone who understands something about hardware and what it actually does outside of "more memory good", I think they are.  If you look at the potential teraflop performance of current gen consoles compared to next gen there isn't a huge difference.  The new ps4 will just be more traditional architecture.  It will be able to multitask better.  Updated peripherals should allow for better functioning as far as chatting and multimedia and stuff like that.  The 360 is actually already good at these things.  It just is limited graphically.  The ps3 as far as a pure game machine is still not even maximizing what it can do.

I don't think there is going to be a huge jump next gen as far as quality in games.  I think games like uncharted, mlb the show, killzone, beyond two souls are already doing pretty amazing things.

 

I think next gen will be more about what this gen should have been hardware wise without the quirks that came along with this gen.  But I don't think we are going to see a huge bump in quality.  It will probably come along with it's own set of quirks as these comparnies really try to lock down their stuff.

Audacitron

Midway through nextgen, top-tier, big-budget games will approach 'Avatar'-level graphics.  There'll be just a few small giveaways that the educated eye can spot.  It's gonna make current-gen look like a mess of blurry textures, grass-cards and bad lighting.  It gets to the point where the only real limitation is the scope of developer ambition and the funds to make that happen.

What may also happen is a hollowing out where the market splits between low-budget indie titles and mega-budget event games, with vanishingly little middle ground. 

Hate to break it too you man but next gen consoles are quite a bit weaker then top of the line PC's currently.. 

For someone who understands something about hardware and what it actually does outside of "more memory good", I think they are.  If you look at the potential teraflop performance of current gen consoles compared to next gen there isn't a huge difference.  The new ps4 will just be more traditional architecture.  It will be able to multitask better.  Updated peripherals should allow for better functioning as far as chatting and multimedia and stuff like that.  The 360 is actually already good at these things.  It just is limited graphically.  The ps3 as far as a pure game machine is still not even maximizing what it can do.

I don't think there is going to be a huge jump next gen as far as quality in games.  I think games like uncharted, mlb the show, killzone, beyond two souls are already doing pretty amazing things.

 

I think next gen will be more about what this gen should have been hardware wise without the quirks that came along with this gen.  But I don't think we are going to see a huge bump in quality.  It will probably come along with it's own set of quirks as these comparnies really try to lock down their stuff.

Celtic_34

... It all depends on what they FOCUS on!!!! I hope its not GRAPHICS again as that will lead to more of the same, just looks somewhat better.  What developers need to get to now is 3 things

1. AI
2. Physics
3. choises that impact/chage the story, Multiple endings

 These will have a huge impact if done correctly.  The increase of these in games have been slow, limited by the focus on graphcis.  Graphics have grown a lot over the generations, and take up a lot of CPU GPU power. 

I would rather have games look like God of war on PS2 and have High level of AI and physics with multiple a change in story depending how a person plays.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="Heirren"] The visual upgrade will be big. I don't know why people are claiming otherwise. When 360 hit, people were saying the same thing. Going from Dead or Alive, Ninja Gaiden and Chaos Theory to the 360 had a similar effect. Heirren

Each previous generation was not only a jump over the current consoles, but even surpassed the PCs at the time of release.

This'll be the first gen that that is not the case. All which was demo'd at the PS4 event looked, and performed worse, than the best PC offerings currently available.

Sure, the average game will look better, but there will not be another Gears of War to blow everyone away including PC gamers. That just won't happen :(

I think so, but imo it's because this gen has been drawn out. 

If you were an early adopter, you're probably itching for some new hardware. 

The PS4 overall is about 8 to 10x the power of the PS3, not to mention its been about 7 years.  So no its not overhype, people that like videogames want new hardware its about time. 

next gen consoles will be equal to PC for a couple months  tops, then after 1 year you will be able to buy a better PC at half the price of a "next gen" ( lol ) console

next gen consoles will be equal to PC for a couple months  tops, then after 1 year you will be able to buy a better PC at half the price of a "next gen" ( lol ) console

ciorlandenis

buy a pc of equal performance for half the price?  Please STFU and GTFO. 

The jump will be bigger than many of you are assuming. 

Wii U is, PS4 isn't, & I don't know enough facts about 3rdbox to say if it is. 

the ai should improve tremendously.

They're not hyped at all >__>

Sony first party games are going to be glorious.

If Crysis3 is any indication, its the fact that gamers are not interested in how much GFX games can put out, especially if they mean little to the game design. Most of the more appreciated games this generation are not entirely technical marvels from an objective standpoint, but its how they manage to align their technical powers to the overall design of their games.

In the end, it is all down to the developers who are going to use these specifications to decide how best to use them, obviously it mean next gen GTA would play out much better, next gen Sport games, next gen Racers, next Gen Mass Effects, Uncharteds, Skyrims. Also if you factor that consoles do not require the same amount of raw power to process PC level visuals, you would arrive at an interesting average where every game next gen would make this current gen look like a total joke