Are the Portal games "FPSs" or not?

Seems like a lot of people have been correcting those that include either of the Portal games as a FPS. I don't get this, I always thought "FPS" was indicating that the game was played in a first person perspective, nothing else about the game had to do with it. Just cause it says shooter in the name doesn't mean it has to be about shooting bullets into people's head. One could be shooting Portals (like Portal) or kicks (like Mirror's Edge). What do you guys think? (and yeah I know this doesn't really matter much)

Yes, because Valve is a one trick pony that makes the same FPS over and over again.

You shoot portals and you play in first person perspective.

Just cause it says shooter in the name doesn't mean it has to be about shooting bullets into people's head. One could be shooting Portals (like Portal) or kicks (like Mirror's Edge).

paradigm68

Is Mario a third person shooter? It shoots fireballs after all. Do we really have to redefine what a shooter is?

Btw gamespot changed the category of this game now from first person puzzle to sci fi fps which is lame but hey, who cares anyway.

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Just cause it says shooter in the name doesn't mean it has to be about shooting bullets into people's head. One could be shooting Portals (like Portal) or kicks (like Mirror's Edge).

edidili

Is Mario a third person shooter? It shoots fireballs after all. Do we really have to redefine what a shooter is?

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Is Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrimm a first-person shooter?

Portal is a first-person puzzle game, you don't shoot things with guns in portal.

Is Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrimm a first-person shooter?

PannicAtack

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Just cause it says shooter in the name doesn't mean it has to be about shooting bullets into people's head. One could be shooting Portals (like Portal) or kicks (like Mirror's Edge).

paradigm68

Is Mario a third person shooter? It shoots fireballs after all. Do we really have to redefine what a shooter is?

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Mario is third person but nobody calls it third person shooter like they call Dead space. If you want to look so closely you can find a lot of puzzle, adventure, fighting games where you shoot "things". For me Portal is a pure puzzle game.

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Is Mario a third person shooter? It shoots fireballs after all. Do we really have to redefine what a shooter is?

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edidili

Mario is third person but nobody calls it third person shooter like they call Dead space. If you want to look so closely you can find a lot of puzzle, adventure, fighting games where you shoot "things". For me Portal is a pure puzzle game.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]It's not a shoorter, therefore it's not a first-person shooter. A shooter is an action-focused game. People calling it an FPS are being hyper-literal.ThatOneP0ster

You don't shoot enemies to finish the level, you solve puzzles to finish it. That's the core of the game. In what you call action, you just have to solve the puzzle faster before the situation becomes critical.

No. It's a puzzle game. Yes, it has a first-person perspective, but the game is centered around puzzle solving.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]It's not a shoorter, therefore it's not a first-person shooter. A shooter is an action-focused game. People calling it an FPS are being hyper-literal.ThatOneP0ster

EDIT: the quote got screwed up...

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[QUOTE="paradigm68"] Is Mario in a first person perspective? I was talking about games that are in first person, yet aren't being counted as FPSs just because some unique weapons or such.ThatOneP0ster

Mario is third person but nobody calls it third person shooter like they call Dead space. If you want to look so closely you can find a lot of puzzle, adventure, fighting games where you shoot "things". For me Portal is a pure puzzle game.

Exactly my point, yes you shoot but that's not the main purpose of the game. The goal is to solve a puzzle. It's not the way that you solve puzzles that define it's genre.

For example in angry birds you solve a puzzle by shooting a bird. That doesn't make it a shooter.

Are the main obstacles in the games puzzles or things that need to be shot?

Portal is a first-person puzzle game, you don't shoot things with guns in portal.

Yangire

even metroid prime should be considered a FPS more so then Portal, But it has always been known as a FPA (first person advanture)

So portal is pretty much a FPP (first person puzzle) or simply puzzle game

First person puzzle is a more appropriate title for it's sub-genre IMO.

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Is Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrimm a first-person shooter?

paradigm68

No it's not.

If the game is in first person and you shoot, it doesn't necessarily make it a first person shooter. Shooting could just be a small part of what makes a game. Metroid Prime, you shoot stuff. In fact you do a lot of shooting. But the entire game revolves around exploring your environment and solving puzzles. Also, you spend a third of the game in morph ball form. Shooting is just your tool to getting through the environment. We don't call Final Fantasy or Zelda hack and slashes, even though the main character uses a sword. Same rule applies to Mirrors Edge, Fallout 3 and even Portal.

I always thought "FPS" was indicating that the game was played in a first person perspective

paradigm68

So Might and Magic is a first-person shooter?

I'd say it's more of a first person adventure game with puzzle solving with portals being the core mechanic.

No, no, a thousand times no. People seem to live with the misconception that whenever a game takes place in first person perspective, and only briefly features something that remotely looks like a gun, it has to be an FPS. How come people rarely call Grand Theft Auto a TPS?

If you didn't know yet, you heard it here first: Portal is a puzzle game, Mirror's Edge is a platformer. Saying Portal is an FPS because you shoot portals with a gun from first person perspective is like saying FIFA 11 is an RPG because it has skill progression.

I don't get this, I always thought "FPS" was indicating that the game was played in a first person perspective, nothing else about the game had to do with it.paradigm68

Tell me, what does the 'S' in FPS stand for?

Yes, because Valve is a one trick pony that makes the same FPS over and over again.

Raymundo_Manuel

No, no, a thousand times no. People seem to live with the misconception that whenever a game takes place in first person perspective, and only briefly features something that remotely looks like a gun, it has to be an FPS. How come people rarely call Grand Theft Auto a TPS?

If you didn't know yet, you heard it here first: Portal is a puzzle game, Mirror's Edge is a platformer. Saying Portal is an FPS because you shoot portals with a gun from first person perspective is like saying FIFA 11 is an RPG because it has skill progression.

DraugenCP

If you check other websites (I really don't feel like posting them), but Mirror's Edge for example is called a "free-running FPS franchise" in interviews with EA. I don't care if it is a platformer. It can be a platformer-FPS-action game for all I care. Stop acting like a game has to fit under one genre. It's ridiculous.

It's a puzzle game... in first person.

I don't see the difficulty here.

It a First Person Puzzle game. It main focus is solving puzzles.

No, they are puzzle games that play in a first person perspective.

Yes, because Valve is a one trick pony that makes the same FPS over and over again.

Raymundo_Manuel

Ugh!! Not this again!!

Seriously, SW has spoken about it: it's not.

I would say that it is a First Person Action Puzzle. There are other games in a first personview that are not shooters like the Elder Scrolls games which they area first person rpg. In the game you fire portals and not projectile and these portals doesn't cause any damage to a object or anything while a bullet, rocket, shells, etc do.

Saying Portal is an FPS is worse than saying Metroid Prime 3: Corruption is an FPS. TehOverkill

It's not a FPS. Does it really matter though?SaltyMeatballs

I just have to ask, are you being serious in your sig saying NGP will be better than 3DS? I only ask this because you clearly liked the 3DS and had Oott 3ds gifs in your sig before :P.

Anyway, as said MANY times, Portal is an FPP (first Person Puzzler). It is NOT a shooter.

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]It's not a FPS. Does it really matter though?NaveedLife

I just have to ask, are you being serious in your sig saying NGP will be better than 3DS? I only ask this because you clearly liked the 3DS and had Oott 3ds gifs in your sig before :P.

i doubt anybody plays portal for how good it feels to shoot portals. its a puzzle game.LoG-Sacrament

Oh man....the feeling of that portal ball just flying out of my portal making machine and slapping against a wall....oh yeah thats the stuff :P.

First Portal Shooter it is...

I tried to make sense of what you're saying but I may have failed as it is impossible.

Ugh!! Not this again!!

Seriously, SW has spoken about it: it's not.

GreenGoblin2099