Are the Xbox 360 and PS3 just wanna be PC's?

Why do console owners seem to think that it costs so much to be a PC gamer. I guarantee that 98% of households own a PC as it is. I bet 75% of those are capable of playing even current games like Crysis 2, DA2, RIFT and Black Ops at resolution atleast equal if not a little higher than the consoles. Its not like every single PC gamer owns an uber gaming rig. I recently became very enamored with PC gaming and between my desktop and laptop I dont play any games at higher than 1366 x 768. PC buffs will scoff at that, but that is what my gear is capable of and it doesnt keep me from enjoying the vastness of PC games available in comaprison to consoles.

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

Can play the same game? You mean like God of War series? Uncharted series? Demon's Souls? Vanquish? inFamous?, etc. etc. etc. It always comes down to "graphics" with pc users, when it's been well established that the vast majority put gameplay first. Consoles are designed for gaming, and the best games are developed for consoles. That's logic.

Lucianu

Console gamers make more threads about graphics, on a daily basis.. It's like they are completely obsessed with graphics. One just needs to check out the forums, and if you ignore this simple fact, i'll just simply link you with all the threads concerning that of today only.

Best is subjective. You're wrong.

As someone from Bethesda said, "People who say graphics aren't important are lying". ;)

To say that console gamers don't care about graphics is :lol:. Just look at the argument that erupted when Xbox 360 people were saying Crysis 2 is the best looking console game ever.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

Can play the same game? You mean like God of War series? Uncharted series? Demon's Souls? Vanquish? inFamous?, etc. etc. etc. It always comes down to "graphics" with pc users, when it's been well established that the vast majority put gameplay first. Consoles are designed for gaming, and the best games are developed for consoles. That's logic.

TheMoreYouOwn

What do you think I was talking about when I said the same game? LOL.

I could play the same game too, Stracraft 2, Crysis, Crysis Warhead, the list goes on and on. LOL. And your term "best games" is "subjective". If you want go by rated exclusives then PC's easily takes the cake.

Got the definition right here, and my point, if you are so inclined:

The term "video game console" is used to distinguish a machine designed for consumers to buy and use solely for playing video games from a personal computer, which has many other functions, or arcade machines, which are designed for businesses that buy them and then charge others to play.

-source-

And? What does this have to do with PC's able to play the same game as consoles at MUCH HIGHER settings and resolutions.

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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] Or i could just go down to the store and buy it, rather, then wasting badwith, and electricity. Where the hell do you buy newly released games for 5 dollars. i just bought, just cause 2 and bullet storm for 20 bucks on my 360, steams idea of ripping off anyone not in US of a means i would have payed almost 120 dollars.Sandvichman

I brought Dirt 2 for $5 on Steam while the full retail price for a brand new Dirt 2 was AT LEAST $40 for a new copy. My computer's on all the time because I am working on it so it's not an issue for me but maybe too you. I saved money for games through Steam where on the consoles I would have to pay more.

Uh you do know that you could buy used copies of PC games too? And when I brought Dirt 2 the retail price for the console version was $40. Steam easily pwns consoles prices for new games. Could you have brought Serious Sam 2 HD for like $1.99 on the consoles? These are just some examples. Or Portal 2 for $44.99, instead of $60 for the console version.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="TheMoreYouOwn"]

Can play the same game? You mean like God of War series? Uncharted series? Demon's Souls? Vanquish? inFamous?, etc. etc. etc. It always comes down to "graphics" with pc users, when it's been well established that the vast majority put gameplay first. Consoles are designed for gaming, and the best games are developed for consoles. That's logic.

Xtasy26

Console gamers make more threads about graphics, on a daily basis.. It's like they are completely obsessed with graphics. One just needs to check out the forums, and if you ignore this simple fact, i'll just simply link you with all the threads concerning that of today only.

Best is subjective. You're wrong.

As someone from Bethesda said, "People who say graphics aren't important are lying". ;)

To say that console gamers don't care about graphics is :lol:. Just look at the argument that erupted when Xbox 360 people were saying Crysis 2 is the best looking console game ever.

Why so much hatred towards console gamers? I myself am a console gamer but I dont get angry when people brag about their "rigs" and how "terrible" console games are. When you think about it, we are all gamers and arguing over different platforms is retarded.

DillonShwing

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

What do you call a PC that runs Modern Warfare 2 and Black Ops in below-HD resolutions with lower graphical settings? A Xbox 360 or PS3!

What do you call a PC that runs Crysis 2 in below-HD resolutions with graphical settings less than "Hardcore"? A Xbox 360 or PS3!

I was talking to one of engineering classmates who now works at Microsoft and he was saying that they consider the Xbox 360 as "essentially a PC" that is VASTLY less powerful. If you really think about it's quite true.

killzoneded

What do you call a system that plays all PC games, looking stunning, for just 200$

Also has saved me more than 15.000$ in hadware and game buy costs (on consoles i can rent games)

I didn't realize Xbox 360 plays Crysis, Crysis Warhead, Starcraft...LOL. Your definition of "stunning" is subjective. A lot of us PC gamers call gaming at below-HD resolutoins or lame 720P as crap. They would much rather play games in FULL HD 1080P+ resolutions. To them that looks stunning than consoles lame resolutions.

And $15,0000 in hardware, that's :lol:.

[QUOTE="TheNforca"]

PC Fanboys.. Definitely the worst.

DillonShwing

This. Followed closely by Nintendo fanboys.

Well, as the saying goes, the "truth" sometimes hurts. It's not about "fanboyism", it's a thing called facts and realities.

Yeah.. a gimped pc that has a much longer life cycle, is cheaper, has no problems playing ANY games for the much longer life cycle then pc.. yup.. I'll stick with my gimped PC thanks. My real pc is a pain in the ass. fastr

I garauntee you that my PC will last longer than my 360 or PS3 and can play at least a hundred more games than either.

PC gamers aren't fanboys, in fact we are incapable of it, we are capable of d-baggery though.

PC gamers are ADVOCATES for a higher plane of gaming, which comes off as "elitist", but in the end ye must ascend to the PC or suffer forever at the fate of console gaming.

PC gamers aren't fanboys, in fact we are incapable of it, we are capable of d-baggery though.

PC gamers are ADVOCATES for a higher plane of gaming, which comes off as "elitist", but in the end ye must ascend to the PC or suffer forever at the fate of console gaming.

haberman13

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[QUOTE="fastr"]Yeah.. a gimped pc that has a much longer life cycle, is cheaper, has no problems playing ANY games for the much longer life cycle then pc.. yup.. I'll stick with my gimped PC thanks. My real pc is a pain in the ass. mrmusicman247

Your loss!

Money shouldn't be a barrier to a fun hobby (especially with how cheap PCs actually are, $1400 is nothing in the grand scheme)

likewise me me aswell

Not even close. Consoles are better then PC's. Enough saidhkymike

Why would they want to be pc's? Consoles are specifically for gaming. PC's aren't.TheMoreYouOwn

Not even close. Consoles are better then PC's. Enough saidhkymike

Because you say it then it must be true! Explain.

[QUOTE="hkymike"]Not even close. Consoles are better then PC's. Enough saidArach666

LOL

No they aren't, they are consoles not PC's.

Why so much hatred towards console gamers? I myself am a console gamer but I dont get angry when people brag about their "rigs" and how "terrible" console games are. When you think about it, we are all gamers and arguing over different platforms is retarded.

DillonShwing

Cause it's system wars.

And because...you know:

LMAO

I'd like to see a PC in the price range of a console come near the game quality.

I don't see why my fellow console gamers are getting so defensive over this. Of course they are just wanna be PCs. ITS OBVIOUS. Doesn't matter though as long as you enjoy what they have to offer.

As someone from Bethesda said, "People who say graphics aren't important are lying". ;)

To say that console gamers don't care about graphics is :lol:. Just look at the argument that erupted when Xbox 360 people were saying Crysis 2 is the best looking console game ever.

Xtasy26

I know. That's why it's extremely funny wen consolites tell me 'oh, graphics aren't important', and almost every single thread is about comparing console game's graphics. Every single one, 3 - 4 threads a day. They are far more obsessed with graphics than PC gamers, it's sad.

Anyway, i would argue that technically advanced graphics are not as important as putting effort in a artistic st yle in the visuals that are appealing to the eye, in this day. Don't think i'm speaking relatively, , i feel as if visuals that are appealing to the eye with a artistic st yle will live on forever, rather then visuals putting a basic colour pallete reminiscent of real life. (which will age horrificaly, example GTA IV looks like crap unmodded, no joke).

I see beauty in a lot of older games, and sometimes i'm extremely impressed. I think the beauty of the visuals is only in the eye of the beholder simply because liking one artst yle (every single game has a specific type, technical & artistical always go hand in hand) is subjective.

LMAO

I'd like to see a PC in the price range of a console come near the game quality.

360hammer

That's what great about PC gaming, you don't have to settle with such cheap inexpensive hardware.

[QUOTE="360hammer"]

LMAO

I'd like to see a PC in the price range of a console come near the game quality.

Grawse

That's what great about PC gaming, you don't have to settle with such cheap inexpensive hardware.

PC gamers aren't fanboys, in fact we are incapable of it, we are capable of d-baggery though.

PC gamers are ADVOCATES for a higher plane of gaming, which comes off as "elitist", but in the end ye must ascend to the PC or suffer forever at the fate of console gaming.

haberman13

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PC gamers aren't fanboys, in fact we are incapable of it, we are capable of d-baggery though.

PC gamers are ADVOCATES for a higher plane of gaming, which comes off as "elitist", but in the end ye must ascend to the PC or suffer forever at the fate of console gaming.

Vinegar_Strokes

[QUOTE="Vinegar_Strokes"][QUOTE="haberman13"]

PC gamers aren't fanboys, in fact we are incapable of it, we are capable of d-baggery though.

PC gamers are ADVOCATES for a higher plane of gaming, which comes off as "elitist", but in the end ye must ascend to the PC or suffer forever at the fate of console gaming.

Birdy09

PC gamers aren't fanboys, in fact we are incapable of it, we are capable of d-baggery though.

PC gamers are ADVOCATES for a higher plane of gaming, which comes off as "elitist", but in the end ye must ascend to the PC or suffer forever at the fate of console gaming.

haberman13

You really need smacked off your pedestal with a baseball bat, your are no higher than me nor an advocate for gaming, you are a gamer like the rest of us come back off the waccy juice and get bakc to reality.

Some of us dont care for PC becase....well we simply dont care.

Really people like you are the reason i destest hermits on here cause you always have to act better than everyone just like that kid with the band who's dad bought him a Gibson so every other guitar brand is then either cheap walmart or just inferior...even tho it does the same job and it comes down to preference.

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

PC gamers aren't fanboys, in fact we are incapable of it, we are capable of d-baggery though.

PC gamers are ADVOCATES for a higher plane of gaming, which comes off as "elitist", but in the end ye must ascend to the PC or suffer forever at the fate of console gaming.

razgriz_101

You really need smacked off your pedestal with a baseball bat, your are no higher than me nor an advocate for gaming, you are a gamer like the rest of us come back off the waccy juice and get bakc to reality.

Some of us dont care for PC becase....well we simply dont care.

Really people like you are the reason i destest hermits on here cause you always have to act better than everyone just like that kid with the band who's dad bought him a Gibson so every other guitar brand is then either cheap walmart or just inferior...even tho it does the same job and it comes down to preference.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

PC gamers aren't fanboys, in fact we are incapable of it, we are capable of d-baggery though.

PC gamers are ADVOCATES for a higher plane of gaming, which comes off as "elitist", but in the end ye must ascend to the PC or suffer forever at the fate of console gaming.

Sushiglutton

You really need smacked off your pedestal with a baseball bat, your are no higher than me nor an advocate for gaming, you are a gamer like the rest of us come back off the waccy juice and get bakc to reality.

Some of us dont care for PC becase....well we simply dont care.

Really people like you are the reason i destest hermits on here cause you always have to act better than everyone just like that kid with the band who's dad bought him a Gibson so every other guitar brand is then either cheap walmart or just inferior...even tho it does the same job and it comes down to preference.

I hope it come's to PC and Why no PC version anyone find these comments pretty common on GS

Not even close. Consoles are better then PC's. Enough saidhkymike

Yes, they are SO MUCH better that they run Black Ops and Crysis 2 in below-HD resolutions. :lol:

ditto - put a game in and play. No hassle no effort.R3FURBISHED

What's the difference on PC?

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[QUOTE="haberman13"]

PC gamers aren't fanboys, in fact we are incapable of it, we are capable of d-baggery though.

PC gamers are ADVOCATES for a higher plane of gaming, which comes off as "elitist", but in the end ye must ascend to the PC or suffer forever at the fate of console gaming.

Sushiglutton

You really need smacked off your pedestal with a baseball bat, your are no higher than me nor an advocate for gaming, you are a gamer like the rest of us come back off the waccy juice and get bakc to reality.

Some of us dont care for PC becase....well we simply dont care.

Really people like you are the reason i destest hermits on here cause you always have to act better than everyone just like that kid with the band who's dad bought him a Gibson so every other guitar brand is then either cheap walmart or just inferior...even tho it does the same job and it comes down to preference.

Since when do you have such great insight into haberman13's personal life that you think he is "inferior" in other "parts of his life". Are u psychic? Instead of disproving his points about the gaming platform at hand you are spouting nonsense about someone else's personal life that you have NO CLUE of.

LMAO

I'd like to see a PC in the price range of a console come near the game quality.

360hammer

AMD's upcoming Llano says...Hi! ;)

LOL

No they aren't, they are consoles not PC's.

Sagem28

But they run games at resolutions typical of a low-end PC.

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="hkymike"]Not even close. Consoles are better then PC's. Enough saidDanm_999

Well said. Stating facts is now considered 'elitists'. LOL.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Another 'PC's are superior and not dying' thread started by a PC gamer. Very original. KC_Hokie

Where did you read that?

There is a good reason why he does. If he were to post a problem related to his system we would require his sytem spec to base our answers.

It just makes the whole process of support that much efficient.

[QUOTE="360hammer"]

LMAO

I'd like to see a PC in the price range of a console come near the game quality.

Grawse

That's what great about PC gaming, you don't have to settle with such cheap inexpensive hardware.

Thats my point. You want the best you pay for it. Nothing wrong with that. I don't see how a console is a bad thing if your not into PC's and the knowledge involved. Honestly if you just want to play games and in a certain budget, a console is the way to go. It just comes down to personal preference. You gotta admit for the money range you just cannot beat a console.

[QUOTE="360hammer"]

LMAO

I'd like to see a PC in the price range of a console come near the game quality.

Xtasy26

AMD's upcoming Llano says...Hi! ;)

Do you honestly believe a cost effective GPU is going to level the playing field ? I still don't see that making PC gaming as cheap as a console. How about we stick to the now rather than speculate future releases to twist our favor shall we.

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

LOL

No they aren't, they are consoles not PC's.

Xtasy26

But they run games at resolutions typical of a low-end PC.

I can cut grass with sheers at a slower speed than a lawn mower, it doesn't make my sheers a lawn mower. Honestly, if you really thought long and hard about the differences and purposes of both the console and PC you would realize they are very, very different with 1 common purpose of gaming and multimedia which people compare. I think the biggest point missed here is the hardware is the same but the OS's each run and flexability of user control are worlds apart.

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[QUOTE="360hammer"]

LMAO

I'd like to see a PC in the price range of a console come near the game quality.

360hammer

AMD's upcoming Llano says...Hi! ;)

Do you honestly believe a cost effective GPU is going to level the playing field ? I still don't see that making PC gaming as cheap as a console. How about we stick to the now rather than speculate future releases to twist our favor shall we.

Oh I so beg to differ. ;) I will leave that for a different thread.