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#1 CaseyWegner
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this generation in CONSOLE SALES? the wii is absolutely stomping all over the 360. what's it going to take to change that? it'll need a miracle.

*sigh*

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#2 lawlessx
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nope..the wii has owned the 360 and the ps3
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#3 Apathetic-Irony
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this generation in CONSOLE SALES? the wii is absolutely stomping all over the 360. what's it going to take to change that? it'll need a miracle.

*sigh*

CaseyWegner

Nothing.

The Wii has mass market appeal. The 360 has superior games, superior online, and superior graphics. The only other thing they can do is provide Wi-fi and fix the issues with the hardware, but even then that wouldn't do much to make it appeal to the mass market.

We're comparing a Ferrari to a Prius.

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#4 CaseyWegner
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last thread got all ruined and stuff so here this is. >_>
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#5 Kahuna_1
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nope..the wii has owned the 360 and the ps3lawlessx

Worse for the 360 since it had more games at launch, first year, and 2nd year plus a 7 million system lead.

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#6 jbz7890
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PS3 will come in last. I have no doubts about that. As for the 360 and the Wii, its tough to say and it ultimatley depends on who gets the better games. Imo the Wii fad will begin to fade, and the 360 will finish first.
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#7 Eltroz
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Like I said in first thread. If MS hurries and does a better price cut then they can win. If not I think Wii will win. I do not see PS3 comming in 1st or 2nd though. But as it stands now.

1-Wii

2-360

3-PS3

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#8 dipper145
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everyone already knows the wii will win, and that the ps3 will be last
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#9 wiretoss
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PS3 will come in last. I have no doubts about that. As for the 360 and the Wii, its tough to say and it ultimatley depends on who gets the better games. Imo the Wii fad will begin to fade, and the 360 will finish first.jbz7890

Haha. Fad fad fad. :/
I think its sales numbers are WAY too big to be calling it a 'fad'.

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last thread got all ruined and stuff so here this is. >_>CaseyWegner

I dont understand... why did u change it? I gotta ask. Do u still compare PC sales to console cause I gotta know if u do and if u do how on earth can u do such a thing?

Also i think the Wii will slow down and the PS3 will rise and win this gen but not by much. People seem to know little of business really with how fast they think winners are official here. Wii is far from winning anything right now.

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#11 Lakers8342011
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this generation in CONSOLE SALES? the wii is absolutely stomping all over the 360. what's it going to take to change that? it'll need a miracle.

*sigh*

CaseyWegner

When it comes to software like accessories and games and XBOX live gold memberships the 360 is making way more than Nintendo overall.

You cant deny when it comes to best overall system XBOX is in first and whatever you say comes in second is actually a far distant second. 360 is the only systme that has a good list of exclusives and multiplats so far this gen.

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#12 JiveT
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I think Blu-ray will win people over and the hundred some million people that bought a PS2 will migrate over to PS3 in great enough numbers to dominate the market again. When this wll happen exactly is hard to pin down.
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#13 Lakers8342011
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

this generation in CONSOLE SALES? the wii is absolutely stomping all over the 360. what's it going to take to change that? it'll need a miracle.

*sigh*

Apathetic-Irony

Nothing.

The Wii has mass market appeal. The 360 has superior games, superior online, and superior graphics. The only other thing they can do is provide Wi-fi and fix the issues with the hardware, but even then that wouldn't do much to make it appeal to the mass market.

We're comparing a Ferrari to a Prius.

Yeah more Carrolas will sell more than the new Ferrari doesnt make it better.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

this generation in CONSOLE SALES? the wii is absolutely stomping all over the 360. what's it going to take to change that? it'll need a miracle.

*sigh*

Lakers8342011

When it comes to software like accessories and games and XBOX live gold memberships the 360 is making way more than Nintendo overall.

You cant deny when it comes to best overall system XBOX is in first and whatever you say comes in second is actually a far distant second. 360 is the only systme that has a good list of exclusives and multiplats so far this gen.

i'm talking about userbase.

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I think Blu-ray will win people over and the hundred some million people that bought a PS2 will migrate over to PS3 in great enough numbers to dominate the market again. When this wll happen exactly is hard to pin down.JiveT

you are absolutely right. the 360 will be over with sooner or later.

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I think Blu-ray will win people over and the hundred some million people that bought a PS2 will migrate over to PS3 in great enough numbers to dominate the market again. When this wll happen exactly is hard to pin down.JiveT

Their focus on BR is why they are losing funny...

Anyway PS3 will win cause of its games and etc.. in the end not Blu Ray

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#17 0rin
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It's not impossible for the 360 to come in first, but it is highly unlikely. I'd say 4 years down the road, we will see the 360 in last place in sales. The first two places are a toss up between the wii's incredibly low, competitive price, and the PS3's high value "future proof"ism. The truth is, I can't really make any solid "preditions" past that.

This isn't because I "OMG WANT THE 360 TO PHAIL". That has nothing to do with it. The 360 is a fine console, it's just that the failure rate is not helping its sales at all, and its sales have slowed way down this year compared to last, while the PS3 is just now picking up momentum. If you look at it from an outside prospective, you can see that microsoft is stumbling. While they could very well get back in the race, and blow all our minds and end up first, the liklihood of that happening is slim.
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#18 Hoffgod
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last thread got all ruined and stuff so here this is. >_>CaseyWegner
*ruffles Casey's hair* There there, Casey. There there. :P I don't think the 360 has what it takes to overtake the PS3, much less the Wii. The 360 is a non-factor in Japan and Europe is consistantly moving towards the PS3 camp, leaving the 360 with America and America alone. Now yeah, America is a huge market, but enough to counteract the rest of the world? I don't think so. 1. Wii 2. PS3 3. 360
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[QUOTE="jbz7890"]PS3 will come in last. I have no doubts about that. As for the 360 and the Wii, its tough to say and it ultimatley depends on who gets the better games. Imo the Wii fad will begin to fade, and the 360 will finish first.wiretoss

Haha. Fad fad fad. :/
I think its sales numbers are WAY too big to be calling it a 'fad'.

It is a fad.

People who don't play a lot of games buy it, play Wii sports a bit, buy a few games, and then it collects dust until the next time they need to wait 10 minutes before leaving for a party. Last year it was "Do you have a Wii? Can I come over?!!" and "I'm getting a Wii!". Now nobody talks about it.

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#20 im_different
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it will be first in sales. i bought one so i guess im no longer a lemming but really their 2 different categories. 360 is a console you get to hang out with friends online and play in hd while wii you get to play the 3 or 4 good games then ebay off for twice the price you bought it for.

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]last thread got all ruined and stuff so here this is. >_>kcpp2b

I dont understand... why did u change it? I gotta ask. Do u still compare PC sales to console cause I gotta know if u do and if u do how on earth can u do such a thing?

Also i think the Wii will slow down and the PS3 will rise and win this gen but not by much. People seem to know little of business really with how fast they think winners are official here. Wii is far from winning anything right now.

i changed it because i didn't want it to be a "does the pc count" thread. tracking sales of high performance video cards seems to have worked well in the past.

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#22 Sir-Marwin105
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Casey, you're not playing Mass Effect. :?
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[QUOTE="JiveT"]I think Blu-ray will win people over and the hundred some million people that bought a PS2 will migrate over to PS3 in great enough numbers to dominate the market again. When this wll happen exactly is hard to pin down.kcpp2b

Their focus on BR is why they are losing funny...

Anyway PS3 will win cause of its games and etc.. in the end not Blu Ray

The ability of the PS3 to play Blu-ray movies is it's single greatest feature. The games are a distant second because the 360 will always have an edge when it comes to the library. As HDTV adoption rates continue to soar the desire for people to watch Blu-ray (having Disney on lock is huge) material will go up along with it. Oh and it plays games too why not? No other console can do that this generation.

I still don't like the PS3 and prefer the 360 I just agree with the analysts that say PS3 will ultimately triumph.

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#24 kcpp2b
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[QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]last thread got all ruined and stuff so here this is. >_>CaseyWegner

I dont understand... why did u change it? I gotta ask. Do u still compare PC sales to console cause I gotta know if u do and if u do how on earth can u do such a thing?

Also i think the Wii will slow down and the PS3 will rise and win this gen but not by much. People seem to know little of business really with how fast they think winners are official here. Wii is far from winning anything right now.

i changed it because i didn't want it to be a "does the pc count" thread. tracking sales of high performance video cards seems to have worked well in the past.

Video Cards

Question then.

Well sales of video cards I assume are only for gaming PC's as count others would be laugable a.

Also does only one company make these video cards? Also do different companies make one for PC's then consoles.

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Casey, you're not playing Mass Effect. :?Sir-Marwin105

not at this very minute, no.

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#26 destef
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The Wee is a Next Gen Gamecube. It cost Nintendo next to nothing to produce because its based on last gen technology. Consumers are paying $150 too much. How could Nintendo not be winning the next gen race? Its a shame the Wee has to be considered next gen, because its not.
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#27 UssjTrunks
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Projected Sales:

Wii: 250 000 000

360: 30 000 000

PS3: 10 000 000
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[QUOTE="jbz7890"]PS3 will come in last. I have no doubts about that. As for the 360 and the Wii, its tough to say and it ultimatley depends on who gets the better games. Imo the Wii fad will begin to fade, and the 360 will finish first.wiretoss

Haha. Fad fad fad. :/
I think its sales numbers are WAY too big to be calling it a 'fad'.

remember beanie babies?

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[QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I think Blu-ray will win people over and the hundred some million people that bought a PS2 will migrate over to PS3 in great enough numbers to dominate the market again. When this wll happen exactly is hard to pin down.JiveT

Their focus on BR is why they are losing funny...

Anyway PS3 will win cause of its games and etc.. in the end not Blu Ray

The ability of the PS3 to play Blu-ray movies is it's single greatest feature. The games are a distant second because the 360 will always have an edge when it comes to the library. As HDTV adoption rates continue to soar the desire for people to watch Blu-ray (having Disney on lock is huge) material will go up along with it. Oh and it plays games too why not? No other console can do that this generation.

I still don't like the PS3 and prefer the 360 I just agree with the analysts that say PS3 will ultimately triumph.

when you sau the 360 "will always" have an edge in games, i hope you didn't mean "always."

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Well, as soon as the wii passed the 360 in sales, all the lemmings now say the wii is going to be first and the 360 second and PS3 third, while the Sheep just stand back and laugh at how badly the competition is doing compared to them, and the cows are saying JUST WAIT, we will PWN all of you
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[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"]Casey, you're not playing Mass Effect. :?CaseyWegner

not at this very minute, no.

I meant your sig. It says you are Now Playing 360- Mass Effect. Unless you changed something to your account, Desert Writer has not been on for 11 days. He was last seen playing Hitman.
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#32 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]last thread got all ruined and stuff so here this is. >_>kcpp2b

I dont understand... why did u change it? I gotta ask. Do u still compare PC sales to console cause I gotta know if u do and if u do how on earth can u do such a thing?

Also i think the Wii will slow down and the PS3 will rise and win this gen but not by much. People seem to know little of business really with how fast they think winners are official here. Wii is far from winning anything right now.

i changed it because i didn't want it to be a "does the pc count" thread. tracking sales of high performance video cards seems to have worked well in the past.

Video Cards

Question then.

Well sales of video cards I assume are only for gaming PC's as count others would be laugable a.

Also does only one company make these video cards? Also do different companies make one for PC's then consoles.

that's the assumed pattern. no. multiple companies make video cards. i think you know this.

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#33 Sir-Marwin105
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Projected Sales:

Wi: 250 000

360: 30 000

PS3: 10 000UssjTrunks
Those are pretty terrible projections.
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1.Wii

2.X360

3.PS3

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#35 100Gamer
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nope, but 360 will always have better games
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#36 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"]Casey, you're not playing Mass Effect. :?Sir-Marwin105

not at this very minute, no.

I meant your sig. It says you are Now Playing 360- Mass Effect. Unless you changed something to your account, Desert Writer has not been on for 11 days. He was last seen playing Hitman.

i haven't logged onto xbox live.

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#37 JiveT
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[QUOTE="JiveT"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I think Blu-ray will win people over and the hundred some million people that bought a PS2 will migrate over to PS3 in great enough numbers to dominate the market again. When this wll happen exactly is hard to pin down.biggamerhk

Their focus on BR is why they are losing funny...

Anyway PS3 will win cause of its games and etc.. in the end not Blu Ray

The ability of the PS3 to play Blu-ray movies is it's single greatest feature. The games are a distant second because the 360 will always have an edge when it comes to the library. As HDTV adoption rates continue to soar the desire for people to watch Blu-ray (having Disney on lock is huge) material will go up along with it. Oh and it plays games too why not? No other console can do that this generation.

I still don't like the PS3 and prefer the 360 I just agree with the analysts that say PS3 will ultimately triumph.

when you sau the 360 "will always" have an edge in games, i hope you didn't mean "always."

Yes the 360 will always have an edge in games over the other two consoles. Deal with it.

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last thread got all ruined and stuff so here this is. >_>CaseyWegner

Yeah, it got ruind alright lmao.

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#39 0rin
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Projected Sales:

Wi: 250 000

360: 30 000

PS3: 10 000UssjTrunks


I'm pretty sure you missed a couple zeroes, unless you're talking about Uganda's monthly sales?
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#41 Sir-Marwin105
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[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"]Casey, you're not playing Mass Effect. :?CaseyWegner

not at this very minute, no.

I meant your sig. It says you are Now Playing 360- Mass Effect. Unless you changed something to your account, Desert Writer has not been on for 11 days. He was last seen playing Hitman.

i haven't logged onto xbox live.

Ok. Now is the part I ask you about your opinion on the game. Awesome, Great, Good, Average, Bad, Terrible, Trash?
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[QUOTE="wiretoss"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]PS3 will come in last. I have no doubts about that. As for the 360 and the Wii, its tough to say and it ultimatley depends on who gets the better games. Imo the Wii fad will begin to fade, and the 360 will finish first.Apathetic-Irony

Haha. Fad fad fad. :/
I think its sales numbers are WAY too big to be calling it a 'fad'.

It is a fad.

People who don't play a lot of games buy it, play Wii sports a bit, buy a few games, and then it collects dust until the next time they need to wait 10 minutes before leaving for a party. Last year it was "Do you have a Wii? Can I come over?!!" and "I'm getting a Wii!". Now nobody talks about it.


:| Check the attachment rates. Wii's>>>PS3's. So what if the majority of Wii owners will never buy more than one game, the hardcore/true-casuals will more than compensate, seeing as the hardcore/Casual Wii owners probably outnumber the PS3 owners that bought it to play GAMES anyways!
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[QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]last thread got all ruined and stuff so here this is. >_>CaseyWegner

I dont understand... why did u change it? I gotta ask. Do u still compare PC sales to console cause I gotta know if u do and if u do how on earth can u do such a thing?

Also i think the Wii will slow down and the PS3 will rise and win this gen but not by much. People seem to know little of business really with how fast they think winners are official here. Wii is far from winning anything right now.

i changed it because i didn't want it to be a "does the pc count" thread. tracking sales of high performance video cards seems to have worked well in the past.

Video Cards

Question then.

Well sales of video cards I assume are only for gaming PC's as count others would be laugable a.

Also does only one company make these video cards? Also do different companies make one for PC's then consoles.

that's the assumed pattern. no. multiple companies make video cards. i think you know this.

Yes I do know this just trying to make a point. Ur now comparing various different companies to one console company each? That makes sense how?

On top of that ur talking about video cards, well dont similar or the same rather, companies make these cards for both systems?

My point is when u argue these kinds of things its like a game

Like the yankees vs. the red sox. Or if a race bring in some more teams to take place of MS Sony etc...

But ur talking about a match between the Leafs vs. the entire NHL, AHL European elite leagues, OHL etc... How is that any kind of ownage? What's the point in that? If there was this one company called PC that sold specific gaming rigs and sold $30 Mill of them since 2005 then that's different. Or for ur argument the ONE company made Cards

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[QUOTE="biggamerhk"][QUOTE="JiveT"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]I think Blu-ray will win people over and the hundred some million people that bought a PS2 will migrate over to PS3 in great enough numbers to dominate the market again. When this wll happen exactly is hard to pin down.JiveT

Their focus on BR is why they are losing funny...

Anyway PS3 will win cause of its games and etc.. in the end not Blu Ray

The ability of the PS3 to play Blu-ray movies is it's single greatest feature. The games are a distant second because the 360 will always have an edge when it comes to the library. As HDTV adoption rates continue to soar the desire for people to watch Blu-ray (having Disney on lock is huge) material will go up along with it. Oh and it plays games too why not? No other console can do that this generation.

I still don't like the PS3 and prefer the 360 I just agree with the analysts that say PS3 will ultimately triumph.

when you sau the 360 "will always" have an edge in games, i hope you didn't mean "always."

Yes the 360 will always have an edge in games over the other two consoles. Deal with it.

ahahaaha sure haha "always" give me a break. you wish

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#45 Eltroz
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[QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]last thread got all ruined and stuff so here this is. >_>CaseyWegner

I dont understand... why did u change it? I gotta ask. Do u still compare PC sales to console cause I gotta know if u do and if u do how on earth can u do such a thing?

Also i think the Wii will slow down and the PS3 will rise and win this gen but not by much. People seem to know little of business really with how fast they think winners are official here. Wii is far from winning anything right now.

i changed it because i didn't want it to be a "does the pc count" thread. tracking sales of high performance video cards seems to have worked well in the past.

Only problem with that is video cards are just a upgrade. It would be kinda like counting the new controller for PS3 even though they just wanted to upgrade the rumble. A person could go through a few video cards through out a console generation. That does not mean that many PCs were sold. My comp is not the best but I do play PC games and I have had my PC for a couple years now so if I bought a video card it would not be the same as if someone bought a 360. Either way though I will leave it alone now.
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"]Casey, you're not playing Mass Effect. :?Sir-Marwin105

not at this very minute, no.

I meant your sig. It says you are Now Playing 360- Mass Effect. Unless you changed something to your account, Desert Writer has not been on for 11 days. He was last seen playing Hitman.

i haven't logged onto xbox live.

Ok. Now is the part I ask you about your opinion on the game. Awesome, Great, Good, Average, Bad, Terrible, Trash?

awesome

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[QUOTE="jbz7890"]PS3 will come in last. I have no doubts about that. As for the 360 and the Wii, its tough to say and it ultimatley depends on who gets the better games. Imo the Wii fad will begin to fade, and the 360 will finish first.beavisofcod2

Haha. Fad fad fad. :/
I think its sales numbers are WAY too big to be calling it a 'fad'.

remember beanie babies?

Hell yeah. Beanie Babies were awesome. I'd still buy 'em today if they still made em en masse like they used to. Now it's just the same old recycled bear design over and over.
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[QUOTE="wiretoss"]

[QUOTE="jbz7890"]PS3 will come in last. I have no doubts about that. As for the 360 and the Wii, its tough to say and it ultimatley depends on who gets the better games. Imo the Wii fad will begin to fade, and the 360 will finish first.Apathetic-Irony

Haha. Fad fad fad. :/
I think its sales numbers are WAY too big to be calling it a 'fad'.

It is a fad.

People who don't play a lot of games buy it, play Wii sports a bit, buy a few games, and then it collects dust until the next time they need to wait 10 minutes before leaving for a party. Last year it was "Do you have a Wii? Can I come over?!!" and "I'm getting a Wii!". Now nobody talks about it.

o_o That's very silly. I know MANY MANY people who don't have Wiis and are still all over it. I know people that are casuals that play their Wii more often than I do sometimes.

I still just see the term 'fad' being used by people ashamed of their own console. But whatever. ;/

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Yes I do know this just trying to make a point. Ur now comparing various different companies to one console company each? That makes sense how?

On top of that ur talking about video cards, well dont similar or the same rather, companies make these cards for both systems?

My point is when u argue these kinds of things its like a game

Like the yankees vs. the red sox. Or if a race bring in some more teams to take place of MS Sony etc...

But ur talking about a match between the Leafs vs. the entire NHL, AHL European elite leagues, OHL etc... How is that any kind of ownage? What's the point in that? If there was this one company called PC that sold specific gaming rigs and sold $30 Mill of them since 2005 then that's different. Or for ur argument the ONE company made Cards

kcpp2b

it's system wars...not company wars. the pc counts as one system.

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#50 Dante2710
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nope...the wii will come first....well it seems likely