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#51 SakusEnvoy
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[QUOTE="Seiki_sands"]

No, the graphics are not overhyped.

They are quite impressive for a handheld device.

They follow an old tradition among certain handhelds of being ~ 1 generation behind current consoles (almost). The Vita has caught a break since this generation is going to last a bit longer than most, making it seem all the more impressive as it overlaps the PS3. Though I do agree it's not quite a portable PS3/360 machine from what I've seen, but within a range that's similar to PSP to PS2 or in other words, close enough to impress me.

Much like the Game Gear, Sega Nomad, Turbo-Express, Atari Lynx, and Sony PSP, all of which were about one generation behind their respective consoles at the time of release.

Nintendo is actually a bit unusual in that they are often closer to two generations behind in graphics hardware rather than one generation, which has allowed them historically to price cheaper and attract more support. In the past it also allowed them advantages in battery life, which they've abandoned for 3D capability.

nameless12345

I'm not saying it's not impressive for a handheld, I'm simply saying that those statements how it'll match - or even outperform - the current home consoles (not counting the Wii) is false.

Correct, it will not match or overperform the current home consoles. It does not have the technical capability to do so... neither does any other mobile device.

I think SCEA's senior staff developer, addressing the notion that the Vita would be as powerful as the PlayStation 3, said it best: "That's not true. That couldn't be true. The things would burst on fire in your hands or something."

(http://www.gamespot.com/news/6339649/ps-vita-3g-20mb-download-cap-confirmed)

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#52 loosingENDS
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I doubt it is anywhere close to PS3 or xbox 360 in power

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#53 Grawse
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Anything backed by cows is overhyped.

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#54 loosingENDS
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Anything backed by cows is overhyped.

Grawse

Indeed, PS3 was supposdly far more powerfull than 360 and look what happened wityh Crysis 1-2, BF3 etc

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#55 SakusEnvoy
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[QUOTE="Grawse"]

Anything backed by cows is overhyped.

loosingENDS

Indeed, PS3 was supposdly far more powerfull than 360 and look what happened wityh Crysis 1-2, BF3 etc

I hope folks don't point the finger at Sony this time, though. They've been nothing but upfront about the system's internals and relative power.

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#56 lulmont
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Well I should hope it has good graphics that thing isn't even a handheld.

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#57 PAL360
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Graphics look incredible for a handheld but i dont think they can compete with 360/PS3 ones.

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#58 Gue1
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No, more like underrated.

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#59 Gue1
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[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Vita has twice the graphical cores of the iPhone 4s.

painguy1

too bad all its games look like PS1 games

If this http://youtu.be/Ge9fmPaT0wc?hd=1 looks like a PS1 game to you then you clearly need to get your eyes checked. Let alone the fact that the screen is a freaking OLED for god's sake. :lol:

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#60 loosingENDS
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Graphics look incredible for a handheld but i dont think they can compete with 360/PS3 ones.

PAL360

Indeed, it would melt if it could do xbox 360/PS3 visuals

Maybe the next gen of handhelds will though, if they manage to do better in heat supression and chip sizes

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#61 starjet905
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[QUOTE="Grawse"]

Anything backed by cows is overhyped.

loosingENDS

Indeed, PS3 was supposdly far more powerfull than 360 and look what happened wityh Crysis 1-2, BF3 etc

What happened with that? Dunno about Crysis, but BF3 looks way better on PS3. XBOX360 has CRAP textures.
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#62 Kaszilla
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Yes, I agree, only a few vita games like uncharted and lpb look near ps3 level but thats because of the art style not the tech.
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#63 eyebrows
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PS Vita's graphics are going to be the same to the PS3 as the PSP was to the PS2. PS Vita has more ram, just as the clock speed of the PSP was 333mhz vs 297mhz for the PS2. Basically just as the PSP never looked as good as the best looking PS2 games, it came damn close which is incredible. The PS Vita will probably perform the same during its lifespan compared with the PS3 from an overall perspective.

I could get more technical but I do not need to as all most people need to know is that just as when the PSP was released in terms of raw power and potential, there's nothing on the market that can top the PS Vita upon release, its graphics will own.

Poncho_Hachacha

My sentiments exactly. And even without the added hype fromSony and their fanboysthis is shaping up to be my fav, or at least most anticipated, piece of gaming hardware out.

Totally agree, also with the new format they're going with hopefully load times will be at least cut in half compared with the PSP. I remember when I had Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition and the load times were over a minute to load each race and the same for just restarting a race if you screwed up. Argh, what painful memories.

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#64 r12qi
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the vita graphics are amazing for a handheld.

the lineup so far is really really trash though i only see really hardcore gamers like its slineup, theres not something for everyone

Mario1331

there is actually Better console lounch lineup up comapre To vita? we have game that cover all bases ranging from quick minigame to console like experinced

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#65 l34052
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I cant actually believe people are falling for this again, every single time hook line and sinker without fail. You should all know by now people how much sony talks their products up and how more often than not they turn out ok but nothing like what we were led to believe it would be (ps3 with built in router anyone...).

I have a 3ds and im more than happy with it, its not a super power house no but it does what it does well and the 3d fro me atleast adds a whole different layer to things.

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#66 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Grawse"]

Anything backed by cows is overhyped.

starjet905


Indeed, PS3 was supposdly far more powerfull than 360 and look what happened wityh Crysis 1-2, BF3 etc

What happened with that? Dunno about Crysis, but BF3 looks way better on PS3. XBOX360 has CRAP textures.



Really ?

http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head-battlefield-3-screenshot-comparison/

Xbox 360 BF3 seems to have far better textures, lighting, shadows and AA







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#67 vtbob88
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My first reaction to the videos showing the vita's graphics "Damn, is it really that big? and yet it is supposed to be a handheld and carried around with you?" Yeah, the graphics are good, but if I need a big fanny pack with me to carry it doesn't that defeat the "hardcore" image of owning something from sony rather than nintendo? I'd rather just carry my handheld in my pocket

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#68 SakusEnvoy
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Graphics look incredible for a handheld but i dont think they can compete with 360/PS3 ones.

loosingENDS

Indeed, it would melt if it could do xbox 360/PS3 visuals

Maybe the next gen of handhelds will though, if they manage to do better in heat supression and chip sizes

Probably won't have to wait an entire generation... smartphones should pass current consoles in no more than 3 years.

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#69 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

the vita graphics are amazing for a handheld.

the lineup so far is really really trash though i only see really hardcore gamers like its slineup, theres not something for everyone

r12qi

there is actually Better console lounch lineup up comapre To vita? we have game that cover all bases ranging from quick minigame to console like experinced

i dont understand your question the lineup does not interest me and many others,

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#70 vashkey
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The vita in general is over hyped on these boards.
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#71 r12qi
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[QUOTE="r12qi"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

the vita graphics are amazing for a handheld.

the lineup so far is really really trash though i only see really hardcore gamers like its slineup, theres not something for everyone

Mario1331

there is actually Better console lounch lineup up comapre To vita? we have game that cover all bases ranging from quick minigame to console like experinced

i dont understand your question the lineup does not interest me and many others,

fine. doesnt mean it bad line up :P. what you think the BEST launch line up so far

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#72 elbert_b_23
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Vita in general is overhyped.

You'd think this thing was the second coming or something.

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what do you expect nintendo been the kings of handheld gaming since the 80ies and all of the nintendo haters always try to overhype other handhelds hoping one day they will knock down the king
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#73 starjet905
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="r12qi"]

there is actually Better console lounch lineup up comapre To vita? we have game that cover all bases ranging from quick minigame to console like experinced

r12qi

i dont understand your question the lineup does not interest me and many others,

fine. doesnt mean it bad line up :P. what you think the BEST launch line up so far

What he says is true. Vita doesn't have a strong lineup that can sell, because most aren't pick up and play like the 3DS lineup. Vita is not for everyone. But that is exactly why I'll be going for the Vita. I just hate most of the kinda stylus-happy games that come out for the 3DS.
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#74 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Graphics look incredible for a handheld but i dont think they can compete with 360/PS3 ones.

SakusEnvoy

Indeed, it would melt if it could do xbox 360/PS3 visuals

Maybe the next gen of handhelds will though, if they manage to do better in heat supression and chip sizes

Probably won't have to wait an entire generation... smartphones should pass current consoles in no more than 3 years.

Which means they have a 9 years gap overall, comparing to home consoles

Or that would take handhelds until 2022 or more to match the next gen PS4 and xbox720

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#75 r12qi
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[QUOTE="r12qi"]

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

i dont understand your question the lineup does not interest me and many others,

starjet905

fine. doesnt mean it bad line up :P. what you think the BEST launch line up so far

What he says is true. Vita doesn't have a strong lineup that can sell, because most aren't pick up and play like the 3DS lineup. Vita is not for everyone. But that is exactly why I'll be going for the Vita. I just hate most of the kinda stylus-happy games that come out for the 3DS.

ugh everyone said this. teahnically Vita have more pick up and play

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#76 starjet905
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[QUOTE="starjet905"][QUOTE="r12qi"]

fine. doesnt mean it bad line up :P. what you think the BEST launch line up so far

r12qi

What he says is true. Vita doesn't have a strong lineup that can sell, because most aren't pick up and play like the 3DS lineup. Vita is not for everyone. But that is exactly why I'll be going for the Vita. I just hate most of the kinda stylus-happy games that come out for the 3DS.

ugh everyone said this. teahnically Vita have more pick up and play

Err, like what, perhaps?
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#77 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="r12qi"]

there is actually Better console lounch lineup up comapre To vita? we have game that cover all bases ranging from quick minigame to console like experinced

r12qi

i dont understand your question the lineup does not interest me and many others,

fine. doesnt mean it bad line up :P. what you think the BEST launch line up so far

fair enough its no bad just dont interest me, best launch lineup to me handhelds included i would have to say PS2 or N64, launch lineups are relatively mediocre but they had more then ONE game i owned at the time

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#78 r12qi
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[QUOTE="r12qi"]

[QUOTE="starjet905"] What he says is true. Vita doesn't have a strong lineup that can sell, because most aren't pick up and play like the 3DS lineup. Vita is not for everyone. But that is exactly why I'll be going for the Vita. I just hate most of the kinda stylus-happy games that come out for the 3DS.starjet905

ugh everyone said this. teahnically Vita have more pick up and play

Err, like what, perhaps?

little deviant, escape plan. sound shape. smart as. LBP and modnation racer can be count because nature of it's gameplay

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#79 stizz-
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^ you can put the system in sleep mode, so technically every game is pick up and play.

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#80 starjet905
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[QUOTE="starjet905"][QUOTE="r12qi"]

ugh everyone said this. teahnically Vita have more pick up and play

r12qi

Err, like what, perhaps?

little deviant, escape plan. sound shape. smart as. LBP and modnation racer can be count because nature of it's gameplay

Fair enough. Even the PSP had few that can be counted as pick up and play, but compared to DS ones, they weren't as much. Looking at the 3DS lineup: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_3DS_games There are many pick-up and play games, some that can be even considered shovelware.
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#81 AmazonTreeBoa
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That's funny. I haven't seen anybody trying to say the vita is more powerful than the PS3. I thought it was common knowledge that it will not be as powerful as the PS3.
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#82 incuensuocha
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Of course the Vita isn't as powerful as a PS3, but it isn't supposed to be. Vita was designed to offer the best HANDHELD experience. At the moment I think it's very hard to argue that Vita doesn't offer the best graphics in a portable. If something is the best at something, how can it be overrated? That's like saying the PC's graphics are overrated. The PC is the best in graphics, period. So how can it be overrated when there is nothing to compete against it? Same with Vita.
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#83 loosingENDS
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That's funny. I haven't seen anybody trying to say the vita is more powerful than the PS3. I thought it was common knowledge that it will not be as powerful as the PS3. AmazonTreeBoa

I have seen a huge number of posts about beeing as powerfull as PS3 myself

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#84 r12qi
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[QUOTE="r12qi"]

[QUOTE="starjet905"] Err, like what, perhaps?starjet905

little deviant, escape plan. sound shape. smart as. LBP and modnation racer can be count because nature of it's gameplay

Fair enough. Even the PSP had few that can be counted as pick up and play, but compared to DS ones, they weren't as much. Looking at the 3DS lineup: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_3DS_games There are many pick-up and play games, some that can be even considered shovelware.

sure but how many fo those annouced before launch.

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#85 AmazonTreeBoa
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[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]That's funny. I haven't seen anybody trying to say the vita is more powerful than the PS3. I thought it was common knowledge that it will not be as powerful as the PS3. loosingENDS

I have seen a huge number of posts about beeing as powerfull as PS3 myself

Then they are post from misinformed posters. Anybody that actually keeps up with this stuff knows the Vita is not as powerful as the PS3. But it does have more memory than the PS3, so I see it being able to do some things better. Like bigger levels for example. Of course I am only guessing here. It will be a very interesting handheld, that's for sure.
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#86 incuensuocha
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]That's funny. I haven't seen anybody trying to say the vita is more powerful than the PS3. I thought it was common knowledge that it will not be as powerful as the PS3. AmazonTreeBoa

I have seen a huge number of posts about beeing as powerfull as PS3 myself

Then they are post from misinformed posters. Anybody that actually keeps up with this stuff knows the Vita is not as powerful as the PS3. But it does have more memory than the PS3, so I see it being able to do some things better. Like bigger levels for example. Of course I am only guessing here. It will be a very interesting handheld, that's for sure.

Sony has never, ever said that Vita is as powerful than the PS3. Posters can say what they want, that doesn't make it credible information.
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#87 brennanhuff
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I have to admit I am interested in the Vita. I still think the PSP graphics look pretty good. Are the graphics overhyped? Around here, I would say ANYTHING Sony is overhyped.

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#88 Joedgabe
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The graphics are pretty high for a Portable so I would say no the graphics are not overhyped. It doesn't have the PS3 graphics however it's going to obviously be the handheld with the highest graphics by a long shot so the developers might be able to squeeze some interesting things with that.

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#89 painguy1
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[QUOTE="painguy1"]

[QUOTE="Mr_BillGates"]

Vita has twice the graphical cores of the iPhone 4s.

Gue1

too bad all its games look like PS1 games

If this http://youtu.be/Ge9fmPaT0wc?hd=1 looks like a PS1 game to you then you clearly need to get your eyes checked. Let alone the fact that the screen is a freaking OLED for god's sake. :lol:

That clearly looks like a PS1 game

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#90 lbjkurono23
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It's got the best graphics on a handheld, so whether it's being overhyped or not isn't important.

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#91 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Vita needs to fall back on "better graphics" constantly as a selling point. Overhyped, it is.

PSP sang the same song against the DS. Look how that ended.

mmmwksil

3DS is doing the same with it's 3d...