Are we supposed to believe nintendo can do online properly when..

They can't patch a small but very annoying exploit out of their own games? Here is the exploit in question..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnv62Yk_moc

here is the response from nintendo.

"Thanks for your patience in waiting for a response during this busy time of year. We are aware that it is possible to navigate a certain part of the track in Wuhu Island in a way that allows a large part of the course to be bypassed. There are no plans to update the game to remove this shortcut as doing so would create an unfair advantage for the users of the original release of the game. Rest assured your comments have been added to our records for Mario Kart 7."

Are they serious? Is it that hard to force people to update to play online? Between this, friend codes and general lack of a proper online structure for the Wii how can we believe that nintendo would be able to create a good online structure for the Wii U? Reggie said it would have a "robust" online experience, but when you can't do something as simple as patch exploits I really do doubt this. Anyone else agree?

They are ancient when it comes to this.

Let's hope they do something about that with the WiiU.

Ninty didn't care about that massive grumble volcano shortcut in MKWii so I doubt they care about this shortcut either.

You have a good point. So far Nintendo is failing when it comes to online. I let it slide past with the Wii but I wont with Wii U. I need a good online. The deciding factors for me next gen is third party support and online. To be honest though, its one bug in the entire game. Nintendo is pretty good in making sure there are minimal bugs, you gotta admit.

You're acting as if Nintendo has never patched a game before... :?

Also, It's not like all of Sony or Microsoft's first party games are completely glitch free...

well for one it's not exactly Game Breaking, and two I hardly see anyone actually doing that.

Anyway, Despite Patches and what not You can't deny that the 3DS's Online is certainly smoother than the Wii's.

Heck I find matches on Street Fighter IV faster than my PS3 version.

The 3DS online is a Nintendo system. They are collaborating with EA, Ubisoft, VALVe, etc. for the Wii U. Assuming their past performance is an indication of the future is downright ignorant. You aren't looking at the whole picture, nor waiting to see what they come up with before passing judgement. Typical fanboy behavior.foxhound_fox

Seriously? I haven't passed judgement on anything, I simply asked how do they expect us to believe they will have a proper online structure when they won't even patch something as simple as this.

You're acting as if Nintendo has never patched a game before... :?

Also, It's not like all of Sony or Microsoft's first party games are completely glitch free...

D4W1L4H

Well I don't know what game they have patched before could you tell me? Also I never said anything about glitches (since I know almost all games have them these days) I am merely commenting on nintendo's stance in terms of dealing with said glitch

[...] I simply asked how do they expect us to believe they will have a proper online structure [...]GD1551

[QUOTE="GD1551"][...] I simply asked how do they expect us to believe they will have a proper online structure [...]foxhound_fox

How is that passing judgement? Passing judgement would be saying the Wii U's online would be **** without seeing anything about it.

[QUOTE="D4W1L4H"]

You're acting as if Nintendo has never patched a game before... :?

Also, It's not like all of Sony or Microsoft's first party games are completely glitch free...

GD1551

Well I don't know what game they have patched before could you tell me? Also I never said anything about glitches (since I know almost all games have them these days) I am merely commenting on nintendo's stance in terms of dealing with said glitch

of the games I played:

• Zelda: Skyward sword
• Metroid: Other M
• Pokemon Leaf green/Fire red
• Pokemon Emerald
• 3DS Street Pass
• Twilight Princess

By the way, your OP can be based aroung loads of games, not only Mario Kart. This is not a Nintendo exclusive problem.

Their online service and online is terrible. Not only that but it takes forever to load which is why I think Nintendo should just stay away from making a multimedi device, if they're gonna do online, they should do it right.shadowchronicle

The almighty Dreamcast provided better online multi-player than the Wii. Nintendo needs to step their game up. :P

Isn't this because lack of patching system in Wii and 3DS? It's not just online system (not to mention they could just place files on HTTP server, they know how to do it :p), but firmware feature, system need to know how to install patch and execute updated files. Hopefully they implement one on WiiU

[QUOTE="shadowchronicle"]Their online service and online is terrible. Not only that but it takes forever to load which is why I think Nintendo should just stay away from making a multimedi device, if they're gonna do online, they should do it right.D4W1L4H

[QUOTE="shadowchronicle"]Their online service and online is terrible. Not only that but it takes forever to load which is why I think Nintendo should just stay away from making a multimedi device, if they're gonna do online, they should do it right.D4W1L4H

How is that passing judgement? Passing judgement would be saying the Wii U's online would be **** without seeing anything about it.GD1551

[QUOTE="D4W1L4H"][QUOTE="shadowchronicle"]Their online service and online is terrible. Not only that but it takes forever to load which is why I think Nintendo should just stay away from making a multimedi device, if they're gonna do online, they should do it right.Eponique

[QUOTE="GD1551"]How is that passing judgement? Passing judgement would be saying the Wii U's online would be **** without seeing anything about it.foxhound_fox

It's not only based on that, it's based on their implementation of online features up until now. When you have a bad track record it tends to stick.

When you have a bad track record it tends to stick.GD1551

[QUOTE="GD1551"]When you have a bad track record it tends to stick.foxhound_fox

Sorry but you may not have read my thread or the title properly, I have not once passed judgement on the Wii U's online structure, if you want to keep saying that then I will question your ability to read. If you think I am inferring that, then I'm straight up telling you I'm not. It's hilarious you even called me a fanboy in your first post considering the amount of sony hating you do then run and hide behind other systems (mostly the 360) when it's convenient.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="D4W1L4H"]

You're acting as if Nintendo has never patched a game before... :?

Also, It's not like all of Sony or Microsoft's first party games are completely glitch free...

D4W1L4H

Well I don't know what game they have patched before could you tell me? Also I never said anything about glitches (since I know almost all games have them these days) I am merely commenting on nintendo's stance in terms of dealing with said glitch

of the games I played:

• Zelda: Skyward sword
• Metroid: Other M
• Pokemon Leaf green/Fire red
• Pokemon Emerald
• 3DS Street Pass
• Twilight Princess

By the way, your OP can be based aroung loads of games, not only Mario Kart. This is not a Nintendo exclusive problem.

/thread

the 3DS is a next gen system. there is no excuse for such a poor online structure in this day & age, smh.LP4EVA2005

same here, the 3DS should be top notch with online at this point, and I think they kinda got there since many are praising it. But to the TC, this is a really good topic but I wouldn't be too worried. I think the Wii U will have a really good online structure since NIN is finally get some advice/help from the companies who know how online works. 3DS was a good step in the right direction tho, not flawless, but a step no doubt.

What I'm worried more is that they bring Wii Speak back in the form of how it operates on the Wii, did not enjoy that. I would prefer a headset or bluetooth like PS3/Xbox.

[QUOTE="LP4EVA2005"]the 3DS is a next gen system. there is no excuse for such a poor online structure in this day & age, smh.babycakin

same here, the 3DS should be top notch with online at this point, and I think they kinda got there since many are praising it. But to the TC, this is a really good topic but I wouldn't be too worried. I think the Wii U will have a really good online structure since NIN is finally get some advice/help from the companies who know how online works. 3DS was a good step in the right direction tho, not flawless, but a step no doubt.

What I'm worried more is that they bring Wii Speak back in the form of how it operates on the Wii, did not enjoy that. I would prefer a headset or bluetooth like PS3/Xbox.

[QUOTE="babycakin"]

[QUOTE="LP4EVA2005"]the 3DS is a next gen system. there is no excuse for such a poor online structure in this day & age, smh.D4W1L4H

same here, the 3DS should be top notch with online at this point, and I think they kinda got there since many are praising it. But to the TC, this is a really good topic but I wouldn't be too worried. I think the Wii U will have a really good online structure since NIN is finally get some advice/help from the companies who know how online works. 3DS was a good step in the right direction tho, not flawless, but a step no doubt.

What I'm worried more is that they bring Wii Speak back in the form of how it operates on the Wii, did not enjoy that. I would prefer a headset or bluetooth like PS3/Xbox.

oh really? I didn't know they had headsets for it :o I'm even more excited for Wii U now :D !!

They can't patch a small but very annoying exploit out of their own games? Here is the exploit in question..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnv62Yk_moc

here is the response from nintendo.

"Thanks for your patience in waiting for a response during this busy time of year. We are aware that it is possible to navigate a certain part of the track in Wuhu Island in a way that allows a large part of the course to be bypassed. There are no plans to update the game to remove this shortcut as doing so would create an unfair advantage for the users of the original release of the game. Rest assured your comments have been added to our records for Mario Kart 7."

Are they serious? Is it that hard to force people to update to play online? Between this, friend codes and general lack of a proper online structure for the Wii how can we believe that nintendo would be able to create a good online structure for the Wii U? Reggie said it would have a "robust" online experience, but when you can't do something as simple as patch exploits I really do doubt this. Anyone else agree?

GD1551

Here's to ignoring that Nintendo fixed a GAME BREAKING bug that ruined your save! :roll:

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

They can't patch a small but very annoying exploit out of their own games? Here is the exploit in question..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnv62Yk_moc

here is the response from nintendo.

"Thanks for your patience in waiting for a response during this busy time of year. We are aware that it is possible to navigate a certain part of the track in Wuhu Island in a way that allows a large part of the course to be bypassed. There are no plans to update the game to remove this shortcut as doing so would create an unfair advantage for the users of the original release of the game. Rest assured your comments have been added to our records for Mario Kart 7."

Are they serious? Is it that hard to force people to update to play online? Between this, friend codes and general lack of a proper online structure for the Wii how can we believe that nintendo would be able to create a good online structure for the Wii U? Reggie said it would have a "robust" online experience, but when you can't do something as simple as patch exploits I really do doubt this. Anyone else agree?

bbkkristian

Here's to ignoring that Nintendo fixed a GAME BREAKING bug that ruined your save! :roll:

Didn't they do that through a firmware update rather than a straight game update?

You know what's sad? back in the '90s, if you found a shortcut like this on Yoshi's Valley or Rainbow Road, it was the greatest thing ever, and even your frinds found it hilarious. Now that online exists and it is possible for companies to fix these little glitches, everyone just hates people using them. Online ruined multiplayer for me.

Who knows? I'm sure Nintendo will at least take some proper steps towards a better infrastructure and service, but I don't care.

I know I'm in the minority on this one, but I wouldn't care if Nintendo ditched online all together. Yep, I said it. I have enough places to get my online fix and tbh I prefer the single player and local multiplayer experience.

Of course thats just me. :oops:

The almighty Dreamcast provided better online multi-player than the Wii. Nintendo needs to step their game up. :P

Tikeio

Pretty much.

In my entire life of gaming online (around 13 years) I have never experienced online as bad as the Wii or DS.

I thought 3DS could do patches though? Unlike the Wii.SaltyMeatballs

It can. For all we know we could be getting some sort of patch, could not be.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]When you have a bad track record it tends to stick.foxhound_fox

I thought 3DS could do patches though? Unlike the Wii.SaltyMeatballs

MK7 released before the firmware update that allows patching so they can't patch it, or something like that, I think.

When you have a bad track record it tends to stick.GD1551

That's an easy one. Nintendo has always had superior to, or on par, graphics compared to its competitors. But everyone still assumes that Wii U won't have acceptable hardware in 2012 just because of Wii, one console.

Track records are meaningless on gaming forums, people have short term memory. On the flipside, Sony is praised for making powerful hardware, again based on one console, yeah let's forget PS1 and PS2.

Learn to provide decent arguments.

I don't believe it and likely to resemble something like this...

:P

I am assuming you had this ame argument before this gen right? "How can we expect 360 or PS3 to have great online when their previous consoles didn't, and they couldn't even patch everything that happened. No way I believe that this next gen will do something better than what the current gen is doing."

The Maka Wuhu track just needs to be taken off the playlist. Perhaps they can do that, and then rerelease along with the rumored MK7 DLC. I can't believe people still spam this track though. 1. It is boring. 2. EVERYBODY knows of the glitch. 3. Most of the time the spammers aren't even good at the game !

Having tried a few online games with the Wii sure makes me think they cant. Heil68

LMAO! Nintendo be trollin :P. Seriously this is super lame, but I don't care too too much given its only going to affect me on one course and only online (friends won't do it).