Are we supposed to believe nintendo can do online properly when..

Having tried a few online games with the Wii sure makes me think they cant. Heil68

and I will repeat what I posted before, did you have this same attitude before the 360 and PS3? I don't remember the ps2 or xbox having all the online components that this gen has, but we didn't all think they couldnt do it based off the past

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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

They can't patch a small but very annoying exploit out of their own games? Here is the exploit in question..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnv62Yk_moc

here is the response from nintendo.

"Thanks for your patience in waiting for a response during this busy time of year. We are aware that it is possible to navigate a certain part of the track in Wuhu Island in a way that allows a large part of the course to be bypassed. There are no plans to update the game to remove this shortcut as doing so would create an unfair advantage for the users of the original release of the game. Rest assured your comments have been added to our records for Mario Kart 7."

Are they serious? Is it that hard to force people to update to play online? Between this, friend codes and general lack of a proper online structure for the Wii how can we believe that nintendo would be able to create a good online structure for the Wii U? Reggie said it would have a "robust" online experience, but when you can't do something as simple as patch exploits I really do doubt this. Anyone else agree?

GD1551

Here's to ignoring that Nintendo fixed a GAME BREAKING bug that ruined your save! :roll:

Didn't they do that through a firmware update rather than a straight game update?

[QUOTE="Heil68"]Having tried a few online games with the Wii sure makes me think they cant. vtbob88

and I will repeat what I posted before, did you have this same attitude before the 360 and PS3? I don't remember the ps2 or xbox having all the online components that this gen has, but we didn't all think they couldnt do it based off the past

I'll leave it to you to figure out which witch is which. :P

Now, that isn't to say N can't do better but I dunno, we'll see next gen.

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[QUOTE="Heil68"]Having tried a few online games with the Wii sure makes me think they cant. SecretPolice

and I will repeat what I posted before, did you have this same attitude before the 360 and PS3? I don't remember the ps2 or xbox having all the online components that this gen has, but we didn't all think they couldnt do it based off the past

I'll leave it to you to figure out which witch is which. :P

Now, that isn't to say N can't do better but I dunno, we'll see next gen.

I really don't see the difference, both ways are still looking at the past and saying that they can't do something because they didn't do it last time. Same thign as saying "Can we really believe the 3D graphics will work on the N64 when they aren't even doing them on the SNES." Just because they havnt yet doesnt mean in the future they won't be able to. It was Nintendo's first foray into online so of course they learned, the 3DS is already much better than the Wii

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[QUOTE="vtbob88"]

and I will repeat what I posted before, did you have this same attitude before the 360 and PS3? I don't remember the ps2 or xbox having all the online components that this gen has, but we didn't all think they couldnt do it based off the past

vtbob88

I'll leave it to you to figure out which witch is which. :P

Now, that isn't to say N can't do better but I dunno, we'll see next gen.

I really don't see the difference, both ways are still looking at the past and saying that they can't do something because they didn't do it last time. Same thign as saying "Can we really believe the 3D graphics will work on the N64 when they aren't even doing them on the SNES." Just because they havnt yet doesnt mean in the future they won't be able to. It was Nintendo's first foray into online so of course they learned, the 3DS is already much better than the Wii

Forgetabout it. :P

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[QUOTE="vtbob88"]

and I will repeat what I posted before, did you have this same attitude before the 360 and PS3? I don't remember the ps2 or xbox having all the online components that this gen has, but we didn't all think they couldnt do it based off the past

vtbob88

I'll leave it to you to figure out which witch is which. :P

Now, that isn't to say N can't do better but I dunno, we'll see next gen.

I really don't see the difference, both ways are still looking at the past and saying that they can't do something because they didn't do it last time. Same thign as saying "Can we really believe the 3D graphics will work on the N64 when they aren't even doing them on the SNES." Just because they havnt yet doesnt mean in the future they won't be able to. It was Nintendo's first foray into online so of course they learned, the 3DS is already much better than the Wii

since when is a shortcut in a mario kart track considered a glitch that needs patching?

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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Apples &* oranges if ya ask me since one is a dedicated VG company Only and frankly needing to be brought kicking & screaming to on-line gaming and the other is the largest Software maker in the world where the internet use has been one of the highest priority for umteen years and has only recently got into the VG console biz and created XBL in 2001 which was way ahead of it's time for a VG console and than further refined the experience.

I'll leave it to you to figure out which witch is which. :P

Now, that isn't to say N can't do better but I dunno, we'll see next gen.

meetroid8

I really don't see the difference, both ways are still looking at the past and saying that they can't do something because they didn't do it last time. Same thign as saying "Can we really believe the 3D graphics will work on the N64 when they aren't even doing them on the SNES." Just because they havnt yet doesnt mean in the future they won't be able to. It was Nintendo's first foray into online so of course they learned, the 3DS is already much better than the Wii

Difference is online has turned all of us into raving lunatics.

[QUOTE="meetroid8"][QUOTE="vtbob88"]

I really don't see the difference, both ways are still looking at the past and saying that they can't do something because they didn't do it last time. Same thign as saying "Can we really believe the 3D graphics will work on the N64 when they aren't even doing them on the SNES." Just because they havnt yet doesnt mean in the future they won't be able to. It was Nintendo's first foray into online so of course they learned, the 3DS is already much better than the Wii

WiiCubeM1

Difference is online has turned all of us into raving lunatics.

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[QUOTE="meetroid8"] PS2 and XBox met the standards for online for their time. Nintendo never has. That is the difference.meetroid8

Difference is online has turned all of us into raving lunatics.

I think I'm just stuck in the past. Never before online have I heard so many people complaining about the technical issues of a game that they have to hate on an entire company for lacking in a couple departments, like online. It takes the fun out of playing a game and turns it into a mess I don't want a part of.

Nintendo can do it, eventually. It seems to take Nintendo a gen or so to adapt to methods and technologies applied by their competitors. For example, they took a back seat with CDs and went with carts for the N64, and that cost them a good bit of marketshare back in the day. Eventually, they got with the program and used CDs for the Gamecube - no DVD player, but at least they were finally using discs.

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Difference is online has turned all of us into raving lunatics.

WiiCubeM1

I think I'm just stuck in the past. Never before online have I heard so many people complaining about the technical issues of a game that they have to hate on an entire company for lacking in a couple departments, like online. It takes the fun out of playing a game and turns it into a mess I don't want a part of.

Online that is... I hate online.

[QUOTE="GD1551"]When you have a bad track record it tends to stick.SuperFlakeman

That's an easy one. Nintendo has always had superior to, or on par, graphics compared to its competitors. But everyone still assumes that Wii U won't have acceptable hardware in 2012 just because of Wii, one console.

Track records are meaningless on gaming forums, people have short term memory. On the flipside, Sony is praised for making powerful hardware, again based on one console, yeah let's forget PS1 and PS2.

Learn to provide decent arguments.

1. People don't believe the Wii U would have acceptable hardware in 2012 because of the rumored specs, and the fact that it's merely getting ports of current gen games so far not because the Wii came before it.

2. Where are you seeing those praising sony for making powerful hardware all the time? They may get praise for the PS3's power but I highly doubt people are referring to the PS1/PS2.

You couldnt pay me to play online games on the Wii or any future Nintendo console.

Nintendo is just sooooo far behind in online gaming that they will never catch up.

since when is a shortcut in a mario kart track considered a glitch that needs patching?

enzyme36

It's not a legit shortcut....

Part of me says they should fix that.

The other part: Not repeating myself as I've said this in many threads before.