Are you surprised by games which don't have online features but gain AAA status?

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#51 dont-read-this
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I wish I could punch someone anytime mentioned multiplayer is mandatory, you're the people ruining gaming.
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#52 mgs_freak91
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I only care about single player experiences, I'd take issue if a game got down rated simply because it didn't have multiplayer.

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Agreed. Multiplayer is a great addition, but a core single player game shouldn't have to have an online feature just so it can be rated what the game deserves. Single player experiences are just full of win, then comes split-screen gaming (ah the good old days) and then, at the end, only multiplayer gaming. Though that is just me.
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#53 Swift_Boss_A
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Games used to be good before online gaming, you know.charizard1605
I guess you mean last gen or the gen before that, console gaming wise of course. I do somewhat agree, before devs used to concentrate on making the solo experience much better, it was always the main focus but this gen for most games it seems to be the after-thought. That's why I am surprised when games with no online features get AAA, like inFMAOUS for example, it's the main reason I bought the game, lol. Granted it's tons of fun I do feel it's slightly overrated, still a great singleplayer experience. I know singleplayer alone is not enough, I agree that's why I feel games need to have extra's to add replay-value, but never to over shadow the main experience which is what's happening with games with online play. Dev's are cutting back on the singleplayer experience to add generic online multiplayer and crap, sadly gamers and reviewers are eating it up.
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#54 PublicNuisance
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Clearly online is a big part of this gen and games that don't come with such features usually have a hard time getting noticed compared to games with online features. It has almost become mandatory for games to have some form of online integration to stand out, singleplayer experiences just doesn't do it for most anymore. I also believe gamers, or system warriors (lol) feel more safe hyping a game for AAA status if it has online play. What do you guys reckon? Does Online play further helps the game to gain AAA status?Swift_Boss_A

I ma not surprised. Online is not required for a game to be great. I actually prefer to have no online than one that feels tacked on.

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#55 ozzdog123
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A singleplayer game does not need online play, and people who critize a game for not having online should just shut up and stick with the multiplayer focused games like CoD and Halo.

A game like Bioshock, Batman or Devil May Cry does not need online and should never be critized for not having it.

After all would you prefer the dev waste time tacking on a crap online mode, or focus on making the singleplayer experince even better?

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sadly, Bioshock 2 has multi...

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#57 -RPGamer-
Member since 2002 • 34283 Posts

No, I'm more surprised when half hearted campaign titles get AA/AAA simply b/c a MP component was tacked on.

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#58 Gxgear
Member since 2003 • 10425 Posts

Online only enhances the experience, if the core gameplay itself is not good already it would just fail miserably online anyways. You don't slap online on just to make it good, GOW is the perfect example.

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#59 PatchMaster
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Online multiplayer is a nice perk, but it is by no means necessary. A lack of online support really shouldn't count against a game's score either. If anything the focus on multiplayer this gen has hurt what games are all about. Single player stories/campaigns are by far more important and shouldn't be sacrificed in any way because or multiplayer or even co-op.

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#60 Superzone
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Games were fine without online back in the day, and games without online a still fine today. Super Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, amd Uncharted are three of the best games this gen and none of them had online anything. If a game doesn't have online multiplayer, who cares. If the single player is fantastic nothing else matters to me.
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#61 chaplainDMK
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Yea, if the story has lots of replay value sure. But something like CoD without MP would be catasrophic phailtastic fail :D

To me eaven Bioshock was a big kick in the you know what when it scored 9s... I mean it wasnt free roaming, nothing realy revolutionary etc. I mean story was fantastic but it was still classic 10-15 hour story only...

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#62 imprezawrx500
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no decent sp should instantly mean no more than a 6 no matter how good the online is unless it is a cheap game which is just about mp like tf2. sp is far more important than online. online has done nothing good only bad things like killing split screen and making the sp game rubbish.
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#63 dakan45
Member since 2009 • 18819 Posts
NO, there is no need for multiplayer for an amazing experience, i am suprised that only mp games get so high ratings.
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#64 t3hTwinky
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You don't need online to have a lot of fun and to get a lot of value out of a purchase.

What does surprise me are games that suck but gain some form of critical acclaim.

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#65 psn8214
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Not every game needs multiplayer. I would greatly prefer a quality singleplayer to quality multiplayer in most of the games I play.

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#66 clone01
Member since 2003 • 29845 Posts

not at all. most of my favorite games this gen are single player.

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#67 StrawberryHill
Member since 2008 • 5321 Posts

I prefer games without online features...some of the best story-driven pc games are ones without an online option. A game should gain AAA status because it's an exceptional game...not because it has online features. I'm not surprised at all.

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#68 darth-pyschosis
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Are you surprised by games which don't have good offline features but gain AAA status? like 3 hour SP modes

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#69 dakan45
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You don't need online to have a lot of fun and to get a lot of value out of a purchase.

What does surprise me are games that suck but gain some form of critical acclaim.

t3hTwinky
I loved that game... so i dont care what you think sucks and what you dont, and i think halo sucks more than anything but the game gets insanelly high scores and no reviewer complains about the same things that they do complain in other games.
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#70 Swift_Boss_A
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Are you surprised by games which don't have good offline features but gain AAA status? like 3 hour SP modes

darth-pyschosis
Well I can't think of such game but if it ever did happen then it's pretty obvious that it muct be the BEST more EPIC 3 hours to ever be played in a videogame.
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#71 DaBrainz
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I'm more surprised at games with 5 hour single player campaigns getting AAA status.

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#72 t3hTwinky
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[QUOTE="t3hTwinky"]

You don't need online to have a lot of fun and to get a lot of value out of a purchase.

What does surprise me are games that suck but gain some form of critical acclaim.

dakan45

I loved that game...

Well congratulations, you loved a crappy game.

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#73 krunkfu2
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Honestly, if RE5 hadn't been so focused on co-op I think it could've been a much better game.

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#74 murat8
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actually what i hate more is tacked on online i rather them use that time for an extra level or character or whatever
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#75 mudman91878
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Replayability is a factor when scoring a game. If a game lacks replayability, it should receive a lower score, period.

That said, if a game doesn't have multiplayer, or has a really bad multiplayer, then it should be really hard for that game to score highly. Games being as expensive as they are, shouldn't be just a few hours long. If a game is 10 hrs, and is only worth playing once or twice, it should be scored lower than a game with a multiplayer that's worth playing for hundreds of hours, regardless of how great that 10 hrs is.

Basically, if one game scores a 9 and another game scores an 8, then that should mean that I'm getting a better experience for my money than the game rated as an 8.

A game shouldn't necessarily be scored lower for not having multiplayer, but it should be HAMMERED if it doesn't have replayability.

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#76 bokiloki
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metal gear solid 3 is the greatest game of all time. nuff said. /THREAD

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#77 mgkennedy5
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Of course it helps a games score, beause it can potentially add a huge amount of replayability. I don't think that all games need online. RPGs (Oblivion) tend to have enough content for a single player only experience. Same with many action games
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#78 dakan45
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[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="t3hTwinky"]

You don't need online to have a lot of fun and to get a lot of value out of a purchase.

What does surprise me are games that suck but gain some form of critical acclaim.

t3hTwinky

I loved that game...

Well congratulations, you loved a crappy game.

An 8.5 is not crap, its you just trolling it :( With the same logic assasin creed is also crap, is it?
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#79 truegamer1988
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i don't care of online multiplayer on consoles lol. Compared to pc console's on line multi-player is lame (imo) I purchased my console for single player only I don't give a s**t about online. I have my online multiplayer strictly on my pc and that's where it belongs

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#80 bigblunt537
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I'm surprised that a game that didn't have multiplayer didn't get AAA. I thought Uncharted was the best gaming experience I had this gen, but whatever Uncharted 2 looks like it will hit that AAA status from GS that it deserved lol

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#81 foxhound_fox
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No. Because online in every case (aside from racing games) is just icing on the cake, an unnecessary, but welcome addition to a singleplayer experience.

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#82 Espada12
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Those are normally the best games for the year.

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#83 LOXO7
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It's easier for the devs to make a game with online, IF everyone thinks it adds plus hours into gaming with that game. Games with only single player have to have a long play time or else put online on it. It's cheaper to add a tacky online if necessary.
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#84 t3hTwinky
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[QUOTE="t3hTwinky"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] I loved that game... dakan45

Well congratulations, you loved a crappy game.

An 8.5 is not crap, its you just trolling it :( With the same logic assasin creed is also crap, is it?

No, 8.5 is a number, Farcry 2 is crap. It's crap because it has lousy gunplay, wimpy driving, and a faux sandbox enviornment made up of enclosed linear tracks linking small areas together each with perpetually respawning enemies. And yes, through deductive reasoning one can conclude that Assassin's Creed is also crap.

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#85 Swift_Boss_A
Member since 2007 • 14579 Posts

Honestly, if RE5 hadn't been so focused on co-op I think it could've been a much better game.

krunkfu2
Totally agree, more proof that Capcom is going casual this gen sadly. RE5 didn't feel like a proper sequel, I could have forgiven it for that but emphasis on co-op killed it for me. Now I wouldn't have minded separate co-op missions like in NGS2 but putting it in the main story !? talk about fail, having a partner accompany you throughout the game totally takes away from the RE experience, especially if the partner is as annoying as Sheva. Another reason why devs are forcing online features on games that don't require them, on some games it's understandable but RE didn't need it.