aren't sheep the ones who said...

[QUOTE="V_Zarnold_N"][QUOTE="thrones"]

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Medal of Honor: Heroes 2

Best console control scheme for an FPS this gen.

ogvampire

he said "console" control scheme

EDIT: although i do agree with you, i hate playing FPS on consoles, but the Wii control scheme works well

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="V_Zarnold_N"][QUOTE="thrones"]

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Medal of Honor: Heroes 2

Best console control scheme for an FPS this gen.

V_Zarnold_N

he said "console" control scheme

EDIT: although i do agree with you, i hate playing FPS on consoles, but the Wii control scheme works well

you actually cant. you cant get any type of kb/m control to use for games on the ps3/360.

[QUOTE="Willy105"]

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]Sheep were all about graphics last gen. Now they've changed their tune for teh gameplay scheme because it is convenient for them.Panzer_Zwei

Why would we be all for graphics last gen when the Xbox was more powerful? Sure, the Gamecube had the advantage over the PS2 in graphics, but it was hardly anything to brag about being 2nd place.

We were over half all about games. After all, 3 GOTY's. New Gamespot record.

Sheep were all over graphics When the RE remake came out, with Metroid Prime, and with their last stand that was RE4. Did you already forgot the countless threads of sheep claiming graphical superiority? I sure don'.

It was the sheep who were always fighting over graphics with the lemmings. That's all they did because of the patethic third party support the GC had and long droughts.

If sheep aready forgot it, then they have very selective memory.

Because we had a game that looked better than the avarage Xbox game? What would make you think it couldn't be done better on the Xbox?

I have been here for a while, and I remember how things were back then. I was part of it.

I actually liked defending the Gamecube more than the Wii. We had more ammunition that worked.

When we got RE4, we had the right to say that we had the best game of the year at the time, because we were right.

When RE4 was ported to PS2, we had the right to say that the Gamecube version had better graphics, because we were graphics. In fact, the Gamecube game has real-time cutscenes. The PS2 one didn't. It couldn't do them in real-time.

But gameplay was always first.

I think people are forgetting that "Sheep" aren't a single entity. I've always though graphics aren't anywhere near as important as gameplay and I've never hyped Conduit. I think it looks incredibly generic.

[QUOTE="WhatTheDunk"]Shooters must stay on PS3, 360, or PC. The Wii's online capabilities are horrible, not to mention graphics play a big role in shooters. Wii is good for the hybrid shooters such as MP3.Willy105

Really? I wonder how we have beared to play a FPS on a standard def console with Direct3D over the past 10 years.

FPS must have first came out in the last two years or something....

Well back in the last generations, the grapics were considered good. Same with this generation, PC sets the standard.

[QUOTE="Willy105"]

[QUOTE="WhatTheDunk"]Shooters must stay on PS3, 360, or PC. The Wii's online capabilities are horrible, not to mention graphics play a big role in shooters. Wii is good for the hybrid shooters such as MP3.WhatTheDunk

Really? I wonder how we have beared to play a FPS on a standard def console with Direct3D over the past 10 years.

FPS must have first came out in the last two years or something....

Well back in the last generations, the grapics were considered good. Same with this generation, PC sets the standard.

It doesn't make a FPS on a Wii completely useless. The PC will ALWAYS be the place for FPS, because it's hardware complements the genre.

So shouldn't there be no FPS at all on consoles?

because it's a chance to own everyone who said the wii has bad graphics.shoeman12

really?

[QUOTE="shoeman12"]because it's a chance to own everyone who said the wii has bad graphics.MikeE21286

really?

People need to learn the difference between BAD graphics and DATED graphics.

Zelda TP had good graphics, because it looked good to the eye. But it had DATED graphics because it has a relatively low polygon count from a technical side.

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

[QUOTE="shoeman12"]because it's a chance to own everyone who said the wii has bad graphics.Willy105

really?

People need to learn the difference between BAD graphics and DATED graphics.

Zelda TP had good graphics, because it looked good to the eye. But it had DATED graphics because it has a relatively low polygon count from a technical side.

Bad graphics in comparison to PS3/360 games......bad is a comparison word, so is good.

Zelda TP might have good graphics in comparison to other Wii games.....but not PS3/360 games.

It's not like it made the game unplayable or whatever

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]Sheep were all about graphics last gen. Now they've changed their tune for teh gameplay scheme because it is convenient for them.ogvampire

like how graphics didnt matter last gen to cows, but now all of sudden does?

cows and sheep traded places it seems

Those are fanboys for you :D

[QUOTE="Willy105"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

[QUOTE="shoeman12"]because it's a chance to own everyone who said the wii has bad graphics.MikeE21286

really?

People need to learn the difference between BAD graphics and DATED graphics.

Zelda TP had good graphics, because it looked good to the eye. But it had DATED graphics because it has a relatively low polygon count from a technical side.

Bad graphics in comparison to PS3/360 games......bad is a comparison word, so is good.

Zelda TP might have good graphics in comparison to other Wii games.....but not PS3/360 games.

It's not like it made the game unplayable or whatever

No. It makes it dated.

There are plenty of ugly Xbox 360 and PS3 games that look a lot worse than some Wii games. Not because of the highest polygons and fancy shaders, but because it just looks plain ugly.

Wii games will never be more advanced than a 360 or PS3 game in graphics. That's a fact. But that doesn't make it that it can't look better than them.

i dont think wii owners ever said graphics didn't matter :|

they just said gameplay mattered more than graphics.

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]Sheep were all about graphics last gen. Now they've changed their tune for teh gameplay scheme because it is convenient for them.Willy105

Why would we be all for graphics last gen when the Xbox was more powerful? Sure, the Gamecube had the advantage over the PS2 in graphics, but it was hardly anything to brag about being 2nd place.

We were over half all about games. After all, 3 GOTY's. New Gamespot record.

. . .Wow, so this site still uses the words "Cow/ Sheep"? Odd. . . .old too.

Anyway, I don't get what your trying to say. What, can't people praise a games look when thats all they know about it? Grh will always be 2nd to gameplay (unless you just want to look at high poly crap with no care for gameplay . . . inwhich case you might want to save $50 and go see a Disney movie).

Praising a dev who steps up and says "HEY! You other a-hole devs and pubs are shifting the Wii! We want to be the ones to set the bar for what a Wii game can look like!" is not saying grh is more than gameplay at all. People are just happy to see someone actually TRY to advance the looks to something thats more than PS2 port looking. Grh aint over gameplay but that doesn't mean Nintendo fans want games to look like s*** either. Even if this games gameplay blows they can still help out over all by showing people that the Wii can do better than PS2/ GC ported crap.

Really, this "debate" is old and lame. . .

i challenge sheep ,go to GS recent review and tell me what you think of the score WII games get, than maybe you will understand what happen when you dont have either no good graphics and bad gameplay.legol1

wait. im confused. so they "dont have either no good graphics and bad gameplay"

nice double negative. so you are saying that Wii games have good graphics and dont have bad gameplay

[QUOTE="legol1"]i challenge sheep ,go to GS recent review and tell me what you think of the score WII games get, than maybe you will understand what happen when you dont have either no good graphics and bad gameplay.ogvampire

wait. im confused. so they "dont have either no good graphics and bad gameplay"

nice double negative. so you are saying that Wii games have good graphics and dont have bad gameplay

haha :P

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and Medal of Honor: Heroes 2

Best console control scheme for an FPS this gen.

thrones

i agree.

If you ask me, Sheep are the most well-behaved and least hypocritical faction in System Wars. TC, you're probably just generalizing.Floppy_Jim

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]If you ask me, Sheep are the most well-behaved and least hypocritical faction in System Wars. TC, you're probably just generalizing.Rhubarb9

while true. i think he meant as a whole. the TP incident was one of the few examples

all fanboys change their tune when it's convenient

besides, i don't know why people are hyping the conduit's graphics......they look like garbage to me

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]Sheep were all about graphics last gen. Now they've changed their tune for teh gameplay scheme because it is convenient for them.ogvampire

like how graphics didnt matter last gen to cows, but now all of sudden does?

cows and sheep traded places it seems

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]Sheep were all about graphics last gen. Now they've changed their tune for teh gameplay scheme because it is convenient for them.shadyd1717

like how graphics didnt matter last gen to cows, but now all of sudden does?

cows and sheep traded places it seems

i was just pointing out an example of fanboy hypocrisy, i have no idea what else youre ranting about

[QUOTE="shadyd1717"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]Sheep were all about graphics last gen. Now they've changed their tune for teh gameplay scheme because it is convenient for them.ogvampire

like how graphics didnt matter last gen to cows, but now all of sudden does?

cows and sheep traded places it seems

i was just pointing out an example of fanboy hypocrisy, i have no idea what else youre ranting about

why are 360 and PS3 owner all hype about teh graphxxsss when the PC is clearly superior?air_wolf_cubed

Because if PC was so superior it would have lots of games out by now that looked better than KZ2.

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]why are 360 and PS3 owner all hype about teh graphxxsss when the PC is clearly superior?Ilived

Because if PC was so superior it would have lots of games out by now that looked better than KZ2.

crysis?

[QUOTE="Ilived"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]why are 360 and PS3 owner all hype about teh graphxxsss when the PC is clearly superior?6matt6

Because if PC was so superior it would have lots of games out by now that looked better than KZ2.

crysis?

[QUOTE="Ilived"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]why are 360 and PS3 owner all hype about teh graphxxsss when the PC is clearly superior?6matt6

Because if PC was so superior it would have lots of games out by now that looked better than KZ2.

crysis?

I said a lot...or at least a few games, but it only has ONE. Sure these things take time, but for what it it's worth...pc gaming isn't showing it's superiority right now.

[QUOTE="enygma500"]

but in my experience with metriod prime 3 the wii is not made for fps.

darkslider99

If the Wii was made for FPS, we'd see more than 2 good ones out by now. The Wii isn't made for FPS IMO.

[QUOTE="darkslider99"][QUOTE="enygma500"]

but in my experience with metriod prime 3 the wii is not made for fps.

NFS102

If the Wii was made for FPS, we'd see more than 2 good ones out by now. The Wii isn't made for FPS IMO.

[QUOTE="Ilived"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]why are 360 and PS3 owner all hype about teh graphxxsss when the PC is clearly superior?6matt6

Because if PC was so superior it would have lots of games out by now that looked better than KZ2.

crysis?

[QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="shadyd1717"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]Sheep were all about graphics last gen. Now they've changed their tune for teh gameplay scheme because it is convenient for them.shadyd1717

like how graphics didnt matter last gen to cows, but now all of sudden does?

cows and sheep traded places it seems

i was just pointing out an example of fanboy hypocrisy, i have no idea what else youre ranting about

last gen cows said that graphics didnt really matter, but now this gen it sure matter alot.

that is a prime example of hypocrisy. i dont know how you see otherwise? do you even know what it means?

[QUOTE="shadyd1717"][QUOTE="ogvampire"][QUOTE="shadyd1717"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]Sheep were all about graphics last gen. Now they've changed their tune for teh gameplay scheme because it is convenient for them.ogvampire

like how graphics didnt matter last gen to cows, but now all of sudden does?

cows and sheep traded places it seems

i was just pointing out an example of fanboy hypocrisy, i have no idea what else youre ranting about

last gen cows said that graphics didnt really matter, but now this gen it sure matter alot.

that is a prime example of hypocrisy. i dont know how you see otherwise? do you even know what it means?

And sheep are saying gameplay matters more, but PS3 also has gameplay, so that argument is useless. But the PS2/PS3 graphics one is right so my bad on that.

shadyd1717

i was just pointing out an example of fanboy hypocrisy, i have no idea what else youre ranting about

last gen cows said that graphics didnt really matter, but now this gen it sure matter alot.

that is a prime example of hypocrisy. i dont know how you see otherwise? do you even know what it means?

And sheep are saying gameplay matters more, but PS3 also has gameplay, so that argument is useless. But the PS2/PS3 graphics one is right so my bad on that.

i agree, i wasnt arguing that point, i was just pointing out a different hypocrisy just to prove that everybody is a hypocrite.

and the irony of 1 hypocrite calling another person a hypocrite always kills me :P

[QUOTE="NFS102"][QUOTE="darkslider99"][QUOTE="enygma500"]

but in my experience with metriod prime 3 the wii is not made for fps.

air_wolf_cubed

If the Wii was made for FPS, we'd see more than 2 good ones out by now. The Wii isn't made for FPS IMO.

MoH is glitchy and extremely unrealistic with a boring single player, and its still the most fun i've ever had (multiplayer-wise) in an FPS in a long time, for sniping at least.

Wii has potential in this genre, expect a headset and a harddrive by the end of '09

Mouse>>Wiimote>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>analog IN TERMS OF FPS MOVEMENT, not comfort, being used to it etc, in terms of precision and all the other technical stuff.

Can someone link me to a video of this game? I'd like to see what it looks like -- too busy on something to look. ;pinertk

Sheep during the...

N64 era: "HAHA WE HAVE THE BEST GRAPHICS!"

GC era: "Graphics are important, but gameplay is more important."

Wii era: "LOL IT COULD LOOK LIKE E.T. ON ATARI 2600 AS LONG AS IT PLAYS WELL WITH THE WIIMOTE!"

If you ask me, Sheep are the most well-behaved and least hypocritical faction in System Wars. TC, you're probably just generalizing.Floppy_Jim

Good thing no one is asking you.....

but well behaved???? least hypocritical......?????????????????? come on!!!!

For them sales>games

Sheep during the...

N64 era: "HAHA WE HAVE THE BEST GRAPHICS!"

GC era: "Graphics are important, but gameplay is more important."

Wii era: "LOL IT COULD LOOK LIKE E.T. ON ATARI 2600 AS LONG AS IT PLAYS WELL WITH THE WIIMOTE!"

Sooshy

do cows and "graphics dont matter" from ps2 days ring a bell?

Oooh, nevermind just saw it.

Graphically, um. It's okay for the Wii I suppose - animates nicely if nothing else. Gameplay looks pretty solid at the moment too, should be hyped because of that not because it looks acceptable as a Wii game.

Nowhere near PS3/360 quality.

[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]If you ask me, Sheep are the most well-behaved and least hypocritical faction in System Wars. TC, you're probably just generalizing.big_boss4life

Good thing no one is asking you.....

but well behaved???? least hypocritical......?????????????????? come on!!!!

For them sales>games

im pretty sure the sheep are reveling in the sales domination of the Wii since the N64 and GC both tanked.