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#101 _Impmacaque_
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Ugh. I seriously can't be the only person who is absolutely sick of seeing hyper-generic military style shooters like this garbage. I saw the very first pic in OP and already felt extreme, bitter indifference.

Devs need to stop making this **** and focus on original, new gameplay experiences. We already have CoD, battlefield, medal of honor, the list goes on.. I could care less about a "next-gen" experience if the game iss going to look and feel like 90% of the **** that's already on the market.

spookykid143

I take it you know nothing about ARMA.

I don't need to, nor do I care to know anything about it. The aesthetic of the game is enough to put me off of it entirely. I don't want to play in that setting, I want nothing to do with generic marines, the same goddamn weapons, tanks, beaches, sand, brown and bloom. I've seen it a hundred times over, and quite frankly, I'm sick of it.

I could care less about the minuteae of the gameplay and the technical aspects. The game LOOKS like everything else, ever. That's enough for me.

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#102 spookykid143
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[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

[QUOTE="_Impmacaque_"]

Ugh. I seriously can't be the only person who is absolutely sick of seeing hyper-generic military style shooters like this garbage. I saw the very first pic in OP and already felt extreme, bitter indifference.

Devs need to stop making this **** and focus on original, new gameplay experiences. We already have CoD, battlefield, medal of honor, the list goes on.. I could care less about a "next-gen" experience if the game iss going to look and feel like 90% of the **** that's already on the market.

_Impmacaque_

I take it you know nothing about ARMA.

I don't need to, nor do I care to know anything about it. The aesthetic of the game is enough to put me off of it entirely. I don't want to play in that setting, I want nothing to do with generic marines, the same goddamn weapons, tanks, beaches, sand, brown and bloom. I've seen it a hundred times over, and quite frankly, I'm sick of it.

I could care less about the minuteae of the gameplay and the technical aspects. The game LOOKS like everything else, ever. That's enough for me.

Thanks for the laugh, but you should there is nothing quite like ARMA on the market.

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#103 cobrax55
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[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

[QUOTE="_Impmacaque_"]

Ugh. I seriously can't be the only person who is absolutely sick of seeing hyper-generic military style shooters like this garbage. I saw the very first pic in OP and already felt extreme, bitter indifference.

Devs need to stop making this **** and focus on original, new gameplay experiences. We already have CoD, battlefield, medal of honor, the list goes on.. I could care less about a "next-gen" experience if the game iss going to look and feel like 90% of the **** that's already on the market.

_Impmacaque_

I take it you know nothing about ARMA.

I don't need to, nor do I care to know anything about it. The aesthetic of the game is enough to put me off of it entirely. I don't want to play in that setting, I want nothing to do with generic marines, the same goddamn weapons, tanks, beaches, sand, brown and bloom. I've seen it a hundred times over, and quite frankly, I'm sick of it.

I could care less about the minuteae of the gameplay and the technical aspects. The game LOOKS like everything else, ever. That's enough for me.

Yes, beacuse there are plenty of other hyperrealistic, open world, sandbox, squad based, war sims out there with a focus on user generated and coop play that can and will do warfare on a massive scale with 100's of units fighting at the same time.

BTW, this series has existed since before CoD, Battlefield, medal of honor and so on. and is pretty much the only game of its kind.

Saying that dont even want to know what the game is about because of a screenshot (which will never give you any sort of idea of what a game like this is about) just makes you sound like a moron.

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#104 hypoty
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[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

[QUOTE="_Impmacaque_"]

Ugh. I seriously can't be the only person who is absolutely sick of seeing hyper-generic military style shooters like this garbage. I saw the very first pic in OP and already felt extreme, bitter indifference.

Devs need to stop making this **** and focus on original, new gameplay experiences. We already have CoD, battlefield, medal of honor, the list goes on.. I could care less about a "next-gen" experience if the game iss going to look and feel like 90% of the **** that's already on the market.

_Impmacaque_

I take it you know nothing about ARMA.

I don't need to, nor do I care to know anything about it. The aesthetic of the game is enough to put me off of it entirely. I don't want to play in that setting, I want nothing to do with generic marines, the same goddamn weapons, tanks, beaches, sand, brown and bloom. I've seen it a hundred times over, and quite frankly, I'm sick of it.

I could care less about the minuteae of the gameplay and the technical aspects. The game LOOKS like everything else, ever. That's enough for me.

That's a bit shallow, isn't it? The ArmA series offers something I can't get in any other game, the closest being VBS2 which costs $900 and is designed for actual soldiers. I know it's hard to believe, but the difference between this and say the BF series is essentially the difference between the MK series and GT5.

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#105 lazerface216
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YAY! another military shooter! we need more of those!

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#106 cobrax55
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YAY! another military shooter! we need more of those!

lazerface216

there is absoutly nothing out there thats even remotly similar to this series.

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#107 xOMGITSJASONx
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Ok. Now i want to buy Arma 2 off steam. I played the Arma 2 demo and it does have a realistic artstyle. Arma 3 has my interest piqued.

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#108 _Impmacaque_
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[QUOTE="_Impmacaque_"]

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]I take it you know nothing about ARMA.

cobrax55

I don't need to, nor do I care to know anything about it. The aesthetic of the game is enough to put me off of it entirely. I don't want to play in that setting, I want nothing to do with generic marines, the same goddamn weapons, tanks, beaches, sand, brown and bloom. I've seen it a hundred times over, and quite frankly, I'm sick of it.

I could care less about the minuteae of the gameplay and the technical aspects. The game LOOKS like everything else, ever. That's enough for me.

Yes, beacuse there are plenty of other hyperrealistic, open world, sandbox, squad based, war sims out there with a focus on user generated and coop play that can and will do warfare on a massive scale with 100's of units fighting at the same time.

BTW, this series has existed since before CoD, Battlefield, medal of honor and so on. and is pretty much the only game of its kind.

Saying that dont even want to know what the game is about because of a screenshot (which will never give you any sort of idea of what a game like this is about) just makes you sound like a moron.

I think you're missing the point. The market for "realistic military shooters" is saturated to the point of nausea. I could care less what kind of game it is - as someone who is not obssessed with shooters to begin with, a game like this has far too similar a look, sound, and feel to many other titles for me to care or look at it twice. There are many gamers like me who highly prefer experiences that don't involve the words "marines" or "tactical shooter". I've heard it all before. The game looks and sounds boring to me (I mean this literally, the game has the same visual design direction as tons of games on the market already, and the sound is indiscernible gun-fire/random explosions ala CoD, BF, etc etc).

Calling me a "moron" because I don't share your tastes is laughable and pathetic. Perhaps you should better try to read my words and understand what exactly my issue is with these kinds of titles before you post a retort.

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#109 spookykid143
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YAY! another military shooter! we need more of those!

lazerface216

Please name 5 games that are like ARMA

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#110 cobrax55
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[QUOTE="cobrax55"]

[QUOTE="_Impmacaque_"]

I don't need to, nor do I care to know anything about it. The aesthetic of the game is enough to put me off of it entirely. I don't want to play in that setting, I want nothing to do with generic marines, the same goddamn weapons, tanks, beaches, sand, brown and bloom. I've seen it a hundred times over, and quite frankly, I'm sick of it.

I could care less about the minuteae of the gameplay and the technical aspects. The game LOOKS like everything else, ever. That's enough for me.

_Impmacaque_

Yes, beacuse there are plenty of other hyperrealistic, open world, sandbox, squad based, war sims out there with a focus on user generated and coop play that can and will do warfare on a massive scale with 100's of units fighting at the same time.

BTW, this series has existed since before CoD, Battlefield, medal of honor and so on. and is pretty much the only game of its kind.

Saying that dont even want to know what the game is about because of a screenshot (which will never give you any sort of idea of what a game like this is about) just makes you sound like a moron.

I think you're missing the point. The market for "realistic military shooters" is saturated to the point of nausea. I could care less what kind of game it is - as someone who is not obssessed with shooters to begin with, a game like this has far too similar a look, sound, and feel to many other titles for me to care or look at it twice. There are many gamers like me who highly prefer experiences that don't involve the words "marines" or "tactical shooter". I've heard it all before. The game looks and sounds boring to me (I mean this literally, the game has the same aesthetic as tons of games on the markets, and the sound is indistinguishable gun-fire ala CoD, BF, etc etc).

Calling me a "moron" because I don't share your tastes is laughable and pathetic. Perhaps you should better try to read my words and understand what exactly my issue is with these kinds of titles before you post a retort.

it has nothing to do with your tastes, it has to do with you thinking you know something about the game based on a screenshot. There are no realistic military shooters on the market except for this, its pretty much the truth. It does not have a similar feel to any game out there, im not exacly sure how you could figure that out from a screenshot, but it doesnt play like anything out there on the market.

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#111 lazerface216
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YAY! another military shooter! we need more of those!

cobrax55

there is absoutly nothing out there thats even remotly similar to this series.

i know, it's a super realistic tactical shooter....still bored of the whole modern military setting.

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looks pretty good but i smell bull shots.

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#113 _Impmacaque_
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[QUOTE="_Impmacaque_"]

[QUOTE="cobrax55"]

Yes, beacuse there are plenty of other hyperrealistic, open world, sandbox, squad based, war sims out there with a focus on user generated and coop play that can and will do warfare on a massive scale with 100's of units fighting at the same time.

BTW, this series has existed since before CoD, Battlefield, medal of honor and so on. and is pretty much the only game of its kind.

Saying that dont even want to know what the game is about because of a screenshot (which will never give you any sort of idea of what a game like this is about) just makes you sound like a moron.

cobrax55

I think you're missing the point. The market for "realistic military shooters" is saturated to the point of nausea. I could care less what kind of game it is - as someone who is not obssessed with shooters to begin with, a game like this has far too similar a look, sound, and feel to many other titles for me to care or look at it twice. There are many gamers like me who highly prefer experiences that don't involve the words "marines" or "tactical shooter". I've heard it all before. The game looks and sounds boring to me (I mean this literally, the game has the same aesthetic as tons of games on the markets, and the sound is indistinguishable gun-fire ala CoD, BF, etc etc).

Calling me a "moron" because I don't share your tastes is laughable and pathetic. Perhaps you should better try to read my words and understand what exactly my issue is with these kinds of titles before you post a retort.

it has nothing to do with your tastes, it has to do with you thinking you know something about the game based on a screenshot. There are no realistic military shooters on the market except for this, its pretty much the truth. It does not have a similar feel to any game out there, im not exacly sure how you could figure that out from a screenshot, but it doesnt play like anything out there on the market.

What part of the following do you not understand: My issue with the game is based on the overall aesthetic and setting, which I already know to be your typical military shooter garbage.Do you understand the word "aesthetic" as I am using it? It LOOKS and SOUNDS exactly like every other military shooter out there. It has the same marines, the same guns, the same stunningly boring fields of grass and "war-torn" landscapes, the same helicoptors, the same gunshot sounds, the same stupid missions and typical military shooter garbage I'm absolutely sick of.

I do not care about the gameplay of this title, nor am I commenting on the gameplay/comparing the gameplay to other games. A screenshot is more than enough for me to know the artistic direction and setting of the game, and as I suspected, it's the same as everything else.

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#114 cobrax55
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[QUOTE="cobrax55"]

[QUOTE="_Impmacaque_"]

I think you're missing the point. The market for "realistic military shooters" is saturated to the point of nausea. I could care less what kind of game it is - as someone who is not obssessed with shooters to begin with, a game like this has far too similar a look, sound, and feel to many other titles for me to care or look at it twice. There are many gamers like me who highly prefer experiences that don't involve the words "marines" or "tactical shooter". I've heard it all before. The game looks and sounds boring to me (I mean this literally, the game has the same aesthetic as tons of games on the markets, and the sound is indistinguishable gun-fire ala CoD, BF, etc etc).

Calling me a "moron" because I don't share your tastes is laughable and pathetic. Perhaps you should better try to read my words and understand what exactly my issue is with these kinds of titles before you post a retort.

_Impmacaque_

it has nothing to do with your tastes, it has to do with you thinking you know something about the game based on a screenshot. There are no realistic military shooters on the market except for this, its pretty much the truth. It does not have a similar feel to any game out there, im not exacly sure how you could figure that out from a screenshot, but it doesnt play like anything out there on the market.

What part of the following do you not understand: My issue with the game is based on the overall aesthetic and setting, which I already know to be your typical military shooter garbage.Do you understand the word "aesthetic" as I am using it? It LOOKS and SOUNDS exactly like every other military shooter out there. It has the same marines, the same guns, the same stunningly boring fields of grass and "war-torn" landscapes, the same helicoptors, the same gunshot sounds, the same stupid missions and typical military shooter garbage I'm absolutely sick of.

I do not care about the gameplay of this title, nor am I commenting on the gameplay/comparing the gameplay to other games. A screenshot is more than enough for me to know the artistic direction and setting of the game, and as I suspected, it's the same as everything else.

luckily some of us still value games for their gamepay.

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#115 spookykid143
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[QUOTE="cobrax55"]

[QUOTE="_Impmacaque_"]

I think you're missing the point. The market for "realistic military shooters" is saturated to the point of nausea. I could care less what kind of game it is - as someone who is not obssessed with shooters to begin with, a game like this has far too similar a look, sound, and feel to many other titles for me to care or look at it twice. There are many gamers like me who highly prefer experiences that don't involve the words "marines" or "tactical shooter". I've heard it all before. The game looks and sounds boring to me (I mean this literally, the game has the same aesthetic as tons of games on the markets, and the sound is indistinguishable gun-fire ala CoD, BF, etc etc).

Calling me a "moron" because I don't share your tastes is laughable and pathetic. Perhaps you should better try to read my words and understand what exactly my issue is with these kinds of titles before you post a retort.

_Impmacaque_

it has nothing to do with your tastes, it has to do with you thinking you know something about the game based on a screenshot. There are no realistic military shooters on the market except for this, its pretty much the truth. It does not have a similar feel to any game out there, im not exacly sure how you could figure that out from a screenshot, but it doesnt play like anything out there on the market.

What part of the following do you not understand: My issue with the game is based on the overall aesthetic and setting, which I already know to be your typical military shooter garbage.Do you understand the word "aesthetic" as I am using it? It LOOKS and SOUNDS exactly like every other military shooter out there. It has the same marines, the same guns, the same stunningly boring fields of grass and "war-torn" landscapes, the same helicoptors, the same gunshot sounds, the same stupid missions and typical military shooter garbage I'm absolutely sick of.

I do not care about the gameplay of this title, nor am I commenting on the gameplay/comparing the gameplay to other games. A screenshot is more than enough for me to know the artistic direction and setting of the game, and as I suspected, it's the same as everything else.

It's a military sim what do you expect it to look like?

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#117 lowe0
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BTW, this series has existed since before CoD, Battlefield, medal of honor and so on.

cobrax55
Nope. Even being generous and counting OFP as the beginning of the series, Medal of Honor still predates it (November 1999 vs. June 2001).
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#118 cobrax55
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[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

[QUOTE="_Impmacaque_"]

What part of the following do you not understand: My issue with the game is based on the overall aesthetic and setting, which I already know to be your typical military shooter garbage.Do you understand the word "aesthetic" as I am using it? It LOOKS and SOUNDS exactly like every other military shooter out there. It has the same marines, the same guns, the same stunningly boring fields of grass and "war-torn" landscapes, the same helicoptors, the same gunshot sounds, the same stupid missions and typical military shooter garbage I'm absolutely sick of.

I do not care about the gameplay of this title, nor am I commenting on the gameplay/comparing the gameplay to other games. A screenshot is more than enough for me to know the artistic direction and setting of the game, and as I suspected, it's the same as everything else.

_Impmacaque_

It's a military sim what do you expect it to look like?

That's exactly the point - the genre is played out to death and I have absolutely no desire to see more identically set and designed military sims. That said, I'm out of this thread. Too many fanboys who can't read before they post.

really? and where are these other military sims you speak of?

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#119 Archang3l_666
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[QUOTE="_Impmacaque_"]

[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

It's a military sim what do you expect it to look like?

cobrax55

That's exactly the point - the genre is played out to death and I have absolutely no desire to see more identically set and designed military sims. That said, I'm out of this thread. Too many fanboys who can't read before they post.

really? and where are these other military sims you speak of?

Just leave it at ignorance is bliss

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#120 SajuukSW
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[QUOTE="cobrax55"]

[QUOTE="_Impmacaque_"]

I don't need to, nor do I care to know anything about it. The aesthetic of the game is enough to put me off of it entirely. I don't want to play in that setting, I want nothing to do with generic marines, the same goddamn weapons, tanks, beaches, sand, brown and bloom. I've seen it a hundred times over, and quite frankly, I'm sick of it.

I could care less about the minuteae of the gameplay and the technical aspects. The game LOOKS like everything else, ever. That's enough for me.

_Impmacaque_

Yes, beacuse there are plenty of other hyperrealistic, open world, sandbox, squad based, war sims out there with a focus on user generated and coop play that can and will do warfare on a massive scale with 100's of units fighting at the same time.

BTW, this series has existed since before CoD, Battlefield, medal of honor and so on. and is pretty much the only game of its kind.

Saying that dont even want to know what the game is about because of a screenshot (which will never give you any sort of idea of what a game like this is about) just makes you sound like a moron.

I think you're missing the point. The market for "realistic military shooters" is saturated to the point of nausea. I could care less what kind of game it is - as someone who is not obssessed with shooters to begin with, a game like this has far too similar a look, sound, and feel to many other titles for me to care or look at it twice. There are many gamers like me who highly prefer experiences that don't involve the words "marines" or "tactical shooter". I've heard it all before. The game looks and sounds boring to me (I mean this literally, the game has the same visual design direction as tons of games on the market already, and the sound is indiscernible gun-fire/random explosions ala CoD, BF, etc etc).

Calling me a "moron" because I don't share your tastes is laughable and pathetic. Perhaps you should better try to read my words and understand what exactly my issue is with these kinds of titles before you post a retort.

Your mistake is assuming CoD and BF are "realistic military shooters"
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I don't need to, nor do I care to know anything about it. The aesthetic of the game is enough to put me off of it entirely. I don't want to play in that setting, I want nothing to do with generic marines, the same goddamn weapons, tanks, beaches, sand, brown and bloom. I've seen it a hundred times over, and quite frankly, I'm sick of it.

I could care less about the minuteae of the gameplay and the technical aspects. The game LOOKS like everything else, ever. That's enough for me.

_Impmacaque_



Dude I can't stand ArmA, but if there's one thing I will say about the game it's that it is absolutely nothing like COD or the dozens of games trying to copy it. From what you're saying it sounds like you would give it a chance if it was filled with rainbows and talking frogs. :?

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#122 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Well there goes hopes of optimization.

Inconsistancy

That's the first thing I thought of.

Damnit.

Bad news :(, I think devs should boycott that crap, no reason to use something that not everyone can utilize, and ruins it for the other brand.

I'm pretty sure every game it's implemented in is a result of nvidia paying developers in both money and resources to use it.

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all i hope is that the ontrols are good
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I think you're missing the point. The market for "realistic military shooters" is saturated to the point of nausea. I could care less what kind of game it is - as someone who is not obssessed with shooters to begin with, a game like this has far too similar a look, sound, and feel to many other titles for me to care or look at it twice. There are many gamers like me who highly prefer experiences that don't involve the words "marines" or "tactical shooter". I've heard it all before. The game looks and sounds boring to me (I mean this literally, the game has the same visual design direction as tons of games on the market already, and the sound is indiscernible gun-fire/random explosions ala CoD, BF, etc etc).

Calling me a "moron" because I don't share your tastes is laughable and pathetic. Perhaps you should better try to read my words and understand what exactly my issue is with these kinds of titles before you post a retort._Impmacaque_

How do you know how this game feels and sounds without even having played it? Oh that's right, you don't. Seriously dude, judging a game on its presentation is what is truly laughable and pathetic, and the twisted logic you're resorting you to cover up the fact that you totally midjudged this game based on a few screenshots doesn't really do you any good in this respect.

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#125 Gauloisess
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[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

[QUOTE="_Impmacaque_"]

Ugh. I seriously can't be the only person who is absolutely sick of seeing hyper-generic military style shooters like this garbage. I saw the very first pic in OP and already felt extreme, bitter indifference.

Devs need to stop making this **** and focus on original, new gameplay experiences. We already have CoD, battlefield, medal of honor, the list goes on.. I could care less about a "next-gen" experience if the game iss going to look and feel like 90% of the **** that's already on the market.

_Impmacaque_

I take it you know nothing about ARMA.

I don't need to, nor do I care to know anything about it. The aesthetic of the game is enough to put me off of it entirely. I don't want to play in that setting, I want nothing to do with generic marines, the same goddamn weapons, tanks, beaches, sand, brown and bloom. I've seen it a hundred times over, and quite frankly, I'm sick of it.

I could care less about the minuteae of the gameplay and the technical aspects. The game LOOKS like everything else, ever. That's enough for me.

You gave DA2 srsly a 9.5? A game with the most repetitive boring generic bland looking environments ever made?

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#126 AAllxxjjnn
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Some of the posts in here are really just ugh. Arma 3, please give us a demo as awesome as Arma II's.
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#127 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

[QUOTE="_Impmacaque_"]

Ugh. I seriously can't be the only person who is absolutely sick of seeing hyper-generic military style shooters like this garbage. I saw the very first pic in OP and already felt extreme, bitter indifference.

Devs need to stop making this **** and focus on original, new gameplay experiences. We already have CoD, battlefield, medal of honor, the list goes on.. I could care less about a "next-gen" experience if the game iss going to look and feel like 90% of the **** that's already on the market.

_Impmacaque_

I take it you know nothing about ARMA.

I don't need to, nor do I care to know anything about it. The aesthetic of the game is enough to put me off of it entirely. I don't want to play in that setting, I want nothing to do with generic marines, the same goddamn weapons, tanks, beaches, sand, brown and bloom. I've seen it a hundred times over, and quite frankly, I'm sick of it.

I could care less about the minuteae of the gameplay and the technical aspects. The game LOOKS like everything else, ever. That's enough for me.

You can't talk **** about a game you never played. So arguement is invalid.

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#128 AdrianWerner
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Whatever makes you feel better. Fact is people will be deciding between ArmA 3 and BF3 as what to buy. Spin it however you want.

Puckhog04

Considering their launches will be at least 6 months apart? Most hardcore pcgamers will be getting both.

And if they would have to decide on only one the choice would be obvious: those who prefer realism would pick Arma3, the ones who prefer arcade would pick BF3. Games like ARMA are for people who aren't satisfied with the casual nature of Battlefield. Especially since DICE killed mods for BF3, so many people who bought BF2 might avoid BF3 because there will never be Project Reality mod for it.

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#129 Crimsader
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It will just beg for a new GPU, that's for damn sure.
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#130 Jackopeng
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Alot of P.C's will be exploding :P
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#131 skrat_01
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I could care less what kind of game it is - as someone who is not obssessed with shooters to begin with, a game like this has far too similar a look, sound, and feel to many other titles for me to care or look at it twice.

_Impmacaque_
So every JRPG with stylised characters is exactly the same game? I'm glad to know that, makes things so easy to digest. Now please don't use your own ignorance as a point of argument, which has absolutely no basis whatsoever, furthermore considering the tactical shooter genre is for most of the part dead, and the game itself doesn't even fall under that category alone. You're contributing nothing, just hopping on a soapbox bathing in your own lack of knowledge shrouded in assumptions.
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#132 Gauloisess
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Evry JRPG is actually always the same lol

-A group of 6-8 characters go on a journey
-Bad guy is an unstoppable god like being
-Save the world
-Meet new friends along the way
-Villain wants to destroy, take over the world
-Unbelievably bad dialogue
-Generally young or young looking characters
-Main characters are overly nice and naive

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#133 nameless12345
Member since 2010 • 15125 Posts

Evry JRPG is actually always the same lol

-A group of 6-8 characters go on a journey
-Bad guy is an unstoppable god like being
-Save the world
-Meet new friends along the way
-Villain wants to destroy, take over the world
-Unbelievably bad dialogue
-Generally young or young looking characters
-Main characters are overly nice and naive

Gauloisess

Even so one could say many criticism about your typical WRPG too. And you're slightly off-topic.

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#134 Wasdie  Moderator
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What you guys need to realize is that there is a really dedicated fanbase for the ArmA series. We go out of our way to buy the game. Even if a game we really want comes out around the same time, ArmA either takes priority or we delay the purchase for a month or so to gather funds.

BI doesn't count on high day-one sales. That's why they keep giving continued support and hope that word-of-mouth gets around to all of the improvements they make and more people purchase the game.

They are operating at a very low cost for a game developer. They are sticking with the same engine and using PhysX (which is free to use) so they aren't incurring many extra costs. If you played their games you'll realize that the graphic are the only real high-budget thing, and even they are quite lacking (tons of glitches, horrible optimization). The audio is generally terrible (except for the 3D positioning, that's excellent), their is minimal plot, and usually their games are quite buggy on release.

However they usually patch the game up really well and modders use their tools to fix the production values (sound mods, performance mods, all of that jazz).

ArmA is a game that keeps giving. Every day more missions, maps, and mods are being created giving the game nearly endless amounts of content. If you buy ArmA, you'll easily get your money's worth of content and then some. For such a small community, the amount of mods and other user generated content is staggering.

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#135 Another-World
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AHHH! F*** I am gonna have to go SLI now I guess.

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#136 Baranga
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I'm pretty sure every game it's implemented in is a result of nvidia paying developers in both money and resources to use it.

topgunmv

There's a difference between hardware PhysX and PhysX as a general purpose physics engine. Hundreds of games, including console titles (like almost all Unreal 3 games and Heavy Rain) use it.

I welcome the option of hardware physics simulation.

Instead of complaining about Nvidia pushing graphics, complain about ATI killing Havok FX.

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#137 lawlessx
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There is no other game like ArmA out there..period.
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#138 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

I'm pretty sure every game it's implemented in is a result of nvidia paying developers in both money and resources to use it.

Baranga

There's a difference between hardware PhysX and PhysX as a general purpose physics engine. Hundreds of games, including console titles (like almost all Unreal 3 games and Heavy Rain) use it.

I welcome the option of hardware physics simulation.

Instead of complaining about Nvidia pushing graphics, complain about ATI killing Havok FX.

What does ati have to do with it? Intel bought Havok.

Nvidia should learn the lessons of the past; trying to force propriety tech down consumer's throats doesn't fly. Look what happened to 3dfx and their glide drivers.

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#139 psn8214
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PhysX implies rag-dolls. So it's not a bad thing. Just saying.

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#140 DarthJohnova
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To be fair, if this went multi-platform, you Hermits would go find some other exclusive to hold onto and treasure, even if it's getting average reviews. Look at 'TEH CRYSIS!!1!!!', It was the best thing going but as soon as it hits consoles...ohhh noooo, TEH CONSOLIZATION!!!!!

Seriously, I'm not doubting it's a decent game, I'm just saying what many others want to say.

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#141 Teuf_
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There's a difference between hardware PhysX and PhysX as a general purpose physics engine. Hundreds of games, including console titles (like almost all Unreal 3 games and Heavy Rain) use it.

I welcome the option of hardware physics simulation.

Instead of complaining about Nvidia pushing graphics, complain about ATI killing Havok FX.

Baranga



The problem is that PhysX's CPU implementation is categorically worse than Havok's. So that option of running some extra eye candy physics on the GPU costs you overall performance.

I don't know where you get the idea that ATI killed Havok FX...Havok FX dies because the GPU isn't a great solution for physics in the general case. There's too much latency involved, making it useless for any physics that affects gameplay (which is why PhysX generally only runs non-interactive things like particle systems on the GPU)

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#142 skrat_01
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To be fair, if this went multi-platform, you Hermits would go find some other exclusive to hold onto and treasure, even if it's getting average reviews. Look at 'TEH CRYSIS!!1!!!', It was the best thing going but as soon as it hits consoles...ohhh noooo, TEH CONSOLIZATION!!!!!

Seriously, I'm not doubting it's a decent game, I'm just saying what many others want to say.

DarthJohnova
and in response I'm sure the hermits would point out the GS AAAE, AAE tally. Boourns to those who play for scores.
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#143 DraugenCP
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To be fair, if this went multi-platform, you Hermits would go find some other exclusive to hold onto and treasure, even if it's getting average reviews. Look at 'TEH CRYSIS!!1!!!', It was the best thing going but as soon as it hits consoles...ohhh noooo, TEH CONSOLIZATION!!!!!

Seriously, I'm not doubting it's a decent game, I'm just saying what many others want to say.

DarthJohnova

So Arma is popular based on the sole fact that it's a PC exclusive instead of it being one of the most unique, versatile and most challenging games out there?

Whatever makes you sleep at night.

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#144 thesmiter
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[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

ARMA is a military simulator

Battlefield is an team-based FPS with very large maps.

Believe it or not, there is quite a difference. ARMA has its own hardcore, dedicated, and modding community. They are not the same type of game. Why you even thought they were competing is beyond me.

Firebird-5

Whatever makes you feel better. Fact is people will be deciding between ArmA 3 and BF3 as what to buy. Spin it however you want.

consolites always say their baseless lies are fact. just saying it is doesn't make it so

You said 'consolites'. The proper terminology would be 'people'. Also, 'always' should be replaced with 'often' or 'sometimes'.

Declaring that only one specific group participates in a certain form of behavior for the purpose of enhancing your own argument and attempting to impeach your opponent's argument is rather fallacious. It seems that you just made a baseless lie and passed it off as a factual statement. I may be mistaken, but is this irony?

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#146 Makari
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"] [QUOTE="_Impmacaque_"] I don't need to, nor do I care to know anything about it. The aesthetic of the game is enough to put me off of it entirely. I don't want to play in that setting, I want nothing to do with generic marines, the same goddamn weapons, tanks, beaches, sand, brown and bloom. I've seen it a hundred times over, and quite frankly, I'm sick of it. I could care less about the minuteae of the gameplay and the technical aspects. The game LOOKS like everything else, ever. That's enough for me.

Dude I can't stand ArmA, but if there's one thing I will say about the game it's that it is absolutely nothing like COD or the dozens of games trying to copy it. From what you're saying it sounds like you would give it a chance if it was filled with rainbows and talking frogs. :?

I am glad everybody else already jumped down _Impmacaque_'s throat for me, because the direction that opinion was coming from is just straight-up painful to read. :( I can somewhat better understand the state of video game marketing today when I see things like that being said, though.
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#147 Vari3ty
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even the screenshots bore me

Harisemo

Do screenshots normally excite you?

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#148 mojosodopee
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even the screenshots bore me

Harisemo

For real lol