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first of all, i have both an xbox 360 and ps3.. its not surprising that i prefer my xbox 360 more though. I love the games better, forza 3> GT5 (i have both) gears > killzone, and ext ext.

 

HOWEVER, i had great hopes for the xbox one, but its weaker than the ps4 ( can someone tell me how much weaker?) i DONT care for kinect, and it seems like MS is focusing too much on stuff other than CORE GAMING.

 

Well the only way id get a PS4 rather than an Xbox one is... if MS charged for playing online, and Sony didnt. I just dont want my achievement points to go to waste, and i LOVE xbox excllusives. So yeah, thats my main condition.. if they BOTH charge for online, ill most likely get an XBOX One :)

 

What do you other xbox fans feel?

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#2 Badosh
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As an 360 fan. PS4 won.
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#3 Pitbulllova
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As an 360 fan. PS4 won. Badosh
come on man, you cant say that yet, in terms of specs... slightly yes. but we shall see. it all depends on online pricing IMO for most of the people whom are in the middle of deciding
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PS4 has won, better hardware and better games.
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#5 Badosh
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[QUOTE="Badosh"]As an 360 fan. PS4 won. Pitbulllova
come on man, you cant say that yet, in terms of specs... slightly yes. but we shall see. it all depends on online pricing IMO for most of the people whom are in the middle of deciding

Online pricing? It's still Free vs. Paid model.
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PS4 has won, better hardware and better games.FPSfan1985
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[QUOTE="Badosh"]As an 360 fan. PS4 won. Pitbulllova
come on man, you cant say that yet, in terms of specs... slightly yes. but we shall see. it all depends on online pricing IMO for most of the people whom are in the middle of deciding

So, you don't have a problem always having to check-in every 24 hours with Microsoft in order to play your single player games? I hope you never lose your internet connection for a good 2 days, because Microsoft will penalize you for not checking in with them. Microsoft is like an overprotective Mother.
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PS4 has won, better hardware and better games.FPSfan1985
hardware? slightly. games? no. gears> KZ halo> resisitance forza>GT ill miss those games if i get a ps4 :( MANNNNNNNNNNNN LIFE IS HARD
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[QUOTE="Pitbulllova"][QUOTE="Badosh"]As an 360 fan. PS4 won. emgesp
come on man, you cant say that yet, in terms of specs... slightly yes. but we shall see. it all depends on online pricing IMO for most of the people whom are in the middle of deciding

So, you don't have a problem always having to check-in every 24 hours with Microsoft in order to play your single player games? I hope you never lose your internet connection for a good 2 days, because Microsoft will penalize you for not checking in with them. Microsoft is like an overprotective Mother.

I thought it was confirmed that you dont need to be connnected online to play the xbox one?!
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]PS4 has won, better hardware and better games.Pitbulllova
hardware? slightly. games? no. gears> KZ halo> resisitance forza>GT ill miss those games if i get a ps4 :( MANNNNNNNNNNNN LIFE IS HARD

I was thinking multiplats, multiplats will be much better on PS4.
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[QUOTE="Pitbulllova"][QUOTE="emgesp"][QUOTE="Pitbulllova"] come on man, you cant say that yet, in terms of specs... slightly yes. but we shall see. it all depends on online pricing IMO for most of the people whom are in the middle of deciding

So, you don't have a problem always having to check-in every 24 hours with Microsoft in order to play your single player games? I hope you never lose your internet connection for a good 2 days, because Microsoft will penalize you for not checking in with them. Microsoft is like an overprotective Mother.

I thought it was confirmed that you dont need to be connnected online to play the xbox one?!

You have to connect once everyday.
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#12 Badosh
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I thought it was confirmed that you dont need to be connnected online to play the xbox one?!Pitbulllova
You do, not just "always."
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I'm still waiting for E3 but I already know I'll get both but not sure which one first. And if I can't get Gold free like I'm doing now then that sway me to play on the PS4 over the XO.
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[QUOTE="Pitbulllova"][QUOTE="Badosh"]As an 360 fan. PS4 won. Badosh
come on man, you cant say that yet, in terms of specs... slightly yes. but we shall see. it all depends on online pricing IMO for most of the people whom are in the middle of deciding

Online pricing? It's still Free vs. Paid model.

Just because it was doesn't mean it's going to stay that way.
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I had a 360. I was unhappy with M$'s online subscription model and refusal to make worthwhile exclusive games. I had already decided I liekly wasn;t going to get a next box, but after seeing the anti consumer practices coming with the X1 I'm definately not.

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[QUOTE="Pitbulllova"][QUOTE="emgesp"][QUOTE="Pitbulllova"] come on man, you cant say that yet, in terms of specs... slightly yes. but we shall see. it all depends on online pricing IMO for most of the people whom are in the middle of deciding

So, you don't have a problem always having to check-in every 24 hours with Microsoft in order to play your single player games? I hope you never lose your internet connection for a good 2 days, because Microsoft will penalize you for not checking in with them. Microsoft is like an overprotective Mother.

I thought it was confirmed that you dont need to be connnected online to play the xbox one?!

You must check-in with Mommy (Microsoft) every 24 hours, or else.
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#17 Badosh
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[QUOTE="Basinboy"] Just because it was doesn't mean it's going to stay that way.

Sony has said online is free. MS has said XBL will be a premium paid service.
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]PS4 has won, better hardware and better games.Pitbulllova
hardware? slightly. games? no. gears> KZ halo> resisitance forza>GT ill miss those games if i get a ps4 :( MANNNNNNNNNNNN LIFE IS HARD

almost all 6 of those games suck... leaving PS exclusives.

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#19 Pitbulllova
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You must check-in with Mommy (Microsoft) every 24 hours, or else.

wow what the hell... what happens if i dont check in with MS and turn my 720 on?
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#20 Pitbulllova
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[QUOTE="emgesp"][QUOTE="Pitbulllova"][QUOTE="emgesp"] So, you don't have a problem always having to check-in every 24 hours with Microsoft in order to play your single player games? I hope you never lose your internet connection for a good 2 days, because Microsoft will penalize you for not checking in with them. Microsoft is like an overprotective Mother.

I thought it was confirmed that you dont need to be connnected online to play the xbox one?!

You must check-in with Mommy (Microsoft) every 24 hours, or else.

wow really? what happens if i dont check in? seriously.
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#21 Badosh
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Pitbulllova
You must check-in with Mommy (Microsoft) every 24 hours, or else.

wow what the hell... what happens if i dont check in with MS and turn my 720 on?

You can't play.
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#22 emgesp
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Pitbulllova
You must check-in with Mommy (Microsoft) every 24 hours, or else.

wow what the hell... what happens if i dont check in with MS and turn my 720 on?

You don't want to know.
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#23 Basinboy
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="Basinboy"] Just because it was doesn't mean it's going to stay that way.

Sony has said online is free. MS has said XBL will be a premium paid service.

You recall when Sony said that? Because they haven't. Their online plans are still TBA.
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#24 Pitbulllova
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[QUOTE="Basinboy"][QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="Basinboy"] Just because it was doesn't mean it's going to stay that way.

Sony has said online is free. MS has said XBL will be a premium paid service.

You recall when Sony said that? Because they haven't. Their online plans are still TBA.

yeah i am pretty sure they haven't. although it would be smart of them to do it and make billions of dollars of profit, personally for me and thousands of other people it would be a deal breaker.
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#25 Badosh
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[QUOTE="Basinboy"] You recall when Sony said that? Because they haven't. Their online plans are still TBA.

PS Plus will be part of PS4 and they like it the way it is, so highly doubtful they'll make you pay for normal PSN.
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first of all, i have both an xbox 360 and ps3.. its not surprising that i prefer my xbox 360 more though. I love the games better, forza 3> GT5 (i have both) gears > killzone, and ext ext.

 

HOWEVER, i had great hopes for the xbox one, but its weaker than the ps4 ( can someone tell me how much weaker?) i DONT care for kinect, and it seems like MS is focusing too much on stuff other than CORE GAMING.

 

Well the only way id get a PS4 rather than an Xbox one is... if MS charged for playing online, and Sony didnt. I just dont want my achievement points to go to waste, and i LOVE xbox excllusives. So yeah, thats my main condition.. if they BOTH charge for online, ill most likely get an XBOX One :)

 

What do you other xbox fans feel?

Pitbulllova

I guess you didn't pay attention at all this gen huh

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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="Basinboy"] You recall when Sony said that? Because they haven't. Their online plans are still TBA.

PS Plus will be part of PS4 and they like it the way it is, so highly doubtful they'll make you pay for normal PSN.

I'm sure Sony likes making money much more than they like PSN. How they go about it, though, is entirely up in the air. They could do a tiered model (Silver: Online play, no Gaikai = $20 a year)(Gold: Online play+Gaikai = $40)(PS+: Deals & Free games & early betas, Online play, Gaikai = $60+ a year), which I'm suspecting they might employ. But knowing that MS will be charging for online really makes the free online play bullet point a huge advantage from the get-go and if I were in the board room pulling one way or the other, I'd be arguing to keep online play free. But hey, this is business baby.
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The only way I would get a PS4 is day fvcking 1...awwww yeahhhh
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[QUOTE="Badosh"]As an 360 fan. PS4 won. Pitbulllova
come on man, you cant say that yet, in terms of specs... slightly yes. but we shall see. it all depends on online pricing IMO for most of the people whom are in the middle of deciding

We all saw the PS3's power advantage pay off in spades...right.

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[QUOTE="Basinboy"] I'm sure Sony likes making money much more than they like PSN. How they go about it, though, is entirely up in the air. They could do a tiered model (Silver: Online play, no Gaikai = $20 a year)(Gold: Online play+Gaikai = $40)(PS+: Deals & Free games & early betas, Online play, Gaikai = $60+ a year), which I'm suspecting they might employ. But knowing that MS will be charging for online really makes the free online play bullet point a huge advantage from the get-go and if I were in the board room pulling one way or the other, I'd be arguing to keep online play free. But hey, this is business baby.

Sorry, Sony loves gamers more than they love money.
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[QUOTE="Pitbulllova"]

first of all, i have both an xbox 360 and ps3.. its not surprising that i prefer my xbox 360 more though. I love the games better, forza 3> GT5 (i have both) gears > killzone, and ext ext.

 

HOWEVER, i had great hopes for the xbox one, but its weaker than the ps4 ( can someone tell me how much weaker?) i DONT care for kinect, and it seems like MS is focusing too much on stuff other than CORE GAMING.

 

Well the only way id get a PS4 rather than an Xbox one is... if MS charged for playing online, and Sony didnt. I just dont want my achievement points to go to waste, and i LOVE xbox excllusives. So yeah, thats my main condition.. if they BOTH charge for online, ill most likely get an XBOX One :)

 

What do you other xbox fans feel?

NathanDrakeSwag

I guess you didn't pay attention at all this gen huh

lol, as i said, i have both. and do be frank i havent bought xbl gold in 2 years cause ive been buying MP games on my ps3 and SP games on my xbox. but lemme tell you something, XBOX LIVE GOLD IS 10X BETTER THAN PSN. but why should i pay for something, if i get it free on the ps3? argh, all those achievements i worked hard for.
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PS4 has won, better hardware and better games.FPSfan1985
You dont know what games the PS4 has, you also have no idea what the 15 exclusives and 8 new IPs are on the Xbox One.  Stop talking.  Hopefully Sony will re-release Dust 514 for PS4 since it looks so great.

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You recall when Sony said that? Because they haven't. Their online plans are still TBA.Basinboy

Sony's stance on PSN has been an "always free" one. 

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[QUOTE="Basinboy"] Sorry, Sony loves gamers more than they love money. Badosh

[QUOTE="Basinboy"] You recall when Sony said that? Because they haven't. Their online plans are still TBA.-RPGamer-

Sony's stance on PSN has been an "always free" one. 

Doesn't mean it's gonna to stay that way.  PS+ is evidence enough of that.  And when a company is hurting as much as Sony has been, desperate times (you know how it ends).

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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]PS4 has won, better hardware and better games.mynamesdenvrmax

You dont know what games the PS4 has, you also have no idea what the 15 exclusives and 8 new IPs are on the Xbox One.  Stop talking.  Hopefully Sony will re-release Dust 514 for PS4 since it looks so great.

Again I was talking about multiplats which will be better on PS4. AkA 90% of the games I play.
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Man.

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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="Basinboy"]

[QUOTE="-RPGamer-"]

[QUOTE="Basinboy"] You recall when Sony said that? Because they haven't. Their online plans are still TBA.Basinboy

Sony's stance on PSN has been an "always free" one. 

Doesn't mean it's gonna to stay that way.  PS+ is evidence enough of that.  And when a company is hurting as much as Sony has been, desperate times (you know how it ends).

I'm sure Sony's exec's are smoking some nice Cigars right now
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The Xbox one reveal was no doubt better than the PS4 reveal.  But I'm not so stoked about what microsoft is doing with hardware and software. 

 

Possibly blocking used games, no backwards compatibility (WTF MS), and only 500GB of hardrive when you MUST install games?

 

I mean, I like the X1, I really do, but I shouldn't have to try this hard to be EXCITED for it.  C'mon MS, start focusing on the real consumers, GAMERS.

 

E3 better be good.

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Face it LEMS! M$ just admited defeat to SONY with the choices they made with Xone!

SILLY M$.... Wii was a lucky shot! Now you're heading in the WiiU's direction! 

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[QUOTE="Basinboy"] I'm sure Sony likes making money much more than they like PSN. How they go about it, though, is entirely up in the air. They could do a tiered model (Silver: Online play, no Gaikai = $20 a year)(Gold: Online play+Gaikai = $40)(PS+: Deals & Free games & early betas, Online play, Gaikai = $60+ a year), which I'm suspecting they might employ. But knowing that MS will be charging for online really makes the free online play bullet point a huge advantage from the get-go and if I were in the board room pulling one way or the other, I'd be arguing to keep online play free. But hey, this is business baby.Badosh
Sorry, Sony loves gamers more than they love money.

 

Don't be a fool.

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I'm not known for my love of Microsoft (heck, as rarely as I login I'm not known at all), but I was genuinely interested in seeing what they brought to the table. Everything about that presentation and the news that came after tells me that it's the most anti-consumer device I've ever heard about.

Mandatory installs and online check-ins, single-use codes for games on disc and full retail price for installing a used game? Getting rid of XBLA/XBLIG and still charging people for PvP? Go home Microsoft, you're drunk.

I hope for the sake of games as an art form and as an industry that their kind of cynicism isn't rewarded and that people stay away to make it clear that their crap isn't acceptable.

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The Xbox one reveal was no doubt better than the PS4 reveal.  But I'm not so stoked about what microsoft is doing with hardware and software. 

 

Possibly blocking used games, no backwards compatibility (WTF MS), and only 500GB of hardrive when you MUST install games?

 

I mean, I like the X1, I really do, but I shouldn't have to try this hard to be EXCITED for it.  C'mon MS, start focusing on the real consumers, GAMERS.

 

E3 better be good.

GOGOGOGURT

In what way was the X1 reveal better then the PS4 reveal..... 

They showed less games. 

They were less specific with the specs. 

They told us there is going to be at least a once a day required internet connection. 

They told us games will be locked to XBL accounts. 

The ONLY thing I can think of is they showed the physical console. 

:? wtf are you smoking brah?

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#43 MasterX666
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The Xbox one reveal was no doubt better than the PS4 reveal.  But I'm not so stoked about what microsoft is doing with hardware and software. 

 

Possibly blocking used games, no backwards compatibility (WTF MS), and only 500GB of hardrive when you MUST install games?

 

I mean, I like the X1, I really do, but I shouldn't have to try this hard to be EXCITED for it.  C'mon MS, start focusing on the real consumers, GAMERS.

 

E3 better be good.

GOGOGOGURT

Dont punish yourself like this son! Xone reveal was crap and it crushed your dreams of it being anywhere near as good as PS4... The more you hope for it, the more you will suffer!

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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]PS4 has won, better hardware and better games.Pitbulllova
hardware? slightly. games? no. gears> KZ halo> resisitance forza>GT ill miss those games if i get a ps4 :( MANNNNNNNNNNNN LIFE IS HARD

the only one that wins that is halo sir.....flatout
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[QUOTE="Pitbulllova"][QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]PS4 has won, better hardware and better games.youngmurk911
hardware? slightly. games? no. gears> KZ halo> resisitance forza>GT ill miss those games if i get a ps4 :( MANNNNNNNNNNNN LIFE IS HARD

the only one that wins that is halo sir.....flatout

Forza too.
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#46 joel_c17
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first of all, i have both an xbox 360 and ps3.. its not surprising that i prefer my xbox 360 more though. I love the games better, forza 3> GT5 (i have both) gears > killzone, and ext ext.

 

HOWEVER, i had great hopes for the xbox one, but its weaker than the ps4 ( can someone tell me how much weaker?) i DONT care for kinect, and it seems like MS is focusing too much on stuff other than CORE GAMING.

 

Well the only way id get a PS4 rather than an Xbox one is... if MS charged for playing online, and Sony didnt. I just dont want my achievement points to go to waste, and i LOVE xbox excllusives. So yeah, thats my main condition.. if they BOTH charge for online, ill most likely get an XBOX One :)

 

What do you other xbox fans feel?

Pitbulllova
nobody cares
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#47 youngmurk911
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="youngmurk911"][QUOTE="Pitbulllova"] hardware? slightly. games? no. gears> KZ halo> resisitance forza>GT ill miss those games if i get a ps4 :( MANNNNNNNNNNNN LIFE IS HARD

the only one that wins that is halo sir.....flatout

Forza too.

no way
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#48 dercoo
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"]PS4 has won, better hardware and better games.Pitbulllova
hardware? slightly. games? no. gears> KZ halo> resisitance forza>GT ill miss those games if i get a ps4 :( MANNNNNNNNNNNN LIFE IS HARD

You know Microsoft does not own the Gears IP, and with a new generation starting Epic has a high probability of taking the series multiplatform.

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#49 kuraimen
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Wut? I seem to have missed the moment when the ps4 didn't already won.
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#50 FPSfan1985
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[QUOTE="youngmurk911"][QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="youngmurk911"] the only one that wins that is halo sir.....flatout

Forza too.

no way

Of course it is. I can't think of one thing GT does better.