As devastating as this may sound, Bloodborne is the best game ever made.

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Poll As devastating as this may sound, Bloodborne is the best game ever made. (65 votes)

Agree 25%
Disagree 75%

Was on the tubes, and got a random recommendation of a fellow og SW'er, and to my surprise, Bloodborne is his fav game as well. Haven't played the game since mid to late 2016, so it has been a long time, but just having watched 10 minutes of the video, it reminded me how superior the art direction is in this game when compared to anything ever made. And they really didn't skip on anything in this one. Monsters design, boss design, armor design, weapons design, amazingly fitting music and even the menus and the little icons for bleeding, poison, etc looked so stylish.

This is how you create a magnum opus for the future generations to remember for a long time.

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#51  Edited By Mozelleple112
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@sealionact:

And btw you should have done more research before calling out my numbers.

Spiderman 1 sold 13 million on the PS4 as of Aug 2019. It has since launched on PC and on PS5 (plus 4 years and 1 month of market time on the PS4 since that report).

It is very easy to believe those 13 million have grown roughly 50% to a grand total of around 20 million (3x more than Halo CE, which admittedly was a(n educated) guess)

Anyway, pedantics aside Spiderman is vastly more successful than the original Halo or Zelda: OOT in terms of commercial success but its virtually no ones favourite game and has a metacritic score in the 80s. You won't find it in any GOAT list.

Bloodborne on the other hand is 4th place.

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Devastating thread backfire. Ouch!

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#53  Edited By SecretPolice
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^^^^^

lol :P

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#54 Miquella
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In terms of atmosphere in the game, only Stalker 1 can compare.

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#55 PC_Rocks
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Nope. No way near it.

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#56 sealionact
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@Mozelleple112: ….on the list you found. All other lists I found don’t put Bloodborne anywhere near the top.

Opinions.

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#57 hardwenzen
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@sealionact said:

@hardwenzen: Strange. Your poll fell flat on its face for the best game ever though. BB could well be the most requested remake (doubt it) which just goes to show how janky it was on ps4.

Is that the same brand that’s been according to cows going out of business since 2001?

Make one for Halo Infinite and lets see if more than 1% is voted for the game😆

Almost 30% voted a yes when the question is "is it the best ever" is pretty high🤦‍♂️

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@hardwenzen: It's 30fps. Doesn't that mean its a garbage game and is unplayable?

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#59 hardwenzen
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@hardwenzen: It's 30fps. Doesn't that mean its a garbage game and is unplayable?

Its extremely rough. You gotta adjust your brain for at least 48h. But the game is so incredible that it must be done, and everyone did. Starfield ain't one of those games, unfortunately.

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@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: It's 30fps. Doesn't that mean its a garbage game and is unplayable?

Its extremely rough. You gotta adjust your brain for at least 48h. But the game is so incredible that it must be done, and everyone did. Starfield ain't one of those games, unfortunately.

You've never played Starfield, so your opinion is moot.

I have 90 hours in it - it's my 2nd or 3rd favorite Bethesda game. I love Bethesda style RPGs, and Starfield is one of their best by far. So much content, so much fun. One minute, you can be in a dogfight with Crimson Fleet Pirates, the next you could be in a fire fight with Ecliptic mercenaries, and the next you could be dressing up as a "scary alien" to scare away tourists for a doctor who is tired of the distractions.

It is brilliant.

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@dabear: you can dress up as a "scary alien"? Wow so cool! 🤭🤣

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@uitravioience said:

@dabear: you can dress up as a "scary alien"? Wow so cool! 🤭🤣

yes, it is a comedy side quest. Your costume is quite funny looking.

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#63 hardwenzen
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@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: It's 30fps. Doesn't that mean its a garbage game and is unplayable?

Its extremely rough. You gotta adjust your brain for at least 48h. But the game is so incredible that it must be done, and everyone did. Starfield ain't one of those games, unfortunately.

You've never played Starfield, so your opinion is moot.

I have 90 hours in it - it's my 2nd or 3rd favorite Bethesda game. I love Bethesda style RPGs, and Starfield is one of their best by far. So much content, so much fun. One minute, you can be in a dogfight with Crimson Fleet Pirates, the next you could be in a fire fight with Ecliptic mercenaries, and the next you could be dressing up as a "scary alien" to scare away tourists for a doctor who is tired of the distractions.

It is brilliant.

You damage controlling of Starfield didn't work on day one, and is certainly not working now. Just like Halo Infinite, i probably know more about the game that you, someone who has supposedly 90h in.

Starfield is an outdated relic that should've been released between 2014 and 2016.

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#64  Edited By dabear
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@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: It's 30fps. Doesn't that mean its a garbage game and is unplayable?

Its extremely rough. You gotta adjust your brain for at least 48h. But the game is so incredible that it must be done, and everyone did. Starfield ain't one of those games, unfortunately.

You've never played Starfield, so your opinion is moot.

I have 90 hours in it - it's my 2nd or 3rd favorite Bethesda game. I love Bethesda style RPGs, and Starfield is one of their best by far. So much content, so much fun. One minute, you can be in a dogfight with Crimson Fleet Pirates, the next you could be in a fire fight with Ecliptic mercenaries, and the next you could be dressing up as a "scary alien" to scare away tourists for a doctor who is tired of the distractions.

It is brilliant.

You damage controlling of Starfield didn't work on day one, and is certainly not working now. Just like Halo Infinite, i probably know more about the game that you, someone who has supposedly 90h in.

Starfield is an outdated relic that should've been released between 2014 and 2016.

That's just it - I don't think Starfield needs any "damage control". If there is any "damage control" it should be on the review sites who need to defend why they scored it less than an 8/10.

It is a spectacular game - I haven't had this much fun playing a game in a while, and that's coming off having fun with Diablo IV. I like Bethesda games - and this is one of their very best.

You prove time and time again that you have no idea what you are talking about. When it comes to those two games, you have zero credibility.

2014 and 2016, eh? My bro, you have another thread claiming "Bloodbourne is still the greatest video game" (sic), and that game came out in... dum dum duuuuuum... 2015

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@Zero_epyon said:

Couldn't get into it. Tried twice.

Same. Just not for me.

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#66 hardwenzen
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@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: It's 30fps. Doesn't that mean its a garbage game and is unplayable?

Its extremely rough. You gotta adjust your brain for at least 48h. But the game is so incredible that it must be done, and everyone did. Starfield ain't one of those games, unfortunately.

You've never played Starfield, so your opinion is moot.

I have 90 hours in it - it's my 2nd or 3rd favorite Bethesda game. I love Bethesda style RPGs, and Starfield is one of their best by far. So much content, so much fun. One minute, you can be in a dogfight with Crimson Fleet Pirates, the next you could be in a fire fight with Ecliptic mercenaries, and the next you could be dressing up as a "scary alien" to scare away tourists for a doctor who is tired of the distractions.

It is brilliant.

You damage controlling of Starfield didn't work on day one, and is certainly not working now. Just like Halo Infinite, i probably know more about the game that you, someone who has supposedly 90h in.

Starfield is an outdated relic that should've been released between 2014 and 2016.

That's just it - I don't think Starfield needs any "damage control". If there is any "damage control" it should be on the review sites who need to defend why they scored it less than an 8/10.

It is a spectacular game - I haven't had this much fun playing a game in a while, and that's coming off having fun with Diablo IV. I like Bethesda games - and this is one of their very best.

You prove time and time again that you have no idea what you are talking about. When it comes to those two games, you have zero credibility.

2014 and 2016, eh? My bro, you have another thread claiming "Bloodbourne is still the greatest video game" (sic), and that game came out in... dum dum duuuuuum... 2015

Lets leave the Starfield talk for another thread. Its a 7/10 game, and that's OK.

Bloodborne, tho, its a better exclusive than anything ever released on an Xbox system.

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#67 hardwenzen
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@shellcase86 said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Couldn't get into it. Tried twice.

Same. Just not for me.

Why? What were the issues?

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#68 Mesome713
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Clown said 30fps is unplayable but only good game on Sony console is 30fps. What a fail.

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@mesome713 said:

Clown said 30fps is unplayable but only good game on Sony console is 30fps. What a fail.

You have never even played the game

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#70 Jag85
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@Mozelleple112: Spider-Man sold 20M, which means Miles Morales sold 13M.

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@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:

Its extremely rough. You gotta adjust your brain for at least 48h. But the game is so incredible that it must be done, and everyone did. Starfield ain't one of those games, unfortunately.

You've never played Starfield, so your opinion is moot.

I have 90 hours in it - it's my 2nd or 3rd favorite Bethesda game. I love Bethesda style RPGs, and Starfield is one of their best by far. So much content, so much fun. One minute, you can be in a dogfight with Crimson Fleet Pirates, the next you could be in a fire fight with Ecliptic mercenaries, and the next you could be dressing up as a "scary alien" to scare away tourists for a doctor who is tired of the distractions.

It is brilliant.

You damage controlling of Starfield didn't work on day one, and is certainly not working now. Just like Halo Infinite, i probably know more about the game that you, someone who has supposedly 90h in.

Starfield is an outdated relic that should've been released between 2014 and 2016.

That's just it - I don't think Starfield needs any "damage control". If there is any "damage control" it should be on the review sites who need to defend why they scored it less than an 8/10.

It is a spectacular game - I haven't had this much fun playing a game in a while, and that's coming off having fun with Diablo IV. I like Bethesda games - and this is one of their very best.

You prove time and time again that you have no idea what you are talking about. When it comes to those two games, you have zero credibility.

2014 and 2016, eh? My bro, you have another thread claiming "Bloodbourne is still the greatest video game" (sic), and that game came out in... dum dum duuuuuum... 2015

Lets leave the Starfield talk for another thread. Its a 7/10 game, and that's OK.

Bloodborne, tho, its a better exclusive than anything ever released on an Xbox system.

We can talk about how Bloodbourne sold 2 million copies, and how Starfield now has 10 million unique players. Will that work?

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#72  Edited By hardwenzen
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@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:
@dabear said:
@hardwenzen said:

You damage controlling of Starfield didn't work on day one, and is certainly not working now. Just like Halo Infinite, i probably know more about the game that you, someone who has supposedly 90h in.

Starfield is an outdated relic that should've been released between 2014 and 2016.

That's just it - I don't think Starfield needs any "damage control". If there is any "damage control" it should be on the review sites who need to defend why they scored it less than an 8/10.

It is a spectacular game - I haven't had this much fun playing a game in a while, and that's coming off having fun with Diablo IV. I like Bethesda games - and this is one of their very best.

You prove time and time again that you have no idea what you are talking about. When it comes to those two games, you have zero credibility.

2014 and 2016, eh? My bro, you have another thread claiming "Bloodbourne is still the greatest video game" (sic), and that game came out in... dum dum duuuuuum... 2015

Lets leave the Starfield talk for another thread. Its a 7/10 game, and that's OK.

Bloodborne, tho, its a better exclusive than anything ever released on an Xbox system.

We can talk about how Bloodbourne sold 2 million copies, and how Starfield now has 10 million unique players. Will that work?

Unique players?😆😆😆😆😆😆😆How many copies have it sold, nobody gives two shits about unique players. If you want unique players, BB has more cuz the game was given for free on psn, and was available as psn collection title😆😆😆You lose on both front, mr dabear.

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Bloodborne is an amazing game with great atmosphere that FromSoftware hasn't captured again with any of their future titles. I do believe that they can find it again but rather choose not to, for whatever reason. On a ranking of best SoulsBorne games, Bloodborne would be number one. I would argue it's the best game FromSoft has ever made, but like most things on this forum, it's subjective.

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#74 Mesome713
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@hardwenzen: But you said 30fps was unplayable. Guess you enjoyed it on YouTube like you do all your games 🤣

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@mesome713 said:

@hardwenzen: But you said 30fps was unplayable. Guess you enjoyed it on YouTube like you do all your games 🤣

You shouldn't be talking about 30fps when its the maximum frame rate your system is even able to achieve.

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#76  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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I loved Bloodborne! It's more special though because it's a solitary experience. It's unique and it hasn't been whored out for money in the form of unnecessary sequels. It's a game that ascended to greatness because nurture always bests nature.... It's why games like the last of us will never hit that high mark. They'll always take the money rather than let the ip just be.

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Can't be with that frame rate.

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@hardwenzen said:
@mesome713 said:

@hardwenzen: But you said 30fps was unplayable. Guess you enjoyed it on YouTube like you do all your games 🤣

You shouldn't be talking about 30fps when its the maximum frame rate your system is even able to achieve.

At least Nintendo has reasons. Whats your excuse for Bloodborne? You set your rules, now stop being a Clown Cows. This game is unplayable you said.

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#79  Edited By hardwenzen
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@mesome713 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@mesome713 said:

@hardwenzen: But you said 30fps was unplayable. Guess you enjoyed it on YouTube like you do all your games 🤣

You shouldn't be talking about 30fps when its the maximum frame rate your system is even able to achieve.

At least Nintendo has reasons. Whats your excuse for Bloodborne? You set your rules, now stop being a Clown Cows. This game is unplayable you said.

Fromsoft has reasons as well, they're using a dogwater engine🤷‍♂️But even with this garbage engine, they were able to produce the best aesthetic seen in a video game.

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I love Bloodborne with passion ... but i still take Dark Souls 3 over this. Not a particular reason, i just really like Dark Souls 3 and i played it the most.

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#81 Mesome713
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@hardwenzen said:
@mesome713 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@mesome713 said:

@hardwenzen: But you said 30fps was unplayable. Guess you enjoyed it on YouTube like you do all your games 🤣

You shouldn't be talking about 30fps when its the maximum frame rate your system is even able to achieve.

At least Nintendo has reasons. Whats your excuse for Bloodborne? You set your rules, now stop being a Clown Cows. This game is unplayable you said.

Fromsoft has reasons as well, they're using a dogwater engine🤷‍♂️But even with this garbage engine, they were able to produce the best aesthetic seen in a video game.

At an unplayable 30fps. Stop clowning yourself mate. Its embarrassing. You never make sense.

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#82 hardwenzen
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@mesome713 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@mesome713 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@mesome713 said:

@hardwenzen: But you said 30fps was unplayable. Guess you enjoyed it on YouTube like you do all your games 🤣

You shouldn't be talking about 30fps when its the maximum frame rate your system is even able to achieve.

At least Nintendo has reasons. Whats your excuse for Bloodborne? You set your rules, now stop being a Clown Cows. This game is unplayable you said.

Fromsoft has reasons as well, they're using a dogwater engine🤷‍♂️But even with this garbage engine, they were able to produce the best aesthetic seen in a video game.

At an unplayable 30fps. Stop clowning yourself mate. Its embarrassing. You never make sense.

I don't make sense to you because you're building castles made of cardboard. Quit that shit and you'll get what i am saying😎

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#83 Mesome713
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@hardwenzen: Says the person who plays games on Youtube.

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Might be the most interesting Souls game FROM released in terms of story.

Def have a lot of criticisms, even ignoring the performance.

The idea of a "best game ever" is silly. (it's Factorio tho)

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@sealionact:

Are you sure that's all it sold? That's why too little for how popular it became. That number is unbelievable to me.

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@sargentd said:

I thought it was trash and overated personally

Same.

People are hungup on Bloodborne the way people get hung up on an ex-girlfriend they thought was "the one".

Move on, folks. You enjoyed it, had your fun, there are better games out and there will be better games on top of that when those have been out.

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@sargentd said:

I thought it was trash and overated personally

But you were excited for that Texas Chainsaw game, so you can't be trusted.

Sorry, is that supposed to be a diss? 😋

Last time I saw the Texas Chainsaw game was being received incredibly well and is blast to play.

@pcgamerlaszlo said:

Not going to lie, I bought the game when it released because the PS4 had a game drought at the time. I think I played maybe 2 hours of the game and have yet to pop it back into the ol PS4

Yeah, because it's overrated. Bad? Far from it. The greatest? Also far from it.

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Thread backfire ROFL

but I didn't expect anything else

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@Jag85: Yeah exactly. Crazy numbers. I had no idea (well no idea before I read that news article roughly 1 year ago) that SpiderMan was so widely successful.

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@sealionact: This is the official list my friend. The industry has spoken.

Bloodborne is a top 5 GOAT.

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#91  Edited By Mozelleple112
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@kathaariancode: @tdkmillsy:

You say the thread backfired, but the poll shows that 25% of the population consider Bloodborne the greatest game of all time. That's a wild success in TC's favour. Anything above 10% would be majorly successful in proving his point.

25% in the biggest anti-Sony cult on the internet baffles me. You guys didn't really expect it to get >50%? Maybe if it was multiplat so the Sony haters wouldn't cry about it... Well done Miyazaki.

I don't think it is the greatest game of all time though, that title obviously goes to The Last of Us.

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#92  Edited By Mesome713
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@Mozelleple112: Thread backfired cause they make fun of 30fps games like Zelda TotK, Starfield etc as being unplayable. Yet now this Clown Cow is claiming a 30fps game is their favorite game of all time. Gotta be one of the worst thread backfires in history of SystemWars.

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#93  Edited By hardwenzen
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@mesome713: More people are talking about BB nowadays than botw and totk combined😥

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#94  Edited By Mozelleple112
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@mesome713:

Your lack of logic is unfathomable.

Bloodborne released almost a decade ago.

A decade ago 30 fps was fine.

After the release of PS4 Pro in 2016, X1X in 2017, multiple generations of PC GPUs, and the PS5/XSX in 2020 ... 30 fps is now unplayable. A relic from a time before. 8th gen =/= 9th gen

Do you want us to go back in time and claim Zelda: OOT is a pile of garbage? Because I remember playing it in high school in 2009 and it was fucking janky and terrible. Not to mention how its a pixelated 240p blurry mess?

Or maybe you're not supposed to judge old games by completely modern standards?

We say DMC1 is the best hack and slash game of all time (because it is) but if it had released in 2023 as it was in 2001 it wouldn't get more than 5/10 anywhere. Becayse it is absolutely outdated. Seriously look at DMC5 combat vs DMC1 combat. Its literally three generations ahead.

Times change. Standards evolve.

My favourite game of all time is in 720p (MGS4). and 15 years ago that was completely fine.

Playing TOTK in 720p in 2023 is embarrassing. Luckily I got to play it in 4K/120 on PC in 2023 instead. Starfield being 30fps is an utter disgrace. but MGS4, or TLOU or RDR2 being so is not because that was the norm/standard of their time...

In 30 years time we're going to think 4K/120 is garbage because we'll all be in our 64k/960fps VR worlds.

And mark my words, if The Last of Us 3, Bloodborne 2 or Death Stranding 2 are some how PS5 only and only 30 fps I won't be buying them. Standards people. Raise em.

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#95  Edited By shellcase86
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@hardwenzen said:
@shellcase86 said:
@Zero_epyon said:

Couldn't get into it. Tried twice.

Same. Just not for me.

Why? What were the issues?

Couldn't make any real progress after a couple hours, didn't care for the art style, and the lore/story uninteresting to me (that which I came across).

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#96 blaznwiipspman1
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@hardwenzen: halo infinite is far better.

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#97 hardwenzen
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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@hardwenzen: halo infinite is far better.

Was the reward for releasing a 9/10 firing 50% of 343i, and breaking Bonnie Ross kneecaps?

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I would agree it is one of the worst games ever made, yes.

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#99 Last_Lap
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Yeah, thread backfire. Last count 2 million people bought it out of 120 million users, that's low, objectively the game was a failure.

Even if every PS4 owner named their top 10 games it would be filled with CoD games, Bloodborne wouldn't even make the top 10.

And the only ones that want a remaster are Hermits. I think that says it all.

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#100 hardwenzen
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You lems are trying too hard😊Its not working at all lol Bloodborne is not a game that needs to be defended. Its title alone has everything that needs to be said about the game😊