As much as I hate the idea, I think the 360 won

lol

Xbox 360, despite of its errors in the past, is still selling and offers good games for the lemmings to enjoy and bash/counter-bash their arch fan nemesis, which is the the cows :lol:

While the PS3 is as of now, a glossy chunk of brick that can give but a few good games (only their MGS4 gave them a big boost of morale). And it is also currently selling in the market....as the cheapest blu-ray player :lol:

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="ALTAIR360"]

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]360 is being outsold in all of the regions, where did you get this idea?KOTORkicker

lol

say that in Dec.

what has ps3 left this year ??

LPB? :lol:

R2? :lol:

It might amaze you to know that some people actually perfeir games like LBP ,R2 over gears of war its all down to the player one could easy say

Gears 2 :lol:

Fable 2 :lol:

about the 360s line up so cut the fanboy crap that i have seen you spouting in nearly every thread just remember opinions differ its not the end of the world

God, you are both Fanboys. Which is proven by the fact that you both scoffed at the two systems respective AAA/AAAE's.

Also, I find it quite funny that the six-month headstart that 360 had is exaggerated madly.

'360 Had a year's headstart'

'360 Had a year and a half's headstart'

Sigh. Six months. Not that long. Sony should have been able to recoup from that with ease.

First of all the Dreamcast was the first system to come out last gen and got stomped by the PS2's hype machine. Secondly, don't even begin to compare the unreliability of the PS2 to the 360. Sure the PS2's DRE's were a fairly common problem on the PS2's but nowhere even close to the scale at which the 360's RROD affects people. I mean listen to any gaming podcast or community, it is not uncommon for an entire group of people to have had to send their 360 in, usually multiple times. Hell, the 360 was the first system I have ever had to send in for a warranty repair and btw Microsoft's customer service is atrocious.

Anyways, no the 360 has not won. The Wii is slaughtering it in sales, and even if you consider the Wii to be in a different market the PS3 is now outselling the 360 in every region. The 360 still has great software sales and still have favorable mindshare with much of the enthusiast press and hardcore gamers in general, but the same could have been said of the Dreamcast in it's heyday. If things continue the way they are going, when the PS3 reaches an installed base large enough to nullify the 360's excellent attach rate, the general perception of who is winning this console race is going to take a dramatic turn towards the PS3.

Zerostatic0

So people pull the 'Wii is slaughtering 360 in sales' card on 360 (From which I get a damage control feeling, and just making up for the fact that 360 is still ahead in sales than PS3.) yet everyone has seemingly forgotten deliberately that PS3 is behind both. Both.

I firmly believe that we have hit saturation point in attach rates at the present moment. Sony is going to have to work extremely hard in order to work its way up to the point that 360 has hit.

What console did i scoff at ?? god i hate when people don't read a post though it really shows the education level of some members in system wars

If you had read it you would clearly see that he is making fun of games like LBP and R2 (just because he doesn't like them or what not)I just stated that someone could also say the same about gears2 or fable 2 and that everyones opinion is different and then you come in and start calling me a fanboy without even reading my post correctly

[QUOTE="ALTAIR360"]

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]360 is being outsold in all of the regions, where did you get this idea?micky4889

lol

say that in Dec.

what has ps3 left this year ??

LPB? :lol:

R2? :lol:

It might amaze you to know that some people actually perfeir games like LBP ,R2 over gears of war its all down to the player one could easy say

Gears 2 :lol:

Fable 2 :lol:

about the 360s line up so cut the fanboy crap that i have seen you spouting in nearly every thread just remember opinions differ its not the end of the world

Ok then I guess you should do the same because your posts are not that different.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="KOTORkicker"]Also, I find it quite funny that the six-month headstart that 360 had is exaggerated madly.

'360 Had a year's headstart'

'360 Had a year and a half's headstart'

Sigh. Six months. Not that long. Sony should have been able to recoup from that with ease.GARRYTH

The 360 came out in November of 2005 didnt it? And the PS3 came out in November 2006... a whole year.

Ya but at the time the 360 games came out and the system itself, were games such as Assassins Creed, Metal Gear Solid not being developed on? Thats why I don't understand why people say this head start crap. Didn't the devs have the developement kits already for the PS3 before the system came out? Maybe sales could show somewhat of a headstart, but to make it an excuse such as why some of the overhyped games of the PS3 and some of the ports or muliplats were underwhelming is rediculous.

[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="ALTAIR360"]

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]360 is being outsold in all of the regions, where did you get this idea?xscrapzx

lol

say that in Dec.

what has ps3 left this year ??

LPB? :lol:

R2? :lol:

It might amaze you to know that some people actually perfeir games like LBP ,R2 over gears of war its all down to the player one could easy say

Gears 2 :lol:

Fable 2 :lol:

about the 360s line up so cut the fanboy crap that i have seen you spouting in nearly every thread just remember opinions differ its not the end of the world

Ok then I guess you should do the same because your posts are not that different.

Can no one see that i was writing about opinion not ME I personally love gears of war i was just pointing out that just because he does not like LBP and R2 it doesn't mean no one Else does then because he is a major lemming i went on to say some one(random person) might not like gears or fable 2 but that that does not make him/her opinion=/=fact

360 is gonna be last lol lemmings just cant face reality. it is inferior in every way to the ps3, less exclusives, no cell or blu-ray, no mgs4 =) . ps3 will defeat wii also, wii is a fadpyromaniac223

On topic - Dead first or dead last; the great games keep on flowing for 360 gamers ! :P

Lets look at history:

PS2 is released first in the new generation, as a result, it is an all-around inferior console to its rivals when it comes to hardware and capabilities.

However, because it was first, developers supported it, and it became the most popular system (And consequently the best buy since all the games are on it.)

This generation, the 360 has been released, and it lacks blu-ray, a large hardrive, and processing power compared to the PS3. And yet we're seeing the same marketing pattern as last generation.

The original PS2 was a piece of junk when it came to reliability. Disc Read errors and the like plagued its users.

The 360 has the RROD, but like the PS2, people don't seem to care.




The original X-Box, in spite of being a more powerful system, often looked worse than a lot of the PS2 games.

The 360 looks better than the PS3 a lot of the time, albeit this is regarding multiplats rather than exclusives, which is a swap from the PS2/X-Box relationship last gen




Although the PS3 is a better system, lack of 3rd party support drags it down, just like the X-Box was dragged down last generation.

I hate the idea, but if history repeats itself, things are looking good for 360 owners.

mstc_Q

[QUOTE="mstc_Q"]

I hate the idea, but if history repeats itself, things are looking good for 360 owners.

Jamiemydearx3

Dreamcast had an exclusive AAAA cough PS3 cough. Your points don't mean anything.

While the PS3 is as of now, a glossy chunk of brick that can give but a few good games (only their MGS4 gave them a big boost of morale). And it is also currently selling in the market....as the cheapest blu-ray player :lol:Jyuusandaime

Riiiight. :roll: A glossy chunk of brick?

Lets look at history:

PS2 is released first in the new generation, as a result, it is an all-around inferior console to its rivals when it comes to hardware and capabilities.

However, because it was first, developers supported it, and it became the most popular system (And consequently the best buy since all the games are on it.)

This generation, the 360 has been released, and it lacks blu-ray, a large hardrive, and processing power compared to the PS3. And yet we're seeing the same marketing pattern as last generation.

The original PS2 was a piece of junk when it came to reliability. Disc Read errors and the like plagued its users.

The 360 has the RROD, but like the PS2, people don't seem to care.




The original X-Box, in spite of being a more powerful system, often looked worse than a lot of the PS2 games.

The 360 looks better than the PS3 a lot of the time, albeit this is regarding multiplats rather than exclusives, which is a swap from the PS2/X-Box relationship last gen




Although the PS3 is a better system, lack of 3rd party support drags it down, just like the X-Box was dragged down last generation.

I hate the idea, but if history repeats itself, things are looking good for 360 owners.

mstc_Q

ps2 wasn't released 1st the dreamcast was

[QUOTE="Jyuusandaime"] While the PS3 is as of now, a glossy chunk of brick that can give but a few good games (only their MGS4 gave them a big boost of morale). And it is also currently selling in the market....as the cheapest blu-ray player :lol:carljohnson3456

Riiiight. :roll: A glossy chunk of brick?

No doubt about it :roll:

[QUOTE="mstc_Q"]

Lets look at history:

PS2 is released first in the new generation, as a result, it is an all-around inferior console to its rivals when it comes to hardware and capabilities.

However, because it was first, developers supported it, and it became the most popular system (And consequently the best buy since all the games are on it.)

This generation, the 360 has been released, and it lacks blu-ray, a large hardrive, and processing power compared to the PS3. And yet we're seeing the same marketing pattern as last generation.

The original PS2 was a piece of junk when it came to reliability. Disc Read errors and the like plagued its users.

The 360 has the RROD, but like the PS2, people don't seem to care.




The original X-Box, in spite of being a more powerful system, often looked worse than a lot of the PS2 games.

The 360 looks better than the PS3 a lot of the time, albeit this is regarding multiplats rather than exclusives, which is a swap from the PS2/X-Box relationship last gen




Although the PS3 is a better system, lack of 3rd party support drags it down, just like the X-Box was dragged down last generation.

I hate the idea, but if history repeats itself, things are looking good for 360 owners.

micky4889

There is a major hole in your theory

The xbox never stood a chance against the ps2 sales Wise it demolished it on the other hand you have the ps3 vs 360 where the only reason the 360 is winning is due to the years head start and the ps3 has been out selling the 360 world wide since mid 2007 and is set to pass it in mid 2009

Lets look at history:

PS2 is released first in the new generation, as a result, it is an all-around inferior console to its rivals when it comes to hardware and capabilities.

However, because it was first, developers supported it, and it became the most popular system (And consequently the best buy since all the games are on it.)

This generation, the 360 has been released, and it lacks blu-ray, a large hardrive, and processing power compared to the PS3. And yet we're seeing the same marketing pattern as last generation.

The original PS2 was a piece of junk when it came to reliability. Disc Read errors and the like plagued its users.

The 360 has the RROD, but like the PS2, people don't seem to care.




The original X-Box, in spite of being a more powerful system, often looked worse than a lot of the PS2 games.

The 360 looks better than the PS3 a lot of the time, albeit this is regarding multiplats rather than exclusives, which is a swap from the PS2/X-Box relationship last gen




Although the PS3 is a better system, lack of 3rd party support drags it down, just like the X-Box was dragged down last generation.

I hate the idea, but if history repeats itself, things are looking good for 360 owners.

mstc_Q

Are you on crack?

PS2 was just as PS3 released after the competition has started with Nintendo and Xbox. It was considered problematic to develop for and game companies cried their eye balls ever since it day-viewed.

It also had a crum precentage of faults and maulfunctions - 2% to be precise just like PS3 has today.

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="Jyuusandaime"] While the PS3 is as of now, a glossy chunk of brick that can give but a few good games (only their MGS4 gave them a big boost of morale). And it is also currently selling in the market....as the cheapest blu-ray player :lol:Jyuusandaime

Riiiight. :roll: A glossy chunk of brick?

No doubt about it :roll:

You obviously dont own one, do you?

well , since you forgot wii let me tell you somthing , 360 isnt winning, just yet, microsofts got a big chore the nintendo wii what made nes successful and ps2 successful is the same exact reason wii is gonna be succesful , its revolutionary , its new controller you take that add free online wifi out of the box a virtual console that lets you dl vast selection of nes snes n64 genesis tg16 sms games and wii ware all new games from the ground up in one console, add backwards compatibilities with gamecube games , then you add a whole bunch of good wii games to that mixture,

you got your self one heck of a gaming machine,

all youll need is a ps3, and youll have almost anything 360 has and more, so no microsoft is not out of the woods no ones gonna top wii , thats the plain truth, sony had 2 good runs at the top now its nintendos turn , they may have 2 more runs 3 if good, at the top , loads of gamers are starting to realise doign the same thing over again with better processers isnt gonna cut it no more, hence why nintendos back at the top ,

mariokart64fan

Okay I have a question about downloading vast amounts of games through Nintendo virtual console. I don't own a wii but I know it lacks a hard drive so how do you download all the games?

As for the second part I would argue that gamers are going back to Nintendo. I admit that Nintendo is winning the war of the gaming machine but it's not because hard core gamers everywhere are abandoning their 360's/PS3's. If anything the Wii is normally a secondary console for the hardcore gamer. The reason Nintendo is back on top is because hordes of housewives, children and grandmothers are getting into casual gaming and buying Wii's.

In essence the Wii can't really be put in league with the 360 and PS3 as there is really no comparison. So far there are only a handful of hardcore gaming titles on the system and none of the features can compete with what the other systems have to offer.

Nintendo obviously doesn't care about this they're just glad to be making money, as can be seen by there showings at E3 this year.

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]But 360 isn't the same in hardware sale, that's the Wii.mstc_Q

The Wii isn't a traditional gaming platform, nor will it ever be.

It's something else entirally, so I tend to ignore it in comparisons like this.

It most definately can't replace other systems if you like Traditional gaming.

So in the consol wars the 360 wins by default because?

1.This generation is far from over and may be the longest active generation from the looks of it.

2.Wether you like it or not the Wii is part of the system wars, you can't just ignore it because it's not part of your plan or idea of a system.

3. With deminishing sales and being outsold month after month by both the PS3 and Wii, your hypothesis has a few flaws.

4. Just because the PS2 won last generation by a HUGE margin, doesnt mean the 360 can or will ever replicate the sucess of the system that still continues to sell tons of units.

5. You are trying to compare apples and oranges...

[QUOTE="mstc_Q"]

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]But 360 isn't the same in hardware sale, that's the Wii.Jynxzor

The Wii isn't a traditional gaming platform, nor will it ever be.

It's something else entirally, so I tend to ignore it in comparisons like this.

It most definately can't replace other systems if you like Traditional gaming.

So in the consol wars the 360 wins by default because?

1.This generation is far from over and may be the longest active generation from the looks of it.

2.Wether you like it or not the Wii is part of the system wars, you can't just ignore it because it's not part of your plan or idea of a system.

3. With deminishing sales and being outsold month after month by both the PS3 and Wii, your hypothesis has a few flaws.

4. Just because the PS2 won last generation by a HUGE margin, doesnt mean the 360 can or will ever replicate the sucess of the system that still continues to sell tons of units.

5. You are trying to compare apples and oranges...

Wins by default because it's better at everything and first to the table with everything. Ths wii, is a winner of last generational proportions, but not current gen.

No, the Wii won. :)Sgt_Crow

[QUOTE="Jyuusandaime"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="Jyuusandaime"] While the PS3 is as of now, a glossy chunk of brick that can give but a few good games (only their MGS4 gave them a big boost of morale). And it is also currently selling in the market....as the cheapest blu-ray player :lol:1xcalibur1

Riiiight. :roll: A glossy chunk of brick?

No doubt about it :roll:

You obviously dont own one, do you?

PS3? No and I even want to own one, unless I want a dust collector in my room :lol:

[QUOTE="1xcalibur1"][QUOTE="Jyuusandaime"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"]

[QUOTE="Jyuusandaime"] While the PS3 is as of now, a glossy chunk of brick that can give but a few good games (only their MGS4 gave them a big boost of morale). And it is also currently selling in the market....as the cheapest blu-ray player :lol:Jyuusandaime

Riiiight. :roll: A glossy chunk of brick?

No doubt about it :roll:

You obviously dont own one, do you?

PS3? No and I even want to own one, unless I want a dust collector in my room :lol:

Let me rephrase.... I don't have a PS3 and I don't even want it unless I want a dust collector in my room :lol: