As much as I like Kojima..

I really don't think Kojima and members of Kojima Productions used the full power of the PS3. In recent interviews he claims while developing MGS4 ( which will be a great title btw) they used the PS3 to its full specs. The reason I doubt Kojima because there's a few titles that are out, and in development. The devs of those games say their not even close to using the full specs of the PS3. I'm speaking of Square-Enix on FFXIII,Vs XIII, Polyphony digital on GT5 and a few other devs.

DO you think MGS 4 was developed using the full specs of the PS3? (let's discuss)

(BTW lets clarify this now I'm in no way shape or form a cow or any type of fanboy. I don't even own a PS3 yet MGS4 is reason I'll own a PS3)

kojima started damage controling already i think this game is going to flop.

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I really don't think Kojima and members of Kojima Productions used the full power of the PS3. In recent interviews he claims while developing MGS4 ( which will be a great title btw) they used the PS3 to its full specs. The reason I doubt Kojima because there's a few titles that are out, and in development. The devs of those games say their not even close to using the full specs of the PS3. I'm speaking of Square-Enix on FFXIII,Vs XIII, Polyphony digital on GT5 and a few other devs.

DO you think MGS 4 was developed using the full specs of the PS3? (let's discuss)

jasonharris48

i would have to say he might be right he almost killed ps2 with snake eater which was amazing i could see that with mgs4 he has high hopes and that is what i love about him

They didn't use the full power of the PS3?

What the **** do you people know? Where's your upcoming title for the Playstation 3? Where's your development team?

I doubt he would lie. And I doubt even more than the cell is the 3D gaming powerhouse Sony's marketing department and it's brainwashed adherents claim it is.

Why does Kojima insist on criticizing his game before release? I mean honestly, he says they maxed out the game, but he was dissapointed in the graphics. I mean if I was a dumb blind fanboy that believed everything the man said, I would conclude that the PS3 has graphics max only capable of MGS4. I'm sorry, even the new high rez shots from IGN, FINAL GAME, are not really impressive to todays standards for next gen games. Kojima's team has a bad tendency to use washed out environments, but, very detailed characters wheras most other devs build high resolution environs and characters.

Why does Kojima insist on criticizing his game before release? I mean honestly, he says they maxed out the game, but he was dissapointed in the graphics. I mean if I was a dumb blind fanboy that believed everything the man said, I would conclude that the PS3 has graphics max only capable of MGS4. I'm sorry, even the new high rez shots from IGN, FINAL GAME, are not really impressive to todays standards for next gen games. Kojima's team has a bad tendency to use washed out environments, but, very detailed characters wheras most other devs build high resolution environs and characters.

MadExponent

kojima started damage controling already i think this game is going to flop.

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blackice1983

Yes, because I'm sure that he or any other dev cares what scores the game gets.

If you think that scores actually matter to anyone in the industry then you're mistaken about everything. It's nice for the fans to argue about but all the makers care about is that people are buying it and they're enjoying it.

As long as that happens it can score all 1's and they wont bat an eyelash.

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kojima started damage controling already i think this game is going to flop.

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Jaysonguy

Yes, because I'm sure that he or any other dev cares what scores the game gets.

If you think that scores actually matter to anyone in the industry then you're mistaken about everything. It's nice for the fans to argue about but all the makers care about is that people are buying it and they're enjoying it.

As long as that happens it can score all 1's and they wont bat an eyelash.

Actually a lot of people in the industry do care.

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="blackice1983"]

kojima started damage controling already i think this game is going to flop.

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justforlotr2004

Yes, because I'm sure that he or any other dev cares what scores the game gets.

If you think that scores actually matter to anyone in the industry then you're mistaken about everything. It's nice for the fans to argue about but all the makers care about is that people are buying it and they're enjoying it.

As long as that happens it can score all 1's and they wont bat an eyelash.

Actually a lot of people in the industry do care.

No they don't

If they did there would be an Okami 2

[QUOTE="justforlotr2004"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="blackice1983"]

kojima started damage controling already i think this game is going to flop.

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Jaysonguy

Yes, because I'm sure that he or any other dev cares what scores the game gets.

If you think that scores actually matter to anyone in the industry then you're mistaken about everything. It's nice for the fans to argue about but all the makers care about is that people are buying it and they're enjoying it.

As long as that happens it can score all 1's and they wont bat an eyelash.

Actually a lot of people in the industry do care.

No they don't

If they did there would be an Okami 2

... Thats the consumers fault for not buying the game. Yes they care more about sales than scores but they sure as hell do care about scores quite a bit since it gauges how much hype their game is gonna get. If they didnt care their wouldnt be those few developers trying to bribe the press for good scores.

This is hilarious. Suddenly all the fanboys know the full extent of the PS3 power better than someone creating one of the lead games for it.Vandalvideo

very hilarious indeed

Maybe to his knowledge they did use all of it's power, but programming techniques are always improving, allowing you to truly maximize performance. His techniques are truly unique though, while they may not be localized in mind blowing textures everywhere, nothing is replicated in his game's world.

All of this is stemming off of the fact that the PS3 hardware was downgraded from what he was building the game around, he really wanted a wider gap between MGS3 and MGS4, just like he did with the original and MGS2, he can't do that with the current hardware, since the gap between PS2 and PS3 is not like PS1 and PS2. His interview doesn't faze me at all, I know the game will live up to my expectations.

Lol, Kojima = god until he disses the PS3 then everybody wants to grind him up into hamburger for it.Riverwolf007

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]This is hilarious. Suddenly all the fanboys know the full extent of the PS3 power better than someone creating one of the lead games for it.manny280

very hilarious indeed

MGO trailers looks aweful MASSIVE JAGGIES on the shaddows. But tbh the game is basically perfect from what we've seen, if you are worried about processing power affecting gameplay then why on earth do you have a PS3? hongkingkong

Well MGS 4 does look very good. But he also mentioned they could put MGS4 on the XBOX 360 if they wanted to, does this mean both systems are fairly equal?xiayan

This is hilarious. Suddenly all the fanboys know the full extent of the PS3 power better than someone creating one of the lead games for it.Vandalvideo

Well, this is System Wars after all.

Just because they used the full power of a console doesn't mean their isn't going to be better games in the future. Its up to the developer to wisely use their resources they have. Kojima's team were misguided by Sony and during the planing stages they overstepped what the PS3 could do and now the game is too far along to go back and rework things. The most they can hope to do is optimise their game the best they can at the stage they are at.justforlotr2004

This guy speaks the truth.

why is everybody such "graphic ho's" A good game is a good game. I have loved all his games from the first one I played on my Nintendo. I don't think his interview will change my mind on what kind of fun I will have. Only playing the game will allow me to know how much fun it is.

You guys have to think that using a system to its full spec doesn't mean it needs to have the best graphics. You have to consider everything that goes on in the game and if the system is capable of running it any better than what it already is.C-Himura

I agree with this guy 100% A.I. takes a nice chunk of processing power alone.