Assassins Creed Shadows - world premiere trailer!

Why not. The reception of the character is mixed. If well received we would not be having this discussion.

He was tall, but not that tall. The historical Yasuke was about 6ft tall. But that was still exceptionally tall by medieval standards, when the average male height in medieval England and feudal Japan was around 5'5.

@Jag85: but anyhow japan do have few memorial parks dedicated to the english guy and in UK, apparently in Gillingham there is a yearly festival dedicated to the guy and memorial raised. At least someone still remembers his contribution. Thats nice leaving ur mark in the world.

Everything in the trailers seemed like he is at least 6.4". Dude's massive, and sneaking, or any kind of stealth, is goofy af on a character like that.

Because it is a ridiculous suggestion. You are asking that the nation of Japan should vote on this issue.

You just need an appropriate sample size for the vote.

@sakaixx: most people vote would be: I don't really care about what happens in this video game.

It doesn't really matters. If they like it they will buy it, if they don't they won't.

There is zero need for a vote.

That's because Gillingham is his hometown. But outside his hometown, he wasn't well known in the UK. However, he is becoming more well known recently after Nioh (among gamers) and especially Shogun (mainstream audience).

@sakaixx: You are still in the territory of ridiculous. As stated before, there wasn't a vote for Nioh(white man) and there wasn't a vote for Yasuke in Samurai Warriors 5 but somehow you believe that this game, he should be voted on.😂 That is some interesting shit.

I still haven't played through the latest AC. I didn't mind Odyssey, even though it was pretty repetitive but it was good mindless entertainment when my kid wasn't moving around as a wee lad. I'll wait to play through this after a year or two when I can get it on sale for dirt cheap. An AC game in Japan sounds pretty neat though.

That's basically design by committee... which is exactly what's wrong with modern Ubisoft in the first place.

But regardless of recent popularit, he is known and is a figure that is well documented by the japanese and as per u admitted UK. If even japanese felt he that influential to make a game based on his likeness I dont see an issue.

Not really, its just a survey research. Why not isnt it important to do it to understand is there japanese pushback against such issue?

In Japan, William Adams and Yasuke are both fairly well-known and have been featured in a bunch of Japanese media. But outside Japan, they were both obscure figures until recent years. It's because of modern media like Nioh (game), Yasuke (anime) and Shogun (show) that people outside Japan are becoming more aware of them.

@sakaixx: Yes, really it is ridiculous. You suggested that the nation of Japan should vote on the inclusion of a documented and historic figure in a videogame solely because he black . The white samurai didn't and doesn't need a national vote.😂

@Jag85: Yasuke is a not as known and even then he consistently relegated to asterisks due to everyone wondering what the heck he even doing due to lack of written exploits during his stay in japan.

@Pedro: why not, its just a sample vote.

I already stated why not several times.🤷🏾‍♂️

@Pedro: as I said its just sample vote. Its not that big just representing enough percentage of whatever metric required. Ubisoft get it done, shuts up the naysayers everyone happy.

In the end ubisoft did it because its still about representation. Just make an ass creed in africa or a modern ass creed where these stuff is no longer up for debate if you worried about certain group representation in medias.

You mean Bayek?

Yasuke has been featured in a bunch of Japanese popular media. Many Japanese already know who he is. It's Western gaijin who've never heard of him.

@sakaixx: A developer has never needed permission from any group for the inclusion or exclusion of what characters can look like I'm a game. This is not going to be the exception because westerners are entrenched in culture wars. Your suggestion still falls into being ridiculous.

I somewhat agree with this take... If the goal was representation, then they should've made an AC game set in historic Sub-Saharan Africa instead. There's plenty of material they could work with, like Mansa Musa or Shaka Zulu. That would be a better form of representation than inserting a black character into medieval Europe or feudal Japan.

But from a storytelling perspective, Yasuke's story is interesting. He went from being a slave kidnapped by European colonialists in Africa to entering the inner circle of Japan's most famous emperor Nobunaga, before fighting in a last stand where he fails to save Nobunaga and then disappears from history. It's a tale worth telling on its own merits.

Wow, making anti woke people who scream historical inaccuracy look stupid.

A game based on Shaka Zulu would actually be goated. Not only was he a ruler, but he actually fought. He was the general of his army and basically came up with most of the strategies and even taught his soldiers how to fight. The guy was seriously a military genius and had a respected honor code, for the most part. (How he treated the women he slept with and sometimes even his own men were... 🤐) That would actually be a very interesting game. Especially when exploring his downfall. Though I don't know if any dev would be willing to do so. Especially with the anti-woke brigade basically boycotting games with black people nowadays. Shaka Zulu was a game that should've been made a whole back, before people became anti-woke. Though once this anti-woke phase passes, perhaps a fully realized Shake Zulu game can be made.

Mansa Musa would actually make a very fun movie, or show. The extravagance of the movie would compete with Marie Antoinette, Aladdin, Curse of the Golden Flower, etc. 😫 Though Hollywood wouldn't fund such a movie/show. Especially with, once again, the anti-woke crowd throwing tantrums over any sort of property with black people. The only thing I can hope for is Shonda Rhimes to make such a movie, etc. Shonda Rhimes does like diverse casts, duh she's a black woman, and she's already dabbled into historical fiction with Bridgerton (another show with extravagance). She's the only one that I have hope in, to create such a movie/show (for now).

That looks great...we'll see how the gameplay pans out. Love the setting!

AC once was decent but is now garbage, and what does hold merit in the formula the franchise established has been perfected in Ghost of Tsushima. I don’t know why anyone would be interested in this game when there is something far more competently executed available that appeals, mechanically and in general gameplay structure, to AC, yet without all the filler and worst design inclinations that Ubi insists upon infusing into their works to their inevitable detriment.

Though playing a black Samurai would be intriguing, and something I’d definitely be interested in seeing, but I doubt such a novelty could overcome my extreme dislike for Ubi’s monetization schemes masquerading as games….aka….the Assassin’s Creed series.

No thanks. Give me a real talented studio instead, and bring on Ghost of Tsushima II: Jin’s exile.

Like I have said before, Ghost of Tsushima is so ridiculously similar to AC that it is strange reading comments that paint it as notably different. I played Ghost of Tsushima immediately after finish AC: Origins.

I absolutely concede it’s similar. Again, there is merit in the formula that AC introduced, and that merit is to be found in execution. But nothing in GoT feels superfluous to me. Yes it’s formulaic, yes it’s repetitive, even generic to an extent, but it all serves a narrative arc and end. AC feels like filler, games solely designed at their cores to give excuse to play to try to push the player towards the embracement of monetizing their playtime.

I’ve never argued there’s anything necessarily wrong with AC‘s formula. What I take exception to in the comparison between GoT and AC, in that just because their mechanics and structure are similar, they service similar ends. They don’t, and Ghosts is a far better game because of it.

That is a very notable difference, but is found at the core of its design which is often why people can’t see it.

@MirkoS77: Because I played GoT immediately after Origins, my experience was closer to a repeat of Origins with a Japanese theme and I found it to be a better game than GoT. My playthrough of Origins was with all the DLC included. I cannot comment on Odyssey or Vahalla.

@Pedro: AC, and Ubi’s products in general, represent and speak strongly to what I so loathe about big budget, AAA gaming: soulless, manufactured, assembly line garbage that hold no great distinction or uniqueness from one another, but are obligatorily farted out to appease capitalistic endeavor over creative vision.

They are boring, rote, and have very little to no creative passion that I can see. Play one AC, and you have played them all. This prioritization permeates through their products.

If you and others enjoy them, then more power to you. Not me. Much of my issues with Ubi stem from a disagreement about their corporate philosophies, and that is directly reflected in their work.

Valhalla is better than GoT. It is far more imaginative in gameplay and quest design.

You say all this but accolade a game that mirrors the design of AC:Origins.🤷🏽‍♂️ Feels more like the issues you have with Ubisoft is driving your evaluation than the games themselves.

I have yet to be in the mood for Valhalla and I heard from several folks that it is good.

wtf is up with this company🤣🗑🤣🗑🤣🗑🤣🗑🤣

This on its own needs its thread tbh. This is why this developer (and many others) are fucking failing at creating entertaining video games. IMAGINE THINKING OF GOD DAMN TRANSGENERATIONAL SEX while developing a video game. holy fucking shit. Insane if you ask me.

@hardwenzen: At the beginning of their games, they specifically state that their company is filled with people of varying beliefs, gender identities (iirc for this one), and sexual preferences, if memory serves. Like, why do I care? Why do you feel the need to tell me this? Make a good game and it'll speak for itself. :/

I actually didn't knew this since i don't play anything they make. Must be the most pander happy company in the whole industry. That is so cringe.

@hardwenzen: Yes. It's like when Disney has "trigger" warnings for their older movies on Disney+, but in Ubi's case, it's their "inclusivity." LOL

@hardwenzen

Oh gawd. My hate toward this company has increased by 3%.

Interestingly, Yasuke's home country of Mozambique is located right next to the Zulu Kingdom... When Yasuke was taken as a slave by the Portuguese, he apparently served as a bodyguard for his Portuguese masters. And then when he arrived to Japan, he was renowned for his strength, which impressed Nobunaga so much that he enlisted him into his army after just a year of training with Samurais. This would suggest that Yasuke already had combat training from back home in Mozambique, where his fighting style was probably quite similar to the Zulu fighting style.

I've never watched anything from Shonda Rhimes. All I know of her work is Bridgerton, which I'm not really a fan of. It certainly looks extravagant, but I do have an issue with how the race-swapping basically whitewashes the racism of Victorian England. Ironically, Great Ace Attorney does a better job of depicting the racism of Victorian England, which was offensive to white liberals (lol).

I guess I'd have to see where their timelines line up. Though King Shaka did make a weapon that favored close combat, and he trained his warriors. Perhaps the Mozambique country saw some of these tactics deployed (against them?). Even more of a reason for a Shaka Zulu game.

I like Bridgerton and Queen Charlotte. Queen Charlotte explores the racism. Though I do like Bridgerton for not talking about it. Sometimes, I just like the fantasy of shows with black characters, without the talk of racism. It's like when police brutality was a thing, and every black show had an episode about the police stopping them. Sometimes it's good to talk about racism, but I also just want the escapism.

@luxuryheart: Shaka came a few centuries after Yasuke, so it's different time periods. But Shaka's tactics must be an evolution of what they were doing centuries earlier.

To be fair, I haven't seen much of Bridgerton. I'm not really into Victorian romantic dramas. I know people who love Bridgerton (mainly women), but it's just not my cup of tea.

Here is a fact for all the right wing cultural slobs who say that Japan is being offended by the game.

Dominating Amazon pre orders IN JAPAN.

Nevermind, despite all the dumb hate, Valhalla is the most successful AC game ever.

It's the inverse of Stellar Blade. All the reactionaries need to know that all press is good press. It's what helped Velma, Stellar Blade, this game, and others. No matter what, press will get eye balls on something.

I was on the Disney+ today and saw (and totally forgot) Asshole Creed had a movie with Michael the FastBender.

Think everyone forgot this existed. Wish they'd do the same for the games.