At last, Naughty Dog admits PS3 is WEAK !!!

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.tricyclon123

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.tricyclon123

Their engine was not good enough = PS3 weak?

Wait, this is good news, they are 90% near the trailer quality, given how much time they still have left before the release I don't see why they couldn't take it all the way.

[QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.tricyclon123

Their engine was not good enough = PS3 weak?

Wait, this is good news, they are 90% near the trailer quality, given how much time they still have left before the release I don't see why they couldn't take it all the way.

Too much damage control in this thread ....

If PS3 was the god like machine they promised, and any of those pics of games was real, now they would not have to excuse themselves, right ?

But fact is not one game on PS3 did not get the downgrade, seems like EVERY DEVELOPER overestimated what PS3 can do, so that is why all first pics - videos of games are 100% fakes

[QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.tricyclon123

Their engine was not good enough = PS3 weak?

Wait, this is good news, they are 90% near the trailer quality, given how much time they still have left before the release I don't see why they couldn't take it all the way.

Too much damage control in this thread ....

If PS3 was the god like machine they promised, and any of those pics of games was real, now they would not have to excuse themselves, right ?

But fact is not one game on PS3 did not get the downgrade, seems like EVERY DEVELOPER overestimated what PS3 can do, so that is why all first pics - videos of games are 100% fakes

[QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.Ibacai

Their engine was not good enough = PS3 weak?

Wait, this is good news, they are 90% near the trailer quality, given how much time they still have left before the release I don't see why they couldn't take it all the way.

Too much damage control in this thread ....

If PS3 was the god like machine they promised, and any of those pics of games was real, now they would not have to excuse themselves, right ?

But fact is not one game on PS3 did not get the downgrade, seems like EVERY DEVELOPER overestimated what PS3 can do, so that is why all first pics - videos of games are 100% fakes

You have NO CLUE man, engines run off HARDWARE, they are not an idea, it is an implementation, they used a super pc for the first pics, but turned PS3 is far far weaker, that is all there is to it

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

Lemmings knows the end is comming and they are grasping for straws.-Reggaeton-

Right !!!

[QUOTE="-Reggaeton-"]Lemmings knows the end is comming and they are grasping for straws.tricyclon123

Right !!!

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.tricyclon123

Their engine was not good enough = PS3 weak?

Wait, this is good news, they are 90% near the trailer quality, given how much time they still have left before the release I don't see why they couldn't take it all the way.

Too much damage control in this thread ....

If PS3 was the god like machine they promised, and any of those pics of games was real, now they would not have to excuse themselves, right ?

But fact is not one game on PS3 did not get the downgrade, seems like EVERY DEVELOPER overestimated what PS3 can do, so that is why all first pics - videos of games are 100% fakes

You have NO CLUE man, engines run off HARDWARE, they are not an idea, it is an implementation, they used a super pc for the first pics, but turned PS3 is far far weaker, that is all there is to it

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

[QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.Ibacai

Their engine was not good enough = PS3 weak?

Wait, this is good news, they are 90% near the trailer quality, given how much time they still have left before the release I don't see why they couldn't take it all the way.

Too much damage control in this thread ....

If PS3 was the god like machine they promised, and any of those pics of games was real, now they would not have to excuse themselves, right ?

But fact is not one game on PS3 did not get the downgrade, seems like EVERY DEVELOPER overestimated what PS3 can do, so that is why all first pics - videos of games are 100% fakes

You have NO CLUE man, engines run off HARDWARE, they are not an idea, it is an implementation, they used a super pc for the first pics, but turned PS3 is far far weaker, that is all there is to it

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

Where is the logic, when you suggest they had an engine that .... did not run in hardware ?

As for developers .... exclusive on PS3 ones .... suggesting PS3 will be better in 1-2 years, i will just not take their word for anything

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.tricyclon123

Their engine was not good enough = PS3 weak?

Wait, this is good news, they are 90% near the trailer quality, given how much time they still have left before the release I don't see why they couldn't take it all the way.

Too much damage control in this thread ....

If PS3 was the god like machine they promised, and any of those pics of games was real, now they would not have to excuse themselves, right ?

But fact is not one game on PS3 did not get the downgrade, seems like EVERY DEVELOPER overestimated what PS3 can do, so that is why all first pics - videos of games are 100% fakes

You have NO CLUE man, engines run off HARDWARE, they are not an idea, it is an implementation, they used a super pc for the first pics, but turned PS3 is far far weaker, that is all there is to it

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

Where is the logic, when you suggest they had an engine that .... did not run in hardware ?

As for developers .... exclusive on PS3 ones .... suggesting PS3 will be better in 1-2 years, i will just not take their word for anything

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.tricyclon123

Their engine was not good enough = PS3 weak?

Wait, this is good news, they are 90% near the trailer quality, given how much time they still have left before the release I don't see why they couldn't take it all the way.

Too much damage control in this thread ....

If PS3 was the god like machine they promised, and any of those pics of games was real, now they would not have to excuse themselves, right ?

But fact is not one game on PS3 did not get the downgrade, seems like EVERY DEVELOPER overestimated what PS3 can do, so that is why all first pics - videos of games are 100% fakes

You have NO CLUE man, engines run off HARDWARE, they are not an idea, it is an implementation, they used a super pc for the first pics, but turned PS3 is far far weaker, that is all there is to it

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

Where is the logic, when you suggest they had an engine that .... did not run in hardware ?

As for developers .... exclusive on PS3 ones .... suggesting PS3 will be better in 1-2 years, i will just not take their word for anything

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

[QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.reilo

Their engine was not good enough = PS3 weak?

Wait, this is good news, they are 90% near the trailer quality, given how much time they still have left before the release I don't see why they couldn't take it all the way.

Too much damage control in this thread ....

If PS3 was the god like machine they promised, and any of those pics of games was real, now they would not have to excuse themselves, right ?

But fact is not one game on PS3 did not get the downgrade, seems like EVERY DEVELOPER overestimated what PS3 can do, so that is why all first pics - videos of games are 100% fakes

You have NO CLUE man, engines run off HARDWARE, they are not an idea, it is an implementation, they used a super pc for the first pics, but turned PS3 is far far weaker, that is all there is to it

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

Where is the logic, when you suggest they had an engine that .... did not run in hardware ?

As for developers .... exclusive on PS3 ones .... suggesting PS3 will be better in 1-2 years, i will just not take their word for anything

Beeing a PS3 developer makes you a bit ... biased, right ?

[QUOTE="reilo"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.tricyclon123

Their engine was not good enough = PS3 weak?

Wait, this is good news, they are 90% near the trailer quality, given how much time they still have left before the release I don't see why they couldn't take it all the way.

Too much damage control in this thread ....

If PS3 was the god like machine they promised, and any of those pics of games was real, now they would not have to excuse themselves, right ?

But fact is not one game on PS3 did not get the downgrade, seems like EVERY DEVELOPER overestimated what PS3 can do, so that is why all first pics - videos of games are 100% fakes

You have NO CLUE man, engines run off HARDWARE, they are not an idea, it is an implementation, they used a super pc for the first pics, but turned PS3 is far far weaker, that is all there is to it

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

Where is the logic, when you suggest they had an engine that .... did not run in hardware ?

As for developers .... exclusive on PS3 ones .... suggesting PS3 will be better in 1-2 years, i will just not take their word for anything

Beeing a PS3 developer makes you a bit ... biased, right ?

[QUOTE="reilo"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.tricyclon123

Their engine was not good enough = PS3 weak?

Wait, this is good news, they are 90% near the trailer quality, given how much time they still have left before the release I don't see why they couldn't take it all the way.

Too much damage control in this thread ....

If PS3 was the god like machine they promised, and any of those pics of games was real, now they would not have to excuse themselves, right ?

But fact is not one game on PS3 did not get the downgrade, seems like EVERY DEVELOPER overestimated what PS3 can do, so that is why all first pics - videos of games are 100% fakes

You have NO CLUE man, engines run off HARDWARE, they are not an idea, it is an implementation, they used a super pc for the first pics, but turned PS3 is far far weaker, that is all there is to it

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

Where is the logic, when you suggest they had an engine that .... did not run in hardware ?

As for developers .... exclusive on PS3 ones .... suggesting PS3 will be better in 1-2 years, i will just not take their word for anything

Beeing a PS3 developer makes you a bit ... biased, right ?

[QUOTE="Doomshine"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

Ibacai

Is that you again nasos?

some guy named named nasos_333 said this in that teamxbox thread:

"It is VERY MUCH downgraded, not 10%, like 40%"

Why did he get banned for.

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Doomshine"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

Rip870

Is that you again nasos?

some guy named named nasos_333 said this in that teamxbox thread:

"It is VERY MUCH downgraded, not 10%, like 40%"

Why did he get banned for.

Looks 90% as good as the CGI? Give me a break. Same Dev spin as Motorstorm.

Look at all the missing items and everything else. It's more then there engine. It's the PS3. Weather it be the lack of RAM or is graphics rendering ability.

Looks more like 40% to me.

[QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.reilo

Their engine was not good enough = PS3 weak?

Wait, this is good news, they are 90% near the trailer quality, given how much time they still have left before the release I don't see why they couldn't take it all the way.

Too much damage control in this thread ....

If PS3 was the god like machine they promised, and any of those pics of games was real, now they would not have to excuse themselves, right ?

But fact is not one game on PS3 did not get the downgrade, seems like EVERY DEVELOPER overestimated what PS3 can do, so that is why all first pics - videos of games are 100% fakes

You have NO CLUE man, engines run off HARDWARE, they are not an idea, it is an implementation, they used a super pc for the first pics, but turned PS3 is far far weaker, that is all there is to it

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

Where is the logic, when you suggest they had an engine that .... did not run in hardware ?

As for developers .... exclusive on PS3 ones .... suggesting PS3 will be better in 1-2 years, i will just not take their word for anything

90% to the CGI? Give me a break. Same Dev spin as Motorstorm.

Look at all the missing items and everything else. It's more then there engine. It's the PS3. Weather it be the lack of RAM or is graphics rendering ability.

Looks more like 40% to me.

Truth_Hurts_U

[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

90% to the CGI? Give me a break. Same Dev spin as Motorstorm.

Look at all the missing items and everything else. It's more then there engine. It's the PS3. Weather it be the lack of RAM or is graphics rendering ability.

Looks more like 40% to me.

ragrdoll21

[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

90% to the CGI? Give me a break. Same Dev spin as Motorstorm.

Look at all the missing items and everything else. It's more then there engine. It's the PS3. Weather it be the lack of RAM or is graphics rendering ability.

Looks more like 40% to me.

rockstar183

[QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

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That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.Ibacai

Their engine was not good enough = PS3 weak?

Wait, this is good news, they are 90% near the trailer quality, given how much time they still have left before the release I don't see why they couldn't take it all the way.

Too much damage control in this thread ....

If PS3 was the god like machine they promised, and any of those pics of games was real, now they would not have to excuse themselves, right ?

But fact is not one game on PS3 did not get the downgrade, seems like EVERY DEVELOPER overestimated what PS3 can do, so that is why all first pics - videos of games are 100% fakes

You have NO CLUE man, engines run off HARDWARE, they are not an idea, it is an implementation, they used a super pc for the first pics, but turned PS3 is far far weaker, that is all there is to it

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

Where is the logic, when you suggest they had an engine that .... did not run in hardware ?

As for developers .... exclusive on PS3 ones .... suggesting PS3 will be better in 1-2 years, i will just not take their word for anything

next time you post something make sure you know what you are talkinb about ok, stop tryna be so quick to bash the ps3 with logic that you dont understand, go learn the meaning of all the technical wors your used your your post then come back here... darn fanboy

[QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]

90% to the CGI? Give me a break. Same Dev spin as Motorstorm.

Look at all the missing items and everything else. It's more then there engine. It's the PS3. Weather it be the lack of RAM or is graphics rendering ability.

Looks more like 40% to me.

ragrdoll21

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.tricyclon123

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.tricyclon123

Their engine was not good enough = PS3 weak?

Wait, this is good news, they are 90% near the trailer quality, given how much time they still have left before the release I don't see why they couldn't take it all the way.

Too much damage control in this thread ....

If PS3 was the god like machine they promised, and any of those pics of games was real, now they would not have to excuse themselves, right ?

But fact is not one game on PS3 did not get the downgrade, seems like EVERY DEVELOPER overestimated what PS3 can do, so that is why all first pics - videos of games are 100% fakes

You have NO CLUE man, engines run off HARDWARE, they are not an idea, it is an implementation, they used a super pc for the first pics, but turned PS3 is far far weaker, that is all there is to it

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

[QUOTE="Doomshine"]

Is that you again nasos?

some guy named named nasos_333 said this in that teamxbox thread:

"It is VERY MUCH downgraded, not 10%, like 40%"


Ibacai

Beeing a PS3 developer makes you a bit ... biased, right ?

tricyclon123

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.tricyclon123

Thanks for that afternoon laugh........lol

[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"][QUOTE="OXIIIIXO"][QUOTE="tricyclon123"]

I did not see that coming to be frank, but after the HUGE downgrade, they had to say something i suppose

http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=509144

http://playstar.cinebb.com/Dossiers-f4/Rencontre-avec-Christophe-Balestra-de-Naughty-Dog-t210.htm

Ok guys, here is a translation:
The E3 teaser wasn't realtime apparently, but was using the assets and shaders of the game at that time, but the engine wasn't good enough. Today they have it running at 30 fps, and they are very near the trailer quality, about 90% of it (litteraly says it's missing 10%), because the shaders have been downgraded a bit because they aimed too high at first.

It also mentions they are using Nvidia's CG, but also some new library that has not been made available to third party devs yet.

....

That article is 100% legit. Believe it or not it's your problem, but the author is well known here in France, and the event itself happened for sure.tricyclon123

Their engine was not good enough = PS3 weak?

Wait, this is good news, they are 90% near the trailer quality, given how much time they still have left before the release I don't see why they couldn't take it all the way.

Too much damage control in this thread ....

If PS3 was the god like machine they promised, and any of those pics of games was real, now they would not have to excuse themselves, right ?

But fact is not one game on PS3 did not get the downgrade, seems like EVERY DEVELOPER overestimated what PS3 can do, so that is why all first pics - videos of games are 100% fakes

You have NO CLUE man, engines run off HARDWARE, they are not an idea, it is an implementation, they used a super pc for the first pics, but turned PS3 is far far weaker, that is all there is to it

As for the .. 90% figure, they are the devlopers, they would make THE best damage control possible, but fact is that it is more than 40% downgraded, lighting seems nowhere near, shaders too, AA too, how is all that ...10% ???

Where is the logic, when you suggest they had an engine that .... did not run in hardware ?

As for developers .... exclusive on PS3 ones .... suggesting PS3 will be better in 1-2 years, i will just not take their word for anything

Someone explain this to me:

If the engine was good enough to produce the original graphics (right pic), how is the ENGINE all of a sudden not good enough to do those same graphics again (left pic)? The only explanation is that the hardware they used originally was more powerfull than what they have now. If you took Gears of War and you tried to play it on a Playstation 1 it would look like crap not because the engine is bad, but because the hardware where it was transfered to was not as good as the development hardware (PC/xbox360).

I am not a computer guy, but I often read these posts on this site where people talk the talk yet nobody knows what the heck they are saying lol.

Someone explain this to me:

If the engine was good enough to produce the original graphics (right pic), how is the ENGINE all of a sudden not good enough to do those same graphics again (left pic)? The only explanation is that the hardware they used originally was more powerfull than what they have now. If you took Gears of War and you tried to play it on a Playstation 1 it would look like crap not because the engine is bad, but because the hardware where it was transfered to was not as good as the development hardware (PC/xbox360).

I am not a computer guy, but I often read these posts on this site where people talk the talk yet nobody knows what the heck they are saying lol.

dinb