ATI: Our new card is stronger than ALL consoles COMBINED!!!!

[QUOTE="jack_russel"]YES! Now hermits will finally be able to play crysis at medium settings! I kid because I love.lettuceman44

Oh, and consoles aren't soley for gaming either......what about the blu ray player lol.

check out the review of the 4870.

[QUOTE="lettuceman44"]

[QUOTE="jack_russel"]YES! Now hermits will finally be able to play crysis at medium settings! I kid because I love.jack_russel

Oh, and consoles aren't soley for gaming either......what about the blu ray player lol.

The internet is serious business, no joking allowed.

I'm skeptical. For openers, I've always got errors whenever I play low-end graphic requirement games such as The Sims 1 or 2 and the new Spore Creature Creator. The Sims is one of the biggest selling game franchises in the world & you would think that ATI would want their games to work with it. Likewise, I've always heard WoW having problems with ATI cards, & I wouldn't be surprised if other games share the same issue about ATI. Lastly, ATI Tech Support sucks. They don't give you much help other than asking you to reinstall everything & go open up a ticket with the game provider.

I switch over to an nVidia card, everything works! You don't have to call them with graphics or game loading issues.

So it could be a $200 card with a lot of baggage tied to it. It's not like I can call ATI & have them magically fix my game issues or send me a replacement that works 100%. The troubleshooting headaches aren't worth it. Same with AMD..awful Mobos and CPUs.

Thanks, but no thanks.

[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="lettuceman44"]

[QUOTE="jack_russel"]YES! Now hermits will finally be able to play crysis at medium settings! I kid because I love.Pro_wrestler

Oh, and consoles aren't soley for gaming either......what about the blu ray player lol.

The internet is serious business, no joking allowed.

wow, im suddenly glad i was unable to build my rig last christmas

now ill be able to buy one of these beauties over the 8800 gt

Question: (sorry, i cant edit posts for some reason)

is this thing more powerful then an 8800 gt?

or less

im going to assume less just because of how much cheaper it seems to be

That is a really ridiculous argument. When consoles go from one generation to the next, the newest generation is essentially stronger than every previous generation combined. The gamecube was essentially (give or take a few bits) more powerful than every previous Nintendo console combined. It's a ridiculous argument especially since PC components are already far more powerful than console components. kevbo77

ehhh pc games are overrated........why is this in system wars anyway......the pc is not soley a gaming system.....if the pc is going to be consider a system then im going to start posting all cell phone games and chips and all that booboo here in system wars so someone make up a name for a cellphone fanboy.

fanboyiamnot

Haha, you missed this:

:cry:

Question: (sorry, i cant edit posts for some reason)

is this thing more powerful then an 8800 gt?

or less

im going to assume less just because of how much cheaper it seems to be

REforever101

The 4850 $199 of pure 1337ness

Its 10% faster than the 9800GTX

So its around 20-40% faster than the 8800gt

anandtech

Well unfortunately there is a point were technology cannot become more powerful. I just hope we hit full photo-realism before that happens. Moore's law shows that eventually transistors are becoming so small that it will be impossible to make them smaller. They will be the size of atoms. So there is a limit.

[QUOTE="jack_russel"][QUOTE="lettuceman44"]

[QUOTE="jack_russel"]YES! Now hermits will finally be able to play crysis at medium settings! I kid because I love.Pro_wrestler

Oh, and consoles aren't soley for gaming either......what about the blu ray player lol.

The internet is serious business, no joking allowed.

That made me :lol:

Question: (sorry, i cant edit posts for some reason)

is this thing more powerful then an 8800 gt?

or less

im going to assume less just because of how much cheaper it seems to be

REforever101

By the looks of it, looks like it's gonna be ages ahead of a 8800gt.

lawl @ amd. welcome to last years news. nvidia had all consoles beat with teh 8800gtx 2 times over. Lets hope amd's lates efforts come close to nvidia's 280gtx. From what noobs tell me, it lags behind 25% from nvidia's newest efforts. azell07

Yes nvidia has suprised all of us with their GT200 576mm2 GTX280 $649 is indeed pure awesomeness giving just 30% more performance than the $199 256mm2 4850

:roll:

[QUOTE="REforever101"]

Question: (sorry, i cant edit posts for some reason)

is this thing more powerful then an 8800 gt?

or less

im going to assume less just because of how much cheaper it seems to be

vash47

By the looks of it, looks like it's gonna be ages ahead of a 8800gt.

It does beat the 8800GT in every test that I saw and is priced similarly. Can only get better from here, me thinks the tests were done using beta drivers.

[QUOTE="REforever101"]

Question: (sorry, i cant edit posts for some reason)

is this thing more powerful then an 8800 gt?

or less

im going to assume less just because of how much cheaper it seems to be

vash47

By the looks of it, looks like it's gonna be ages ahead of a 8800gt.

holy hell

people weren't kidding when they said pc stuff changes quickly. hell, just last christmas everyone seemed to be saying that the 8800 gt was the way to go. now it seems like the 8800 has been left in the dust already. even the price has dropped by about $150 from its price in january

I'm guessing this is what the next generation consoles will look like in a few years. Elviathan

Why do people keep posting this comment. By the time the nex gen consoles arrive, this card will be less than $50.

Benchmarks:

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=579

http://xtreview.com/addcomment-id-5603-view-Radeon-HD-4850-benchmarks.html

Well unfortunately there is a point were technology cannot become more powerful. I just hope we hit full photo-realism before that happens. Moore's law shows that eventually transistors are becoming so small that it will be impossible to make them smaller. They will be the size of atoms. So there is a limit.

BatmanBegins24

guys, high-end graphics aren't everything ya know:?C_BozkurT_C

[QUOTE="azell07"]lawl @ amd. welcome to last years news. nvidia had all consoles beat with teh 8800gtx 2 times over. Lets hope amd's lates efforts come close to nvidia's 280gtx. From what noobs tell me, it lags behind 25% from nvidia's newest efforts. wklzip

Yes nvidia has suprised all of us with their GT200 576mm2 GTX280 $649 is indeed pure awesomeness giving just 30% more performance than the $199 256mm2 4850

:roll:

I was talking about teh ATI Radeon 4870 HD X2 (R700XT). Insted of focusing on beating consoles, they should get their fat heads out of their booty and make a real gpu. hmm lol... thought everyone knew their hardware. I mean, you cant really comapre a 4850 to a 280gtx. they do the same, but one is a mclaren f1 and teh other one is a bmw m3. my bad.

[QUOTE="BatmanBegins24"]

Well unfortunately there is a point were technology cannot become more powerful. I just hope we hit full photo-realism before that happens. Moore's law shows that eventually transistors are becoming so small that it will be impossible to make them smaller. They will be the size of atoms. So there is a limit.

Dreams-Visions

Yes, but we could reach the limit in 10 to 20 years. While we still are seeing no strides in organic computing.

[QUOTE="Elviathan"]I'm guessing this is what the next generation consoles will look like in a few years. slickchris7777

Why do people keep posting this comment. By the time the nex gen consoles arrive, this card will be less than $50.

By the time this card is $50, games will be so advance that the point of the card is useless. Thats why we don't see GPUs such as a 7950GT still in retail, obso1337.

[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"]guys, high-end graphics aren't everything ya know:?jack_russel

Of course dude, you ever heard of 2560x1600 or 32xaa.

I was talking about teh ATI Radeon 4870 HD X2 (R700XT). Insted of focusing on beating consoles, they should get their fat heads out of their booty and make a real gpu.

azell07

the crappy 3870 already gave 2x the performance of a normal xbox 360. :/

Two 4850 in crossfire already beat by a small margin the GTX280 5-10%.

The R700 should beat the GTX280 by around 30% and less price.

But expect nvidia to counter the R700 with the GT200b.

(Real Time graphics)

Painballz

sweet jesus that looks amazing

Yes, but we could reach the limit in 10 to 20 years. While we still are seeing no strides in organic computing.

BatmanBegins24

[QUOTE="Painballz"]

(Real Time graphics)

LA_CA

sweet jesus that looks amazing

Oh yes it does :)

As a hermit I've got to say: Who cares?

Developers wont develope for that card just like they don't develope for quad core processors. Sure you will be able run with supermax settings, but the core of the game will not be molded for high end users. As always, games will be built around the mid line users and be expandable for the high end users.

EDIT: Furthermore the problem with the PC has always been that hardware is non standard, and the lowest denominator must always be considered. This has always been an arena in which consoles have had an advantage because developers only need to design for one, or a couple pieces of hardware that do not vary significantly. This is also the reason why this card is not significant when it comes to game development 'yet'.

It has been true since the consoles were released that a tricked out PC would easily outdue them, but not nearly enough of the PC gaming population has the higher end brand new hardware.

(Real Time graphics)

Chip maker AMD has invested heavily into hyperbole research, proudly proclaiming that its new graphics chip, the RV770, is "more powerful than every generation of video game console ever brought to market combined." The RV770, demoed Monday, is capable of processing one trillion floating operations per second on a single chip, a feat that AMD says "punches a sizeable hole in the sensory barrier."

Consoles are so far behind PC, its not even funny.

2009 will be the year where PC owns so hard like it did from the 90's to year 2006.

Dev's will see the light and come back to PC with big games

These ATI Cards start at $199 (So the price argument won't work)

The 4850 is already out.... http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Description=4850&x=0&y=0

The 4870 is coming out soon, and will be priced at $250

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT37b2QjkZc

Painballz

That doesn't impress me in the least bit. Since the Cell is the best.

As a hermit I've got to say: Who cares?

Developers wont develope for that card just like they don't develope for quad core processors. Sure you will be able run with supermax settings, but the core of the game will not be molded for high end users. As always, games will be built around the mid line users and be expandable for the high end users.

Zombie2k

Don't be stupid, this IS the midrange card, like the HD 3850 or the 8600gt or the 9600gt or the 7600gt or the radeon x1800 were midrange cards.

That doesn't impress me in the least bit. Since the Cell is the best.

nVidiaGaMer

Dont expect that much from the cell

[QUOTE="Zombie2k"]

As a hermit I've got to say: Who cares?

Developers wont develope for that card just like they don't develope for quad core processors. Sure you will be able run with supermax settings, but the core of the game will not be molded for high end users. As always, games will be built around the mid line users and be expandable for the high end users.

Wartzay

Don't be stupid, this IS the midrange card, like the HD 3850 or the 8600gt or the 9600gt or the 7600gt or the radeon x1800 were midrange cards.

The Radeon X1800 ATI series was once high end and it competed with the 7800 nVidia series.

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

That doesn't impress me in the least bit. Since the Cell is the best.

wklzip

Dont expect that much from the cell

he got owned.

[QUOTE="wklzip"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

That doesn't impress me in the least bit. Since the Cell is the best.

Pro_wrestler

Dont expect that much from the cell

he got owned.

Fake chart. Nice try though. The Cell is the most powerful.

[QUOTE="Zombie2k"]

As a hermit I've got to say: Who cares?

Developers wont develope for that card just like they don't develope for quad core processors. Sure you will be able run with supermax settings, but the core of the game will not be molded for high end users. As always, games will be built around the mid line users and be expandable for the high end users.

Wartzay

Don't be stupid, this IS the midrange card, like the HD 3850 or the 8600gt or the 9600gt or the 7600gt or the radeon x1800 were midrange cards.

Uh. No. Those cards may have been self described mid range cards, but they are NOT the only cards the consumer owns. It should also be noted that in PC gaming, much more than a video card is mandatory. Furthermore, if you look at the link provided its easy to see that the majority of people do not break 2gb RAM and do not break 3ghz of processing power nor do the majority have more than one core on their CPUs.

http://www.steampowered.com/status/survey.html

This card will not have the impact some here want to pretend.

Forgot to mention that screen shot is powered by two of those cards, so to get graphics like that will cost $500, then you're going to need the other parts.

Yup, price still an issue.

You still at it Painball?

I can't wait but I sure hope they get good games to back it up

Forgot to mention that screen shot is powered by two of those cards, so to get graphics like that will cost $500, then you're going to need the other parts.

Yup, price still an issue.

Sooshy

Price, power comsumption, and heat output have always been problems with high end cards and they will be if the trend continues.

[QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"][QUOTE="wklzip"][QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

That doesn't impress me in the least bit. Since the Cell is the best.

nVidiaGaMer

Dont expect that much from the cell

he got owned.

Fake chart. Nice try though. The Cell is the most powerful.

Are you sure? link

whatever hermits can have all their fun for a couple of years until the Next generation consoles comes out and smacks around some pc's. pc hardware is almost always inferier to new consoles for a little but eventually overtake again. dont be surprised to see 3 of those cards inside Xbox 360 IINameless-Hero

What makes you think PS4/Xbox 3 will be power houses, when they see Nintendo make a fortune off cheaper hardware.

Companies want to make money, not lose it.