ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT owns all console

From looking at Crysis, which already looks significantly better than anything on the new consoles, it seems that PCs are moving ahead of consoles faster than they did in the past. Would that be true?

too bad it's benches flopped harding than even I could ever imagine

I get better framerate in evey game with my current GPU :D 

From looking at Crysis, which already looks significantly better than anything on the new consoles, it seems that PCs are moving ahead of consoles faster than they did in the past. Would that be true?

tubbyc

Yes, but I recon, next-gen the gap between PC and Console will be the closest its been ever when PS4 or X720(Xbox 3) release.

The Readeon X2900XTX with its 700 Million transistors and 512Gflops owns any SLi & Crossfire setup with any card.Pro_wrestler

how can you say this when you haven't seen it's real world performance 

So this thing outperforms the Wiimote as well?

Wow... graphics card aren't just graphics cards anymore huh. 

DENIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS OWNS IT:

Ryder004

No thanks that card will only be good for a handfull of games and I'd rather play on my 61" HDTV then my 24" monitor anydayNugtoka

[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="lonsy02"]2 bad consoles have better games lonsy02

sport games ftw lol

[QUOTE="muscleserge"]my 600mhz 7900GT owns all console, the HD 2900XT owns them 4 times over.Innovazero2000

 Actually if I recall the 7900GT is in the same league as the 1800 XT, Xenos in the 360 in terms of shader power is straddled right between a 1800XT and 1900XT. So it don't own nothin =P

Now these newer beasts, well duh...they are the price of the entire consoles themselves. These DX10 cards are no joke.

if you didn't know ati said it is around the power of a x850xt with sm3 and unified shaders.  if its the power of a x1800 how come the x1800 own the 360 inevery game to date?  m$ has really brainwahsed the lems if you thing ati's last gen highend card is only as powerful as x360.

[QUOTE="Makari"][QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

[QUOTE="muscleserge"]my 600mhz 7900GT owns all console, the HD 2900XT owns them 4 times over.muscleserge

Actually if I recall the 7900GT is in the same league as the 1800 XT, Xenos in the 360 in terms of shader power is straddled right between a 1800XT and 1900XT. So it don't own nothin =P

Now these newer beasts, well duh...they are the price of the entire consoles themselves. These DX10 cards are no joke.

and my less powerful card can run 1280x1024 on ultra high with 16x af with hdr

That fan on that card screams breakage to me.

Could you imagine trying to clean the heat sinks on the card... You would have to some how pop that plastic cover off.

I can't wait to see 2900xtx2 vs 8950 gx2, battle of the super cards. Yea Ati copy Duel cards like they did with Sli, thanks to Nvidia we have duel cards and Sli, better for us consumers though.darkmanure

[QUOTE="lonsy02"]

[QUOTE="cobrax75"][QUOTE="lonsy02"]2 bad consoles have better games trix5817

Yeah, so? RTS is my favorite genre. More fun for me! Oh, and STALKER is an AMAZING FPS. Definently a classic.

Stalker is good but its glitchy as hell.  Its definitely not a classic too. 

Mmm...sexy.

I want it. :(

about teh 7900GT......

i have a 7900GT KO 512MB...........and it does NOT own a 360.  for some games it does come close to it though.  but games that look like gears of war......would make my card cry.

ill have to invest in a DX10 card before the end of the year. this could be it. :)

I might have to use this card as the base of my holiday '07 system.

I was planning to make my pc last for 3 years,but seeing as it wasn't exactly a beast when i bought it i'll make an exemption :P. 

about teh 7900GT......

i have a 7900GT KO 512MB...........and it does NOT own a 360. for some games it does come close to it though. but games that look like gears of war......would make my card cry.

ill have to invest in a DX10 card before the end of the year. this could be it. :)

lespaul1919

about teh 7900GT......

 

i have a 7900GT KO 512MB...........and it does NOT own a 360. for some games it does come close to it though. but games that look like gears of war......would make my card cry.

ill have to invest in a DX10 card before the end of the year. this could be it. :)

lespaul1919

thats not true at all.

a 7900GT will run any game maxed out....including Oblivion which looks far better on the PC....

once GEOW does come to PC's that card will run it without a problem. 

Isn't it common knowledge that all dx10 cards will outperform consoles? We already accepted this with the 8800, and this card is even more powerful.

 

Yes, they wipe the floor with the much older and less expensive console cards, still, how is this ownage? It is to be expected.

Still, the thing is amazing. How long is it supposed to be before a mid-priced dx10 card comes out?

 

Fry-o-fish

 They're already out and they suck. The  GeForce 8600GTS can't even outperform the Radeon x1950pro at any DX9 application, and likely lacks the power for proper DX10 games in the same way that a card like the Radeon x1650, while capable of HDR, isn't powerful enough to use it.

 Wait six months to a year and you'll have the price drops or the more powerful $200 type "upper midrange" cards.

 This doesn't "own" console though - you're not playing GeoW, Halo 3, MGS4, FF XIII, Mario Galaxies, Twilight Princess, et cetera on a PC. It just means better graphics for PC gamers who can afford it (which most can't) on upcoming games, in the same way that a new console means better graphics for console fans.

http://www.dailytech.com/ATI%20Radeon%20HD%202900%20XT%20Performance%20Benchmarks/article7043.htmAnd it has an awesome sound card. Damn that thing is massive! NobuoMusicMaker

[QUOTE="Fry-o-fish"]

Isn't it common knowledge that all dx10 cards will outperform consoles? We already accepted this with the 8800, and this card is even more powerful.

 

Yes, they wipe the floor with the much older and less expensive console cards, still, how is this ownage? It is to be expected.

Still, the thing is amazing. How long is it supposed to be before a mid-priced dx10 card comes out?

 

subrosian

 They're already out and they suck. The  GeForce 8600GTS can't even outperform the Radeon x1950pro at any DX9 application, and likely lacks the power for proper DX10 games in the same way that a card like the Radeon x1650, while capable of HDR, isn't powerful enough to use it.

 Wait six months to a year and you'll have the price drops or the more powerful $200 type "upper midrange" cards.

 This doesn't "own" console though - you're not playing GeoW, Halo 3, MGS4, FF XIII, Mario Galaxies, Twilight Princess, et cetera on a PC. It just means better graphics for PC gamers who can afford it (which most can't) on upcoming games, in the same way that a new console means better graphics for console fans.

How much does it cost? probably as much if not more as a 360-Sora

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Fry-o-fish"]

Isn't it common knowledge that all dx10 cards will outperform consoles? We already accepted this with the 8800, and this card is even more powerful.

 

Yes, they wipe the floor with the much older and less expensive console cards, still, how is this ownage? It is to be expected.

Still, the thing is amazing. How long is it supposed to be before a mid-priced dx10 card comes out?

 

Vandalvideo

They're already out and they suck. The GeForce 8600GTS can't even outperform the Radeon x1950pro at any DX9 application, and likely lacks the power for proper DX10 games in the same way that a card like the Radeon x1650, while capable of HDR, isn't powerful enough to use it.

Wait six months to a year and you'll have the price drops or the more powerful $200 type "upper midrange" cards.

This doesn't "own" console though - you're not playing GeoW, Halo 3, MGS4, FF XIII, Mario Galaxies, Twilight Princess, et cetera on a PC. It just means better graphics for PC gamers who can afford it (which most can't) on upcoming games, in the same way that a new console means better graphics for console fans.

Vandal - there are literally hundreds of games on each side of the equation. There are more than seven console games you won't be getting on PC, and more than seven PC games you won't be getting on a console. Frankly, I don't see how a graphics card "owns" consoles - it is about the games.

You yourself, on many occassions, argue that the PC is a superior platform, and that it is best because you don't need to upgrade until you want to (I disagree, but this is not the point) - so again, obviously the only reason you could argue for is games.

I don't see releasing a graphics card that costs more than the Xbox 360 and Wii as "ownage". I like seeing progress - hopefully there will be games that are just as creative as that card is powerful - I don't think the PC needs another RTS, FPS, MMORPG, or WRPG with updated graphics, which unfortunatley is what that hardware seems to be aimed at.

System wars - for people who are too poor to own all systemsdanielsmith2020

Actually, for some of us, it's where we mock everyone who is poor. 

[QUOTE="-Sora"]How much does it cost? probably as much if not more as a 360Vandalvideo

Yea, but RIGHT now its as much as a 360, im not talking about 2 months down the road

Subrosian: Please link me where I have EVER said the PC is a superior platform. I have never directly stated such. If that is what you get by me objectively portraying facts about the PC then all the better. The PC has the MOST high quality titles and announced exclusive titles. My last response was hyperbole, to show that while consoles do have good games, they simply don't have nearly as many as PCs.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Subrosian: Please link me where I have EVER said the PC is a superior platform. I have never directly stated such. If that is what you get by me objectively portraying facts about the PC then all the better. The PC has the MOST high quality titles and announced exclusive titles. My last response was hyperbole, to show that while consoles do have good games, they simply don't have nearly as many as PCs.subrosian

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Subrosian: Please link me where I have EVER said the PC is a superior platform. I have never directly stated such. If that is what you get by me objectively portraying facts about the PC then all the better. The PC has the MOST high quality titles and announced exclusive titles. My last response was hyperbole, to show that while consoles do have good games, they simply don't have nearly as many as PCs.Vandalvideo

For the price I shouldn't certainly hope it does.

(response based solely on thread title and my assumption about the price...)

No surprise that a PC graphics card is released within 6 months of the newest Next-Gen system going on sale that totally dominates graphically.  This happens all the time.  PC's always make several leaps over 5 years where as consoles usually make only one.

Nothing new here move along. ;)

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Subrosian: Please link me where I have EVER said the PC is a superior platform. I have never directly stated such. If that is what you get by me objectively portraying facts about the PC then all the better. The PC has the MOST high quality titles and announced exclusive titles. My last response was hyperbole, to show that while consoles do have good games, they simply don't have nearly as many as PCs.subrosian

For the price I shouldn't certainly hope it does.

(response based solely on thread title and my assumption about the price...)

No surprise that a PC graphics card is released within 6 months of the newest Next-Gen system going on sale that totally dominates graphically. This happens all the time. PC's always make several leaps over 5 years where as consoles usually make only one.

Nothing new here move along. ;)

Bgrngod

 18 months, not 6. The PS3 was intended for, and built using hardware from the same generation as, the same time period as the Xbox 360. It simply was delayed due to their own ineptitude in manufacturing the Blu-Ray diodes and "teh cell".

So in 18 months, the PC market has produced a graphics card that will produce better graphics than the Xbox 360, assuming you have a high-end processor, power supply, and enough RAM to match it.

Again, what does this have to do with "owning" consoles?

From looking at Crysis, which already looks significantly better than anything on the new consoles, it seems that PCs are moving ahead of consoles faster than they did in the past. Would that be true?

tubbyc

Yes, theres an article thats been posted numerous times here, "PC Gaming to Leapfrog Consoles with Directx10" which is completely true... and this is only the beggining. 

[QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

[QUOTE="muscleserge"]my 600mhz 7900GT owns all console, the HD 2900XT owns them 4 times over.imprezawrx500

Actually if I recall the 7900GT is in the same league as the 1800 XT, Xenos in the 360 in terms of shader power is straddled right between a 1800XT and 1900XT. So it don't own nothin =P

Now these newer beasts, well duh...they are the price of the entire consoles themselves. These DX10 cards are no joke.

if you didn't know ati said it is around the power of a x850xt with sm3 and unified shaders. if its the power of a x1800 how come the x1800 own the 360 inevery game to date? m$ has really brainwahsed the lems if you thing ati's last gen highend card is only as powerful as x360.

Correction, Mike Doggett of ATI (research team)Stated that Xenos was similar in performace to an 1800XT optimized for 720p resolution, but that Xenos had slightly more shader power/buffer bandwidth. He did state that at higher resolutions like say 1600x1200 or 1080p that 1800XT could very well outperform it...but we'll never know.

I'm not sitting here trying to say consoles are more powerful then top end PC's, they aren't....but they aren't given enough credit. Besides, there are games that look better then oblivion (which was a port in the first place) that were built for the console ground up.

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"][QUOTE="Innovazero2000"]

[QUOTE="muscleserge"]my 600mhz 7900GT owns all console, the HD 2900XT owns them 4 times over.Innovazero2000

Actually if I recall the 7900GT is in the same league as the 1800 XT, Xenos in the 360 in terms of shader power is straddled right between a 1800XT and 1900XT. So it don't own nothin =P

Now these newer beasts, well duh...they are the price of the entire consoles themselves. These DX10 cards are no joke.

if you didn't know ati said it is around the power of a x850xt with sm3 and unified shaders. if its the power of a x1800 how come the x1800 own the 360 inevery game to date? m$ has really brainwahsed the lems if you thing ati's last gen highend card is only as powerful as x360.

Correction, Mike Doggett of ATI (research team)Stated that Xenos was similar in performace to an 1800XT optimized for 720p resolution, but that Xenos had slightly more shader power/buffer bandwidth. He did state that at higher resolutions like say 1600x1200 or 1080p that 1800XT could very well outperform it...but we'll never know.

I'm not sitting here trying to say consoles are more powerful then top end PC's, they aren't....but they aren't given enough credit. Besides, there are games that look better then oblivion (which was a port in the first place) that were built for the console ground up.

[QUOTE="Bgrngod"]

For the price I shouldn't certainly hope it does.

(response based solely on thread title and my assumption about the price...)

No surprise that a PC graphics card is released within 6 months of the newest Next-Gen system going on sale that totally dominates graphically. This happens all the time. PC's always make several leaps over 5 years where as consoles usually make only one.

Nothing new here move along. ;)

subrosian

 18 months, not 6. The PS3 was intended for, and built using hardware from the same generation as, the same time period as the Xbox 360. It simply was delayed due to their own ineptitude in manufacturing the Blu-Ray diodes and "teh cell".

So in 18 months, the PC market has produced a graphics card that will produce better graphics than the Xbox 360, assuming you have a high-end processor, power supply, and enough RAM to match it.

Again, what does this have to do with "owning" consoles?

I think the "ownage" is that this graphics card will (hopefully) produce graphics above and beyond anything the PS3 or 360 can or will ever produce.

From a strictly graphics perspective (this is a thread about a graphics card) that would be "ownage".

No thanks that card will only be good for a handfull of games and I'd rather play on my 61" HDTV then my 24" monitor anydayNugtoka