ATi vs nVidia

What powers the graphics for Wii, Xbox 360 & PS3? Either an ATi or nVidia GPU.

Microsoft: ATi

Nintendo: ATi

Sony: nVidia

I think ATi are the real winners the gen for consoles, i know ppl bash ATi in favor of nVidia for pc graphics cards, but how many of these ppl own xbox 360's?

everyone knows 360 has the best GPU in a console, where as ps3 has the best CPU, but really when u play games im pretty sure the GRAPHICS processing unit has a larger factor than the cpu for games.

I know from experience: 3 years ago i had a top of the line 3.0Ghz Intel pentium 4 hyperthreading CPU and a weak official brand ATi x800 card which was a bit dated even then at the time, My friend had a single core 1.8Ghz amd processor but still managed to pull off oblivion smoothly on high settings because he had the latest nVidia Geforce card of the day, Howcome I was struggling on low/medium settings for oblivion while my friend with nearly half the cpu speed could pull off better quality and higher framerates? BECAUSE IT WAS THE GPU!

The GPU does processing independent of the processor as well, some believe it's th cpu crunching the numbers and the gpu just interpreting them, no, not at all, the cpu does send instructions for the gpu, but also crunches all the numbers and processes a vast amount of the processing for 3d applications.

I'd have a better gpu than cpu any day.

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Bubblehash

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Bubblehash

oh dear... yet another person who has never played mass-effect or lost odessy...

Nvidia is currently dominating the PC market, and its latest drivers with PhysX are very interesting.skrat_01

Isn't ATI actually doing better right now?

[QUOTE="Bubblehash"]

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thegoldenpoo

oh dear... yet another person who has never played mass-effect or lost odessy...

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Nvidia is currently dominating the PC market, and its latest drivers with PhysX are very interesting.Evz0rz

Isn't ATI actually doing better right now?

No, ATI has the best card and prices as of a week or two ago, but Nvidia has more markey share. I can't wait till Intel releases Larabee, then the GPU market will get interesting.

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"]

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Bubblehash

oh dear... yet another person who has never played mass-effect or lost odessy...

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"]

You type all that and I type just this. Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted say hello.

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Bubblehash

oh dear... yet another person who has never played mass-effect or lost odessy...

oh and BTW, R&C isn't actually that spectacular technically, again its due to the art stlye. i think it only looks about as good as TF2. so you are left with uncharted which ithink, again, is not that far ahead of all the other games.

[QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"]

You type all that and I type just this. Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted say hello.

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MojondeVACA

oh dear... yet another person who has never played mass-effect or lost odessy...

[QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"]

You type all that and I type just this. Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted say hello.

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thegoldenpoo

oh dear... yet another person who has never played mass-effect or lost odessy...

oh and BTW, R&C isn't actually that spectacular technically, again its due to the art stlye. i think it only looks about as good as TF2. so you are left with uncharted which ithink, again, is not that far ahead of all the other games.

Nvidia is currently dominating the PC market, and its latest drivers with PhysX are very interesting.skrat_01

ATI is making their comeback. At one point I thought that they would never recover. I hope the to companies can compete like they did around 2003-2004. Then we would all win.

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"]

You type all that and I type just this. Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted say hello.

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Bubblehash

oh dear... yet another person who has never played mass-effect or lost odessy...

You type all that and I type just this. Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted say hello.

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Bubblehash

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"]

You type all that and I type just this. Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted say hello.

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Bubblehash

oh dear... yet another person who has never played mass-effect or lost odessy...

oh and BTW, R&C isn't actually that spectacular technically, again its due to the art stlye. i think it only looks about as good as TF2. so you are left with uncharted which ithink, again, is not that far ahead of all the other games.

[QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]

oh dear... yet another person who has never played mass-effect or lost odessy...

MojondeVACA

PS3: The CellFart_Storm

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"]

You type all that and I type just this. Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted say hello.

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Bubblehash

oh dear... yet another person who has never played mass-effect or lost odessy...

oh and BTW, R&C isn't actually that spectacular technically, again its due to the art stlye. i think it only looks about as good as TF2. so you are left with uncharted which ithink, again, is not that far ahead of all the other games.

how am i being a fanboy? i just wasn't as bowled over by R&C than some were, what i meant to say is that for a cartoon stlye i prefer the way TF2 looks. all im trying to say is that nothing seperates the two systems

graphically at the moment Ps3 = X-Box 360, you may think otherwise but im not so sure many people who don't caount pixels will care about any difference you try to invent. overall they are almost identical, again look at the multiplats.

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]

oh dear... yet another person who has never played mass-effect or lost odessy...

Bubblehash

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"]
I wasn't passing my opinion as a fact n neither is yours, and R&C doesnt have open ended levels.
Bubblehash

[QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]

oh dear... yet another person who has never played mass-effect or lost odessy...

MojondeVACA

oh and BTW, R&C isn't actually that spectacular technically, again its due to the art stlye. i think it only looks about as good as TF2. so you are left with uncharted which ithink, again, is not that far ahead of all the other games.

Nvidia is currently dominating the PC market, and its latest drivers with PhysX are very interesting.skrat_01

[QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="MojondeVACA"]
I wasn't passing my opinion as a fact n neither is yours, and R&C doesnt have open ended levels.
MojondeVACA

If you think I am a fanboy, then you are clueless to the meaning. I don't pick sides, I pick games. The only reasons I don't own a 360 is because of RRoD and not enough games for me. I have a PS3 and PC (which is my main system), so with those two system, I already have excess to most of the 360 library. I don't have a wii because it is WAY to underpowered for my taste and most of it's games aren't the type of games I like. Funny how when somebody states the obvious and it isn't in favor of their console, the person just HAS to be a fanboy. :roll:Bubblehash

[QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="MojondeVACA"]

And whats your point Gears of war 2 looks better than those two games, let alone Banjo that has open ended levels not like the tiny corridor levels of rachet.
LibertySaint

[QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="MojondeVACA"][QUOTE="Bubblehash"][QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"]

once again, both platforms have argumably the best looking games, the fact there is disscorse show that it it very had to choose between them. especially when we see the consistant identciallitys of multiplats it becomes aparent the systems have equal graphical clout. again, games like mass effect (those charater models are just perfect) and even Gears eventhough it is now prett old, show that the 360 is more than capable of taking on the ps3 in the graphics department. we have yet to see a game on the ps3 that couyldn't be done on the 360

oh and BTW, R&C isn't actually that spectacular technically, again its due to the art stlye. i think it only looks about as good as TF2. so you are left with uncharted which ithink, again, is not that far ahead of all the other games.

MojondeVACA

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Nvidia is currently dominating the PC market, and its latest drivers with PhysX are very interesting.Evz0rz

Isn't ATI actually doing better right now?

Yup. nVidia underestimated ATI with the 4870. Would you buy an HD 4870 for $200 for 90% of the power of the GTX 280? Or $650 for 10% more power then the 4870? I know nVidia has brought down the prices (not nearly enough) of the GTX cards, but it just shows how serious of a competitor ATI is, and how nVidia grossly underestimated them.

nVidia FTW !!!!!!!!!!!!!angelkimne

NVIDIA FTL!!!!!!!!!

ATi and Nvidia go in cycles.

3 years ago ATI destroyed Nvidia so hardcore nobody thought they had a chance of surviving.

Fast forward to a year ago Nvidia was doing the decimating.

Now ATI looks to be coming on strong once again, with Nvidia not only having worse cards but far more driver issues and some severe die problems causing hundreds of millions in losses.

They go in cycles.

Consoles work a little differently than PCs, they are very similar in principle but still different. The 360 GPU is more powerful than the RSX but not by much, not enough to really call superior, it is like comparing x1800 vs 7800. Anyway the two consoles are pretty close this gen, last gen there was a much bigger rift with Xbox vs PS2.muscleserge

Nope... You are right on the RSX it is really close to a 7800 nvidia, but the 360 gpu is really close to a 1900xtx ati . This makes it significantly more powerfull, still the same ball park but undoubtly more powerfull...

ATi and Nvidia go in cycles.

3 years ago ATI destroyed Nvidia so hardcore nobody thought they had a chance of surviving.

Fast forward to a year ago Nvidia was doing the decimating.

Now ATI looks to be coming on strong once again, with Nvidia not only having worse cards but far more driver issues and some severe die problems causing hundreds of millions in losses.

They go in cycles.

Cali3350

What the hell are you talking about man?

ATI was ALWAYS 2nd place. Nvidia is and has been dominating the market since it's day-view.

When was the last time you saw a logo on a game that says "ATI the way it's meant to be"? And even today with ATI's supposed cost-worthy 4870, the card overheats, is a hog on power consumption and actually works slower in CFX compared to 2 "inferior" 260 GTX SLI.

[QUOTE="Cali3350"]

ATi and Nvidia go in cycles.

3 years ago ATI destroyed Nvidia so hardcore nobody thought they had a chance of surviving.

Fast forward to a year ago Nvidia was doing the decimating.

Now ATI looks to be coming on strong once again, with Nvidia not only having worse cards but far more driver issues and some severe die problems causing hundreds of millions in losses.

They go in cycles.

1xcalibur1

What the hell are you talking about man?

ATI was ALWAYS 2nd place. Nvidia is and has been dominating the market since it's day-view.

When was the last time you saw a logo on a game that says "ATI the way it's meant to be"? And even today with ATI's supposed cost-worthy 4870, the card overheats, is a hog on power consumption and actually works slower in CFX compared to 2 "inferior" 260 GTX SLI.

[QUOTE="1xcalibur1"][QUOTE="Cali3350"]

ATi and Nvidia go in cycles.

3 years ago ATI destroyed Nvidia so hardcore nobody thought they had a chance of surviving.

Fast forward to a year ago Nvidia was doing the decimating.

Now ATI looks to be coming on strong once again, with Nvidia not only having worse cards but far more driver issues and some severe die problems causing hundreds of millions in losses.

They go in cycles.

usule

What the hell are you talking about man?

ATI was ALWAYS 2nd place. Nvidia is and has been dominating the market since it's day-view.

When was the last time you saw a logo on a game that says "ATI the way it's meant to be"? And even today with ATI's supposed cost-worthy 4870, the card overheats, is a hog on power consumption and actually works slower in CFX compared to 2 "inferior" 260 GTX SLI.

When ATI starts having games with their names on it, call me.

NOT true... When the 1900 series came out they were the most powerfull gpu's...I remember because they were the only ones to play oblivion on high at descent frame rate...
usule

What powers the graphics for Wii, Xbox 360 & PS3? Either an ATi or nVidia GPU.

Microsoft: ATi

Nintendo: ATi

Sony: nVidia

I think ATi are the real winners the gen for consoles, i know ppl bash ATi in favor of nVidia for pc graphics cards, but how many of these ppl own xbox 360's?

everyone knows 360 has the best GPU in a console, where as ps3 has the best CPU, but really when u play games im pretty sure the GRAPHICS processing unit has a larger factor than the cpu for games.

I know from experience: 3 years ago i had a top of the line 3.0Ghz Intel pentium 4 hyperthreading CPU and a weak official brand ATi x800 card which was a bit dated even then at the time, My friend had a single core 1.8Ghz amd processor but still managed to pull off oblivion smoothly on high settings because he had the latest nVidia Geforce card of the day, Howcome I was struggling on low/medium settings for oblivion while my friend with nearly half the cpu speed could pull off better quality and higher framerates? BECAUSE IT WAS THE GPU!

The GPU does processing independent of the processor as well, some believe it's th cpu crunching the numbers and the gpu just interpreting them, no, not at all, the cpu does send instructions for the gpu, but also crunches all the numbers and processes a vast amount of the processing for 3d applications.

I'd have a better gpu than cpu any day.

7jack

ATi is on top right now...

[QUOTE="usule"][QUOTE="1xcalibur1"][QUOTE="Cali3350"]

ATi and Nvidia go in cycles.

3 years ago ATI destroyed Nvidia so hardcore nobody thought they had a chance of surviving.

Fast forward to a year ago Nvidia was doing the decimating.

Now ATI looks to be coming on strong once again, with Nvidia not only having worse cards but far more driver issues and some severe die problems causing hundreds of millions in losses.

They go in cycles.

1xcalibur1

What the hell are you talking about man?

ATI was ALWAYS 2nd place. Nvidia is and has been dominating the market since it's day-view.

When was the last time you saw a logo on a game that says "ATI the way it's meant to be"? And even today with ATI's supposed cost-worthy 4870, the card overheats, is a hog on power consumption and actually works slower in CFX compared to 2 "inferior" 260 GTX SLI.

When ATI starts having games with their names on it, call me.

Sad.

You type all that and I type just this. Ratchet & Clank and Uncharted say hello.

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Bubblehash

Gears 2 says hi also.

[QUOTE="usule"][QUOTE="1xcalibur1"][QUOTE="Cali3350"]

ATi and Nvidia go in cycles.

3 years ago ATI destroyed Nvidia so hardcore nobody thought they had a chance of surviving.

Fast forward to a year ago Nvidia was doing the decimating.

Now ATI looks to be coming on strong once again, with Nvidia not only having worse cards but far more driver issues and some severe die problems causing hundreds of millions in losses.

They go in cycles.

1xcalibur1

What the hell are you talking about man?

ATI was ALWAYS 2nd place. Nvidia is and has been dominating the market since it's day-view.

When was the last time you saw a logo on a game that says "ATI the way it's meant to be"? And even today with ATI's supposed cost-worthy 4870, the card overheats, is a hog on power consumption and actually works slower in CFX compared to 2 "inferior" 260 GTX SLI.

When ATI starts having games with their names on it, call me.

Wow...I guess there are some people that really believe everything a marketing ploy tells them to. IN REALITY, I have played many games that ran better on an ATI card, despite having the "Better on nVidia" logo on it. Don't always believe what you read.

Besides, nVidia's drivers suck. Always have, always will.