[QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"][QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="RurouniSaiyajin"] Gee, I wonder why no one is lining up. Oh! I know. There's a wonderful invention called the preorder! Let me clue you in on what it does because obviously, a lot of people around here don't know what it is apparently. A preorder guarantees your console on day one without having to line up. Can you believe that? It's phenomenal. Don't have to wait outside in the cold waiting for the store to open. Don't have to tolerate people randomly come by and laugh at you for camping out for a gaming system. Don't have to worry about people taking your picture and putting it all over the internet so that non gamers can laugh at you and think you're some sort of freak. Instead, just walk right in whenever you want to within the designated time frame they give you to retrieve your system, pay for it and leave whenever it is convenient to your schedule. It's an ingenious invention.
End point of this post, wait for actual releases of sales numbers. And enough with the "Well the 360 sold out on day one" and "Well the Wii sold out on day one". The number they brought to Europe on day one is far inferior compare to the number that is being brought by the PS3.
Really, is it so hard to ask for people to take 10 seconds to think about something logically?
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You make no sense really, because everyone who bought a Wii & XBox 360 in Europe at launch also had pre-orders, yet they didn't wait until the next day to get them. Some probably did, but many people lined up outside at midnight for the event. Even people who didn't have preorders lined up. Even though there will be no shortages for the PS3, hardcore gamers always lineup for the launch of a new system. Obviously many hardcore European gamers passed on the PS3 or else they would have been there at midnight.
Yes, we will wait for the actual release numbers so you can eat your words. Something else to look forward to in the near future.
Like I said in my previous post, none of the stores in question in the pictures look like they were doing midnight launches because all their lights are off. Also, the Wii and 360 launch were different in the sense that you didn't have to worry about being mugged or worse, which people should be scared about after the PS3 N.A. launch. After reading that drive by shooting in NYC, I wouldn't be eager to go line up outside a store either. I'm just glad I live in Canuck so I didn't have to worry about that at all.
And eat my words? Must you be a fanboy about this? It isn't going to bother me one way or another if the sales numbers were high or low because like a logical thinking person, I know a war isn't won or loss just because it didn't start off good.
Those retail stores weren't doing midnight launches because they didn't get many pre-orders. If there's no demand for the system, of course they aren't going to have a midnight launch for it. Obviously some of the stores felt they got enough pre-orders to open at midnight for the launch. Most gamers are worried about getting mugged during a game console launch, as many retail stores have security guards who will walk you to your car. NYC is a totally different animal. I don't think people would expect something like that to happen in Australia or U.K.
M$ had said the same thing "I know a war isn't won or loss just because it didn't start off good." during the Japan Xbox launches, so you do the math.
To say that there was no midnight launches because they didn't get many pre-orders is still too premature to say. All the preorders got filled down here where I am. Did any store have a midnight launch? No. Because it was too inconvenient for them to do and that's what they straight out told everyone in the line when they asked if they could just give us them at Midnight instead of waiting another 8 hours.
And as far as people expecting that to happen in Australia or U.K., well judge for yourself. I'd say the majority of the people that have been bashing the European PS3 Launch before any numbers were in based on lack of line ups can't tell the difference between the situation of the European Launch and the N.A./Japan Launches. There are a few people in this thread that can tell the difference like you but not many. Most people really can't distinguish their own culture from others too much, which can mostly be attributed to the fact that America is the center of the world's economy for now anyway. I doubt the "melting pot" effect is as bad as it is here in Canuck but still present in Europe nonetheless. For that reason, I wouldn't be surprised if they couldn't tell how much safer it is in their own community than it would be in NYC. And even then, if they can distinguish the difference there's still the personal debate within to decide whether its worth the wager after hearing such a story. Would you wager your life that you are right about something like that? That's the question they have to ask themselves. If they know their community well, they'll take the wager no problem because they know their community well. It's all about the seed of doubt and if people are strong enough to overcome it.
And that's an interesting quote but like I've said before in these forums, past experience can't predict the future. You let go of a rock in your hand, it falls to the ground but who knows? The next time you drop the rock it might float the ceiling. It's the most infamous logic/philosophy lesson. Just because you've seen the rock hit the ground 99 times out of a 100, doesn't mean you know for sure it'll hit the ground the 100th time you let go. And besides even now, the story isn't quite over for the 360 in Japan. Granted, they are down to their last card, Lost Odyssey, but who knows? Lost Odyssey might be a runaway hit in Japan. We can't know for sure until it's over and done with. And if it comes out and it flops, only then at that moment could you really say it flopped completely in Japan and that will have been about 2 years time since its initial launch, which is a reasonable time to say anything is over and done with.
Well, that's it for me with this thread now. It's a little pointless to talk about this until there are actual definitive numbers to say anything about. We both can only talk about opinion at this point. Thanks for the mostly civil conversation. For every civil conversation that is had, a topic is saved from complete pointlessness...Man, I sound like those donate to Third World Country commercials.
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