Bad company 2 vs Halo reach vs Black ops

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

You can dive now...

That's all I got.

Keiji993

That's the thing, there are no core gameplay improvements or even differences (minus diving). There are new modes, but the core of it is all the same.

And let's not bring speculation into this by mentioning KZ3. The videos introduced a new melee system (though I heard that was in KZ1 which I never played) and platforming, and it's still unclear how the game is going to control.

Bottom line...Everyone on my friends list that plays CoD games has either gone back to CoD 4 or they are now playing BC2. Black Ops at its core is nothing but MW 2 1.5. Im not a hater, Im just not a fanboy!!!

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="Keiji993"] That's your problem, your looking at what the game already has. The gameplay has so many improvements that add up to make it much better. I'm not going to try to explain anymore because you'll just ignore it. Go play MW2 then play Black Ops.Keiji993

Halo Reach: Sprint, jetpacks, assassinations, loadouts, reticule bloom.

CoD Black Ops: Diving

Again, not trashing defending either one. Speaking of which, does anyone remember if Modern Warfare 1 had hitscan or not? I don't remember but I think it didn't.

Treyarch added all these gimmicky game modes like Gun game, One in the chamber, etc which are ripped-off from Counter strike. Every year I want a change, not a polished version of Mw2.

[QUOTE="Keiji993"][QUOTE="campzor"] u've got nothing.... its the same gameplay with a tweak or two...IndianaPwns39

Halo Reach: Sprint, jetpacks, assassinations, loadouts, reticule bloom.

CoD Black Ops: Diving

Again, not trashing defending either one. Speaking of which, does anyone remember if Modern Warfare 1 had hitscan or not? I don't remember but I think it didn't.

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="Keiji993"] That's your problem, your looking at what the game already has. The gameplay has so many improvements that add up to make it much better. I'm not going to try to explain anymore because you'll just ignore it. Go play MW2 then play Black Ops.Keiji993

Except for the fact that each Halo plays drastically different.

If you think that all Halo games play the same you clearly haven't played any and you're just pulling things out of your ass.

[QUOTE="IndianaPwns39"]

[QUOTE="Keiji993"]. Lol now your trying to limit the improvements they made? :lol: you have nothing to say now. Halo only added 2 weapons and removed it and now has sprint, pathetic. Halo 1 to halo reach that's all they did?Keiji993

Halo Reach: Sprint, jetpacks, assassinations, loadouts, reticule bloom.

CoD Black Ops: Diving

Again, not trashing defending either one. Speaking of which, does anyone remember if Modern Warfare 1 had hitscan or not? I don't remember but I think it didn't.

Oh I'm not saying they have to. What I'm saying, is that the CoD gameplay changes that you keep mentioning aren't there. It's very much the same game and that's it identity. I prefer BFBC2 myself. I like vehicles, bullet drop, and destructible environments. If CoD included these things it would be more like BFBC2 and well, we already have that.

My argument isn't "zomg CoD never changes it sux!" my argument is that you keep saying there are core gameplay changes and there aren't.

You should also be informed there are loads of rumors of a futuristic CoD being developed so the jetpacks might happen anyway.

[QUOTE="Keiji993"] Wait so your telling me how COD need is to add jet packs, and future stuff to be alot better than MW2? Core gameplay improvements doesn't matter? Wow KZ3 is going to be by far the best shooter before it even releases. Stevo_the_gamer

Overpowered killstreaks??? CHECK

Poor hit detection??? CHECK

Corner camping??? CHECK

Crap-tastic spawns/spawn killing??? CHECK

Go back and play CoD 4 and then come back here and tell me that Black Ops is an evolution for the series!! I will personally play CoD 4 100 times over before I will put either MW 2 or Black Ops in my 360!!!

[QUOTE="Keiji993"][QUOTE="campzor"] u've got nothing.... its the same gameplay with a tweak or two...MobilechicaneX

Except for the fact that each Halo plays drastically different.

If you think that all Halo games play the same you clearly haven't played any and you're just pulling things out of your ass.

BO still got all of the crap from MW2 like poor hit detection, horrible spawns, horrible maps, camping, knife lungies like commando, 10th prestige lobbies(Now 15th prestige lobbies). How has it tbh improved? You can say it has improved alot but not as much as Keiji993 is saying.

[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

[QUOTE="Keiji993"]. Lol now your trying to limit the improvements they made? :lol: you have nothing to say now. Halo only added 2 weapons and removed it and now has sprint, pathetic. Halo 1 to halo reach that's all they did?Keiji993

Except for the fact that each Halo plays drastically different.

If you think that all Halo games play the same you clearly haven't played any and you're just pulling things out of your ass.

How can it be a step back?

Forge, Custom Games, Community support. I could go on.

Bump!

Keiji993, you have the worst grammar and spelling I have ever seen. Your right? Ermmm.....It's You're right. Educate yourself. Playing Black ops all the time and arguing like a moron won't help.

shahilsyed

[QUOTE="Keiji993"][QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

Except for the fact that each Halo plays drastically different.

If you think that all Halo games play the same you clearly haven't played any and you're just pulling things out of your ass.

MobilechicaneX

How can it be a step back?

Forge, Custom Games, Community support. I could go on.

[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

[QUOTE="Keiji993"] Your right, Halo 3 compared to Halo 1 is completely garbage :lol: How can the gameplay take a stepback like that?Keiji993

How can it be a step back?

Forge, Custom Games, Community support. I could go on.

Just to sum everything up: Black ops is same as MW2 in terms of gameplay.

Out of Mw2 and BO:

Campaign: MW2

Zombies or Spec Ops: Zombies

Multiplayer, which is more fun: MW2

Which is more balanced: BO

Overall: MW2

what does the ability to change the colour of ur reticule have to do with gameplay? nothing... besides 'diving' what gameplay element have they added into black ops?campzor

Just to sum everything up: Black ops is same as MW2 in terms of gameplay.

Out of Mw2 and BO:

Campaign: MW2

Zombies or Spec Ops: Zombies

Multiplayer, which is more fun: MW2

Which is more balanced: BO

Overall: MW2

shahilsyed

[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

[QUOTE="Keiji993"] Your right, Halo 3 compared to Halo 1 is completely garbage :lol: How can the gameplay take a stepback like that?Keiji993

How can it be a step back?

Forge, Custom Games, Community support. I could go on.

Forge and custom games do concern gameplay.

Duel wielding, power Ups, new vehicules, much better online play. I could still go on.

[QUOTE="shahilsyed"]

Just to sum everything up: Black ops is same as MW2 in terms of gameplay.

Out of Mw2 and BO:

Campaign: MW2

Zombies or Spec Ops: Zombies

Multiplayer, which is more fun: MW2

Which is more balanced: BO

Overall: MW2

Keiji993

LMAO! What?

Reach for me

It's all a question of which game got older fast for me, Bad Company lasted about 3 months, upgrading and unlocking new weapons kept it going for me, but after a while having only three modes and a few maps got old. Reach, well that got old before my 1 month Gold subscription ran out.

BC2 is winning!

[QUOTE="MobilechicaneX"]

[QUOTE="Keiji993"] Your right, Halo 3 compared to Halo 1 is completely garbage :lol: How can the gameplay take a stepback like that?Keiji993

How can it be a step back?

Forge, Custom Games, Community support. I could go on.

gameplay differences between halo 1 and 3:

equipment

dual-wielding

different health system

more game-mods

custom games

medals

new vehicles

melee weapons

plasma pistol is drastically changed and has an EMP burst

vehicle hijacking

MW2-BO:

knifing weapons(i think)

diving

BC 2 is the best competitive FPS playable this year.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Keiji993"] Wait so your telling me how COD need is to add jet packs, and future stuff to be alot better than MW2? Core gameplay improvements doesn't matter? Wow KZ3 is going to be by far the best shooter before it even releases. Keiji993

Out of those I like Blackops the most, and no its not the same as MW2, if you cant see the difference then you obviously haven't played the game enough. Though I did have more fun in the SP in Halo Reach, beat the sp campaign 3 times. Even though i was a little disappointed in the SP I still liked it better than Blackops.

I have enjoyed playing Reach the most. Not a big fan of BC but it's still fun to play.

Black Ops>Reach>>>Bad Company 2.

[QUOTE="gamedude234"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"]

Halo reach is out of question, even more full of fanboyism than black ops. BC2 is the only reasonable one here, has the best sound design (which might not seem like much but boiy, it adds to the experience), the more humorous story, way better multi-player.

IndianaPwns39

except it outscored BO and BFBC2 everywhere: also, the sound in reach is far superior to BFBC2. and it has far more replayability

How is the sound design in Reach far superior to BFBC2? I'll accept you're opinion that the sounds are better but far superior? The sound in BFBC2 is unmatched and amazing imo. Reach still sounds like you're firing toys, but whatever.

woops, i thought he meant soundtrack. my bad. anyway, i agree BFBC2s sound design is fantastic, and while reach's is far improved than halo 3's its not as good as BFBC2

Black ops is exactly same as Mw2, Fact.

BC2>Reach>BO

Black Ops>Reach>>>Bad Company 2.

psn8214

Sorry, but i think the majority of SW will agree with me when i say that BO is the weakest one.

Black Ops=Halo Reach>BC2

I can't pick between BO and Reach. Both good games. I never could enjoy Bad Company 2. The single player was boring and the MP isn't really for me. Well I love playing it with my friends but they stopped playing it and I rather not play with a team of wookies.

I have all 3...I win.

fun wise = reach. skill wise = reach. creativity wise = reach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXLWvRdxQTg

^my halo 1 remakes with some sick kills on them.

Black ops is exactly same as Mw2, Fact.

shahilsyed

[QUOTE="Kokuro_Kun"]I'm extremely happy with how much you guys like Battlefield. I was always a COD guy until my friend recomened me BFBC2. He's like you know those UAV's they have in COD? Yeah well in BFBC you can control the UAV, mark targets, and destroy tanks and buildings all while shooting your alt. machine gun attatchment if you like.... I was sold. I hope Halo dies, the game has showed little over the years, to me its living off how well the first two games were perceived. Dead-Memories

Halo Reach was great and one of my favorite games of 2010 but the crown goes to BFBC2. CODBO, the same stale gameplay we've been inundated with since '07 doesnt even stand a chance against MAG. Despite my initial gripes with the game, DICE managed to improve BFBC2 into near perfection. Now if only DICE could change the knife back into a wieldable weapon like it was in BC1 instead of the one button auto swing melee weapon we have now then BFBC2 would be MP FPS Perfection(at least on consoles).

Killzone destroys all 3 of those games in quality and graphics.HailCaesarHail