Baldur's Gate Story versus Metal Gear Solid Story.

Someone recently criticised me, saying that Baldur's Gate does not have a better storyline than Metal Gear Solid. I disagree.

Baldurs Gate has a great storyline, just enough plot twists to keep the sotry interesting, unparalleled writing, and great in-game humor which doesnt break the fourth wall.

Metal Gear in my opinion, has a silly contrived storyine, with too many plot twists, sillly fan-fiction elements like Cyborg Ninjas and its generally just tooover the top and unbelievable, which makes it weaker and more childish, when the story wants to seem like it adult.

Remember both of these games are supposed to have adult storylines....

In terms of narrative, what do you think has the best storyline?

Bit of a generalised question. IMO MGS2 brings the series average in storytelling down, and it depends if your comparing it against BG1 or BG2. I liked MGS3 much more than MGS2.

In generalistic terms, I'd say BG2 is one of the best stories in a game period. Banished elven tyrants and hampsters believed to be space gods? Hell yeah.

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MGS is convoluted nonsense for children. Baldurs Gate stories are much better

Metal Gear on this one.

Oh, come on. MGS4 is a great game, but as far as a story arc goes the Baldur's Gate series is way out of MG's league.

Its like comparing a limited-edition comic book series to Tolkien.

Baldur's Gate for the easy win here.

Baldur's Gate 2 had a good villain and two good party characters, Metal Gear Solid wins hands down. All the other BG stories weren't that good anyway (the 1st one and throne of Bhall)

I'm imagining reading the long expository monologues that exist in MGS4 as text in Baldur's Gate.

It's a funny image.

Metal gear's story is better than Baldur Gate because it doesn't go from good to crap, and then crap back to good.

I prefer a solid (no pun intended) storyline, so i'll go with Metal Gear. Though I still loved Baldur's gate alot.

Metal gear's story is better than Baldur Gate because it doesn't go from good to crap, and then crap back to good.

ChrnoTrigger

It doesn't? I thought Metal Gear Solid 2 was an abomination.

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

Metal gear's story is better than Baldur Gate because it doesn't go from good to crap, and then crap back to good.

Kez1984

It doesn't? I thought Metal Gear Solid 2 was an abomination.

Metal Gear Solid 2 was the best ;(

The only thing bad about it was Rosemary-Raiden

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

Metal gear's story is better than Baldur Gate because it doesn't go from good to crap, and then crap back to good.

Kez1984

It doesn't? I thought Metal Gear Solid 2 was an abomination.

But if you play MGS 4, it makes sense what happened in MGS 2.

To the TC.

Do you also like comparing apples to oranges?

(or romance to thriller, fantasy to sci-fi...like WTF?)

mgs by far, so what if there are cyborg ninjas in the game, its deeper than that, some people dont want to see games as they should be seen because the dont want to accept it as a good game (not just mgs)

Someone recently criticised me, saying that Baldur's Gate does not have a better storyline than Metal Gear Solid. I disagree.

Baldurs Gate has a great storyline, just enough plot twists to keep the sotry interesting, unparalleled writing, and great in-game humor which doesnt break the fourth wall.

Metal Gear in my opinion, has a silly contrived storyine, with too many plot twists, sillly fan-fiction elements like Cyborg Ninjas and its generally just tooover the top and unbelievable, which makes it weaker and more childish, when the story wants to seem like it adult.

Remember both of these games are supposed to have adult storylines....

In terms of narrative, what do you think has the best storyline?

ClawKiller

Baldurs Gate storyline is simply better in al lterms. There is no comparision, MGS4 gets slaughtered brutally. MSG4 storyline is like a Japanese 1 star movie, mixing all ingredients i na pot with a bad result. Goes from realistic to emotional to ridicolous.

Planescape: Torment > both :)AdrianWerner

MGS > Fallout > Planescape Torment:)

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Planescape: Torment > both :)bonethug1213

MGS > Fallout > Planescape Torment:)

[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

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MGS is convoluted nonsense for children. Baldurs Gate stories are much better

ClawKiller

Win.

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I cant believe MGS in winning....ClawKiller

Silly kids have never played with Infinity Engine games before. Their loss.

[QUOTE="ClawKiller"][QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

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MGS is convoluted nonsense for children. Baldurs Gate stories are much better

usmcjdk6

Win.

/thread

/THREAD, also the polls shows this place is infected with zombies

LOL HEY GUYS LETS COMPARE THE STORY OF CRYSIS WITH TIGER WOODS GOLF.....

TWO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GENRES...ONE FANTASY I.E. BADLURS GATE AND ONE MORE REALISTIC, POLITICS AND SUCH I.E. MGS4

superjim42

The fact that you used "realistic" and "MGS4" together in the same sentence pretty much disqualifies you from this conversation. Teh fail is yoos.

MGS because it has great, original characters and i love how kojima effortlessly links his fiction with real world events

like MGS3's ties to the Cold War and cuban missile crisis .. it adds a lot to the MGS games

Baldur's Gate has too much fantasy cliché

I cant believe MGS in winning....ClawKiller

As Tycho of Penny Arcade said:

"I actually like the story of Metal Gear, but it's not told well. I don't care if a cutscene is long provided that it's well paced, but these cutscenes aren't simply long, they're eternal - and they feel even longer than they are because they're pure overreach. The script is insipid, didactic, and its insights are trite. The humor doesn't work, period, and it works even less against the backdrop of perpetual war."

This is exactly how I feel.

MGS because it has great, original characters and i love how kojima effortlessly links his fiction with real world events

like MGS3's ties to the Cold War and cuban missile crisis .. it adds a lot to the MGS games

Baldur's Gate has too much fantasy cliché

akif22

/PHAIL

MGS because it has great, original characters and i love how kojima effortlessly links his fiction with real world events

like MGS3's ties to the Cold War and cuban missile crisis .. it adds a lot to the MGS games

Baldur's Gate has too much fantasy cliché

akif22

Are you joking?

And Metal Gear Solid has Cliche leaking out it's rear end. Kinda doubtfull you have even played any of the BG games.

[QUOTE="akif22"]

MGS because it has great, original characters and i love how kojima effortlessly links his fiction with real world events

like MGS3's ties to the Cold War and cuban missile crisis .. it adds a lot to the MGS games

Baldur's Gate has too much fantasy cliché

Kez1984

Are you joking?

Metal Gear Solid has Cliche leaking out it's rear end.

Hahaha. MGS jsut got owned.

Your initial post is a bit one sided. I don't know how you can say MGS is "childish" for it's unbelievable elements, then argue that a world set in Fantasy setting is more mature, even if the idea of realism is kind of out of the window, what with Elves, magic etc... Just seems a bit double standard

Personally, I would probably prefer MGS exprience, mainly because to me, it's more immersive down to its high production values, and obvious cinematic appeal.

I'm imagining reading the long expository monologues that exist in MGS4 as text in Baldur's Gate.

It's a funny image.

sonicmj1

That sounds horrifying. :(

[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

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MGS is convoluted nonsense for children. Baldurs Gate stories are much better

ClawKiller

Win.

^^^ People who have never played MGS.

[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="akif22"]

MGS because it has great, original characters and i love how kojima effortlessly links his fiction with real world events

like MGS3's ties to the Cold War and cuban missile crisis .. it adds a lot to the MGS games

Baldur's Gate has too much fantasy cliché

ClawKiller

Are you joking?

Metal Gear Solid has Cliche leaking out it's rear end.

Hahaha. MGS jsut got owned.

:| How can you say this when you don't know anything about the game?

[QUOTE="ClawKiller"][QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

rofl

MGS is convoluted nonsense for children. Baldurs Gate stories are much better

X_CAPCOM_X

Win.

^^^ People who have never played MGS.

Have you ever played Baldur's Gate?

[QUOTE="ClawKiller"][QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="akif22"]

MGS because it has great, original characters and i love how kojima effortlessly links his fiction with real world events

like MGS3's ties to the Cold War and cuban missile crisis .. it adds a lot to the MGS games

Baldur's Gate has too much fantasy cliché

X_CAPCOM_X

Are you joking?

Metal Gear Solid has Cliche leaking out it's rear end.

Hahaha. MGS jsut got owned.

:| How can you say this when you don't know anything about the game? Oh wait you have visual proof, my fault sry

FIXED

[QUOTE="ClawKiller"][QUOTE="vicmackey39"]

rofl

MGS is convoluted nonsense for children. Baldurs Gate stories are much better

X_CAPCOM_X

Win.

^^^ People who have never played MGS.