Baldur's Gate Story versus Metal Gear Solid Story.

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#101 st1ka
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Lol, Translation: "I couldn't follow the story"

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Why don't you break it down for us

i would specially like to hear his explanation of liquid´s arm on ocelot´s body

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#102 Zeliard9
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Baldur's Gate, and it's really not even close. A much better poll question would be between Baldur's Gate and Planescape: Torment, in which case it would be PT.
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#103 Baranga
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Haven't played much MGS, but there is one thing I'd like to say: Complex story does not necessarily equal good story.lillefix

Damn straight, son!

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#104 sonicmj1
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[QUOTE="TeamR"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Lol, Translation: "I couldn't follow the story"

st1ka

Why don't you break it down for us

i would specially like to hear his explanation of liquid´s arm on ocelot´s body

Arm transplant. That's totally possible, right?

Geez, keep up with medical science. :roll:

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#105 TeamR
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Anyone who has actually played both series knows that this poll is no contest. Not only does Baldur's Gate have one of the best stories in videogame history, it is also masterfully unfolded over 2 games, and two expansion packs. I've played my fair share of MGS, and while the overall story itself isnt bad, I just can't stand the way it is presented to the user.

Put it this way. If Baldur's Gate and Metal Gear were a series of books, I wouldn't be able to finish the metal gear series. On the other hand, i'd read a Baldur's Gate book about 20 times. easily

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#106 kage_53
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[QUOTE="st1ka"][QUOTE="TeamR"][QUOTE="Chutebox"]

Lol, Translation: "I couldn't follow the story"

sonicmj1

Why don't you break it down for us

i would specially like to hear his explanation of liquid´s arm on ocelot´s body

Arm transplant. That's totally possible, right?

Geez, keep up with medical science. :roll:

To be fair [spoiler] shortly before Big Shell Incident and after the Shadow Moses Incident Ocelot replaced iLiquids arm with a cybernatic arm. [/spoiler]

On topic after beating MGS4 I.... dont know what to make of the series story anymore.

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#107 butteater86
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Anyone who has actually played both series knows that this poll is no contest. Not only does Baldur's Gate have one of the best stories in videogame history, it is also masterfully unfolded over 2 games, and two expansion packs. I've played my fair share of MGS, and while the overall story itself isnt bad, I just can't stand the way it is presented to the user.

Put it this way. If Baldur's Gate and Metal Gear were a series of books, I wouldn't be able to finish the metal gear series. On the other hand, i'd read a Baldur's Gate book about 20 times. easily

TeamR

Yeah man, no one who has played both games could of possibly enjoyed MGS' story more...:roll:

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#108 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="TeamR"]

Anyone who has actually played both series knows that this poll is no contest. Not only does Baldur's Gate have one of the best stories in videogame history, it is also masterfully unfolded over 2 games, and two expansion packs. I've played my fair share of MGS, and while the overall story itself isnt bad, I just can't stand the way it is presented to the user.

Put it this way. If Baldur's Gate and Metal Gear were a series of books, I wouldn't be able to finish the metal gear series. On the other hand, i'd read a Baldur's Gate book about 20 times. easily

butteater86

Yeah man, no one who has played both games could of possibly enjoyed MGS' story more...:roll:

So you think that some people like the story of "The Matrix" over "Lord of the Rings"?

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#109 sullivan352
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

Metal gear's story is better than Baldur Gate because it doesn't go from good to crap, and then crap back to good.

thrones

It doesn't? I thought Metal Gear Solid 2 was an abomination.

Metal Gear Solid 2 was the best ;(

The only thing bad about it was Rosemary-Raiden

Agreed. and the part at the end where Cambell starts going crazy during codec is pretty freaky.

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#110 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]

It doesn't? I thought Metal Gear Solid 2 was an abomination.

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Metal Gear Solid 2 was the best ;(

The only thing bad about it was Rosemary-Raiden

Yeah, lol.

Kojima went UNDERGROUND when making MGS2. He missed everyday life, and Rose/Jack was actually symbolic of his wife calling at odd times during the development of MGS2, so he thought gamers would want to experience that.

I thought it wasn't too bad, and funny, but many more agree with you on that point.


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#111 RobbieH1234
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Baldur's Gate, and it's really not even close. A much better poll question would be between Baldur's Gate and Planescape: Torment, in which case it would be PT.Zeliard9
In terms of story, Torment > everything.
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#112 Zeliard9
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[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]Baldur's Gate, and it's really not even close. A much better poll question would be between Baldur's Gate and Planescape: Torment, in which case it would be PT.RobbieH1234
In terms of story, Torment > everything.

Agreed. No game has featured a superior storyline.

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#113 Oriental_Jams
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Well, I played BG a long time ago and I just couldn't get into it. I voted MGS, but if I went through and played BG again I'm not sure which I'd vote for.
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#114 mgkennedy5
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I think that it comes down to whether you like fantasy or more realisitc story more, I would say Baldurs Gate because it is REALLY big and that game was confusing I don't even know what was going on :)
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#115 lillefix
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I think that it comes down to whether you like fantasy or more realisitc story more, I would say Baldurs Gate because it is REALLY big and that game was confusing I don't even know what was going on :)mgkennedy5

If you feel Baldur's Gate is confusing, won't you consider that a negative thing?

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#116 mismajor99
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Baldur's Gate, hands down, not even a fair comparison. I can tell there are quite few more young kids posting here that have probably never played the series.

MGS has far too many goofy vague references that make little sense. It's very convoluted. I can't say the same for BG.

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#117 big_boss4life
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If this baldurs gate is so good how come i never heard about it?
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#118 Kez1984
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If this baldurs gate is so good how come i never heard about it?big_boss4life

Because you are a McDonald's gamer. Happy meals and Big Macs.

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#119 Zaeryn
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Anybody who says MGS either hasn't played Baldur's Gate or is a blind cow.
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#120 ClawKiller
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[QUOTE="big_boss4life"]If this baldurs gate is so good how come i never heard about it?Kez1984

Because you are a McDonald's gamer. Happy meals and Big Macs.

Whereas BG is fine caviar, with expensive champagne.

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[QUOTE="big_boss4life"]If this baldurs gate is so good how come i never heard about it?Kez1984

Because you are a McDonald's gamer. Happy meals and Big Macs.

So are you saying Baulder's Gate is a better game, because McDonald's sucks *barf*!

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#122 big_boss4life
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="big_boss4life"]If this baldurs gate is so good how come i never heard about it?ClawKiller

Because you are a McDonald's gamer. Happy meals and Big Macs.

Whereas BG is fine caviar, with expensive champagne.

What does mcdonals have to do with this?

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#123 unknowndrk
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Looks like metal gear solid series is the better choice. I also picked it. I remember playing Baldurs Gate games back in the day. They were solid but metal gear games trump it with the amazing plot twists and with the amount of impact the story has. Metal gear in my opinion destroys Baldurs gate series.
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#124 Kez1984
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Looks like metal gear solid series is the better choice. I also picked it. I remember playing Baldurs Gate games back in the day. They were solid but metal gear games trump it with the amazing plot twists and with the amount of impact the story has. Metal gear in my opinion destroys Baldurs gate series.unknowndrk

ok kid.

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#125 unknowndrk
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[QUOTE="unknowndrk"]Looks like metal gear solid series is the better choice. I also picked it. I remember playing Baldurs Gate games back in the day. They were solid but metal gear games trump it with the amazing plot twists and with the amount of impact the story has. Metal gear in my opinion destroys Baldurs gate series.Kez1984

ok kid.

ok old man. the score speaks for itself :lol: you're only blind if you can't see that MGS4 got a 10. enjoy playing on that ancient PC and gloat away about decade old games. MGS4> all Baldurs Gate games.

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#126 VanHelsingBoA64
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I have played BG, but I picked it so I can feel cool and hardcore 8)

Look at these kiddies voting for mgs 8)

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#127 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="big_boss4life"]If this baldurs gate is so good how come i never heard about it?Episode_Eve

Because you are a McDonald's gamer. Happy meals and Big Macs.

So are you saying Baulder's Gate is a better game, because McDonald's sucks *barf*!

Matter of preference really, it's kinda in the realm of apples and oranges. It's a mainstream fast food game type. Less effort, less time invested, more accessible, less learning curve.

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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="unknowndrk"]Looks like metal gear solid series is the better choice. I also picked it. I remember playing Baldurs Gate games back in the day. They were solid but metal gear games trump it with the amazing plot twists and with the amount of impact the story has. Metal gear in my opinion destroys Baldurs gate series.unknowndrk

ok kid.

ok old man. the score speaks for itself :lol: you're only blind if you can't see that MGS4 got a 10. enjoy playing on that ancient PC and gloat away about decade old games. MGS4> all Baldurs Gate games.

Yah dude 10 games all the way. Thats why I bought tony hawk after that review becuase 10 out of 10 equals awesome.

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#129 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="unknowndrk"]Looks like metal gear solid series is the better choice. I also picked it. I remember playing Baldurs Gate games back in the day. They were solid but metal gear games trump it with the amazing plot twists and with the amount of impact the story has. Metal gear in my opinion destroys Baldurs gate series.unknowndrk

ok kid.

ok old man. the score speaks for itself :lol:

I guess so.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/926596.asp?q=metal%20gear%20solid http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/258273.asp?q=Baldurs%20Gate%20I

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#130 blackdreamhunk
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="big_boss4life"]If this baldurs gate is so good how come i never heard about it?Episode_Eve

Because you are a McDonald's gamer. Happy meals and Big Macs.

So are you saying Baulder's Gate is a better game, because McDonald's sucks *barf*!

have you ever played bailder's gate?????

metal gear is garbe compared that!!!!!!

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#131 unknowndrk
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[QUOTE="unknowndrk"][QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="unknowndrk"]Looks like metal gear solid series is the better choice. I also picked it. I remember playing Baldurs Gate games back in the day. They were solid but metal gear games trump it with the amazing plot twists and with the amount of impact the story has. Metal gear in my opinion destroys Baldurs gate series.mysockshurt

ok kid.

ok old man. the score speaks for itself :lol: you're only blind if you can't see that MGS4 got a 10. enjoy playing on that ancient PC and gloat away about decade old games. MGS4> all Baldurs Gate games.

haha excellent sarcasm. Tony hawk was one game that totally didnt deserve a 10. im not saying Baldurs Gate games are bad. They are good games, but when someone is ignorant enough to say that the Metal Gear storylines are kiddy then I tend to shoot them all down with the AAAA MGS4. MGS1 was AA on gamespot, MGS2=AAA, MGS3 got an 8.7 but metal gear solid 3 subsistence got a 9.0, and Metal Gear solid 4 got a 10. I dont think reviewers are magically having a pattern here. Metal Gear solid games are superb.

Yah dude 10 games all the way. Thats why I bought tony hawk after that review becuase 10 out of 10 equals awesome.

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#132 VanHelsingBoA64
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[QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="big_boss4life"]If this baldurs gate is so good how come i never heard about it?Kez1984

Because you are a McDonald's gamer. Happy meals and Big Macs.

So are you saying Baulder's Gate is a better game, because McDonald's sucks *barf*!

Matter of preference really, it's kinda in the realm of apples and oranges. It's a mainstream fast food game type. Less effort, less time invested, more accessible, less learning curve.

You know that's not true.

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#133 unknowndrk
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[QUOTE="unknowndrk"][QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="unknowndrk"]Looks like metal gear solid series is the better choice. I also picked it. I remember playing Baldurs Gate games back in the day. They were solid but metal gear games trump it with the amazing plot twists and with the amount of impact the story has. Metal gear in my opinion destroys Baldurs gate series.Kez1984

ok kid.

ok old man. the score speaks for itself :lol:

I guess so.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/926596.asp?q=metal%20gear%20solid http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/258273.asp?q=Baldurs%20Gate%20I

HAHAHAHAHA what a hypocrite. what ever happened to "Gamespot reviews only?" then when the game scores a 10 you throw gamerankings at me? you fail old man.

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#134 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="unknowndrk"][QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="unknowndrk"]Looks like metal gear solid series is the better choice. I also picked it. I remember playing Baldurs Gate games back in the day. They were solid but metal gear games trump it with the amazing plot twists and with the amount of impact the story has. Metal gear in my opinion destroys Baldurs gate series.unknowndrk

ok kid.

ok old man. the score speaks for itself :lol:

I guess so.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/926596.asp?q=metal%20gear%20solid http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/258273.asp?q=Baldurs%20Gate%20I

HAHAHAHAHA what a hypocrite. what ever happened to "Gamespot reviews only?" then when the game scores a 10 you throw gamerankings at me? you fail old man.

30+ critics say I succeed.

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If this baldurs gate is so good how come i never heard about it?big_boss4life

^^^ why MG is winning the poll. BG is unaminously hailed as one (and by some THE) greatest RPG of all time, I think it says more about you than the game.

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#136 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="Episode_Eve"][QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="big_boss4life"]If this baldurs gate is so good how come i never heard about it?VanHelsingBoA64

Because you are a McDonald's gamer. Happy meals and Big Macs.

So are you saying Baulder's Gate is a better game, because McDonald's sucks *barf*!

Matter of preference really, it's kinda in the realm of apples and oranges. It's a mainstream fast food game type. Less effort, less time invested, more accessible, less learning curve.

You know that's not true.

So I take it you have never played BG?

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#138 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="unknowndrk"][QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="unknowndrk"][QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="unknowndrk"]Looks like metal gear solid series is the better choice. I also picked it. I remember playing Baldurs Gate games back in the day. They were solid but metal gear games trump it with the amazing plot twists and with the amount of impact the story has. Metal gear in my opinion destroys Baldurs gate series.unknowndrk

ok kid.

ok old man. the score speaks for itself :lol:

I guess so.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/926596.asp?q=metal%20gear%20solid http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/258273.asp?q=Baldurs%20Gate%20I

HAHAHAHAHA what a hypocrite. what ever happened to "Gamespot reviews only?" then when the game scores a 10 you throw gamerankings at me? you fail old man.

30+ critics say I succeed.

haha..wow you fail so bad.

If you say so.
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#139 unknowndrk
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I know so...

there's nothing to argue about when MGS4 simply got a 10 on GS while BG got 9.2 we're playing by everyones fanboy rules that GS scores matter right?

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#140 lillefix
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haha..wow you fail so bad. this game is so old that gamespy was reviewing it out of 100 instead of out of 5 LOL. MGS4 destroys Baldurs Gate 2. i'll let you be in denial though it's ok. I feel for you old man.

unknowndrk

What has the age of the game got to do with the story? The story doesn't age.

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#141 unknowndrk
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[QUOTE="unknowndrk"][QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="unknowndrk"][QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="unknowndrk"][QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="unknowndrk"]Looks like metal gear solid series is the better choice. I also picked it. I remember playing Baldurs Gate games back in the day. They were solid but metal gear games trump it with the amazing plot twists and with the amount of impact the story has. Metal gear in my opinion destroys Baldurs gate series.lillefix

ok kid.

ok old man. the score speaks for itself :lol:

I guess so.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/926596.asp?q=metal%20gear%20solid http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/258273.asp?q=Baldurs%20Gate%20I

HAHAHAHAHA what a hypocrite. what ever happened to "Gamespot reviews only?" then when the game scores a 10 you throw gamerankings at me? you fail old man.

30+ critics say I succeed.

haha..wow you fail so bad. this game is so old that gamespy was reviewing it out of 100 instead of out of 5 LOL. MGS4 destroys Baldurs Gate 2. i'll let you be in denial though it's ok. I feel for you old man.

What has the age of the game got to do with the story? The story doesn't age.

I wasnt speaking of the story. im just laughing at this guy being hypocritical by throwing gamerankings at me when all you fanboys rant about how gamespot reviews are the only reviews that count on system wars. More people voted for MGS games having better story anyway. the poll speaks for itself. go home everyone the shows over.

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#142 SSJ_Nega
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I haven't properly played through Baldurs gate, but the MGS series has the best story i've ever seen in a game. I can't really participate in the poll, but i'd say MGS just because of personal preference.
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#143 kage_53
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[QUOTE="big_boss4life"]If this baldurs gate is so good how come i never heard about it?blue_hazy_basic

^^^ why MG is winning the poll. BG is unaminously hailed as one (and by some THE) greatest RPG of all time, I think it says more about you than the game.

Same thing could be said for MGS in the action genre..

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="big_boss4life"]If this baldurs gate is so good how come i never heard about it?kage_53

^^^ why MG is winning the poll. BG is unaminously hailed as one (and by some THE) greatest RPG of all time, I think it says more about you than the game.

Same thing could be said for MGS in the action genre..

That people say they have never heard of it? :?
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#145 unknowndrk
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]

[QUOTE="big_boss4life"]If this baldurs gate is so good how come i never heard about it?kage_53

^^^ why MG is winning the poll. BG is unaminously hailed as one (and by some THE) greatest RPG of all time, I think it says more about you than the game.

Same thing could be said for MGS in the action genre..

yep. Hermits are just bitter about being left out in terms of having no AAAA game. it's embarrassing really since the PC has been out for so long and still no AAAA game to show for it. Crysis was their best shot and MGS4 and GTA4 beat it with 10's :D.

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#146 blackdreamhunk
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this whole thread is a joke......metal gear is trash!!!! i think some people need to play some real games................in stead of fps...........
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#147 mVolta
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75 votes for BG and im betting only 50% of them have even played it.
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#148 dru26
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I think MG is a little too convoluted for it's own good. I just finished the 3rd chapter, and while what I was watching was awesome, it didn't make an entirely whole lot of sense. Add in GWs, and TCs, and these other AI configurations, and I think Kojima was just trying to complicate things for no reason.

I'd pick Baldur's Gate, but MG is the king of the cutscene, even if I need Wikipedia to fully understand what Kojima is trying to tell me.

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#149 Kez1984
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[QUOTE="lillefix"][QUOTE="unknowndrk"][QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="unknowndrk"][QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="unknowndrk"][QUOTE="Kez1984"]

[QUOTE="unknowndrk"]Looks like metal gear solid series is the better choice. I also picked it. I remember playing Baldurs Gate games back in the day. They were solid but metal gear games trump it with the amazing plot twists and with the amount of impact the story has. Metal gear in my opinion destroys Baldurs gate series.unknowndrk

ok kid.

ok old man. the score speaks for itself :lol:

I guess so.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/926596.asp?q=metal%20gear%20solid http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/258273.asp?q=Baldurs%20Gate%20I

HAHAHAHAHA what a hypocrite. what ever happened to "Gamespot reviews only?" then when the game scores a 10 you throw gamerankings at me? you fail old man.

30+ critics say I succeed.

haha..wow you fail so bad. this game is so old that gamespy was reviewing it out of 100 instead of out of 5 LOL. MGS4 destroys Baldurs Gate 2. i'll let you be in denial though it's ok. I feel for you old man.

What has the age of the game got to do with the story? The story doesn't age.

throwing gamerankings at me when all you fanboys rant about how gamespot reviews are the only reviews that count on system wars.

Isn't that what you are dong? :?

I don't recall ranting about gamespot's reviews.

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#150 VanHelsingBoA64
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So I take it you have never played BG?

Kez1984

I can't find a source for Baldur's Gate, but I'm pretty sure MGS4 was announced back in May 2005.

When exactly was BG announced?