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[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="pintabear49blue"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]theres already a crap load of online ds games and ur sittin here tellin everyone that wii is the first. dont give me that ds is a handheld so it doesnt count statement eithermonkeysrfat

sheep need to face the truth. nintendo droped the ball with wii online

The first online DS game didn't launch 'till a year later...

um so? still came before the wii

I know :P

[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="pintabear49blue"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]theres already a crap load of online ds games and ur sittin here tellin everyone that wii is the first. dont give me that ds is a handheld so it doesnt count statement eitherpintabear49blue

sheep need to face the truth. nintendo droped the ball with wii online

The first online DS game didn't launch 'till a year later...

which proves that nintendo was not prepared then and not prepared now. psp had online on day one.there are no excuses

List of online DS games : 101

List of online PSP Games: 71

Now shut your pie holes.

I don't think the ds has 100 online games somehow lol

Some are still being made :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nintendo_DS_Wi-Fi_Connection_games

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#52 pintabear49blue
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[QUOTE="pintabear49blue"]

List of online DS games : 101

List of online PSP Games: 71

Eponique

which proves that nintendo has adequate experience with online and therefor has no excuse.

Didn't I just say the DS's online didn't launch until one year later?

I may sound like a big fat cow but.... Just wait.

so what? nintendo is a great company and if they actually took online more seriously then they could have had online on the wii on day one and also had on line for the ds on day one also

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#53 Eponique
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Looks like Wii has 27 online games planned/released.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wii_Wi-Fi_Connection_games

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#54 Eponique
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[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="pintabear49blue"]

List of online DS games : 101

List of online PSP Games: 71

pintabear49blue

which proves that nintendo has adequate experience with online and therefor has no excuse.

Didn't I just say the DS's online didn't launch until one year later?

I may sound like a big fat cow but.... Just wait.

so what? nintendo is a great company and if they actually took online more seriously then they could have had online on the wii on day one and also had on line for the ds on day one also

Your logic: Console makers don't care about games because they didn't provide quality games from day one :)

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#55 pintabear49blue
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[QUOTE="pintabear49blue"][QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="pintabear49blue"]

List of online DS games : 101

List of online PSP Games: 71

Eponique

which proves that nintendo has adequate experience with online and therefor has no excuse.

Didn't I just say the DS's online didn't launch until one year later?

I may sound like a big fat cow but.... Just wait.

so what? nintendo is a great company and if they actually took online more seriously then they could have had online on the wii on day one and also had on line for the ds on day one also

Your logic: Console makers don't care about games because they didn't provide quality games from day one :)

uhh...no. i have lost all respect for you.

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#56 Eponique
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uhh...no. i have lost all respect for you.pintabear49blue

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#57 pintabear49blue
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[QUOTE="pintabear49blue"][QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="pintabear49blue"]

List of online DS games : 101

List of online PSP Games: 71

Eponique

which proves that nintendo has adequate experience with online and therefor has no excuse.

Didn't I just say the DS's online didn't launch until one year later?

I may sound like a big fat cow but.... Just wait.

so what? nintendo is a great company and if they actually took online more seriously then they could have had online on the wii on day one and also had on line for the ds on day one also

Your logic: Console makers don't care about games because they didn't provide quality games from day one :)

i never said anything like that sheep. all i have said is that nintendo has so far handeld online for the wii poorly

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#58 air_wolf_cubed
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how could they have handeld it poorly if u could have only possibly played one online wii game? u cant say something is poor until u try it
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how could they have handeld it poorly if u could have only possibly played one online wii game? u cant say something is poor until u try itair_wolf_cubed

the fact that there is only one game online now ,is my point. i have no doubt that nintendo will change in the future but we are talking about the wii online currently.

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#60 Eponique
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]how could they have handeld it poorly if u could have only possibly played one online wii game? u cant say something is poor until u try itpintabear49blue

the fact that there is only one game online now ,is my point. i have no doubt that nintendo will change in the future but we are talking about the wii online currently.

*5

3 Japanese ones, Pokemon and Strikers.

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#61 pintabear49blue
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]how could they have handeld it poorly if u could have only possibly played one online wii game? u cant say something is poor until u try itEponique

the fact that there is only one game online now ,is my point. i have no doubt that nintendo will change in the future but we are talking about the wii online currently.

*5

3 Japanese ones, Pokemon and Strikers.

ok so there are five online games now. two for the us. so why cant we complain about the current online support(the point of this thread)

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#62 Eponique
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[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="pintabear49blue"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]how could they have handeld it poorly if u could have only possibly played one online wii game? u cant say something is poor until u try itpintabear49blue

the fact that there is only one game online now ,is my point. i have no doubt that nintendo will change in the future but we are talking about the wii online currently.

*5

3 Japanese ones, Pokemon and Strikers.

ok so there are five online games now. two for the us. so why cant we complain about the current online support(the point of this thread)

Care to name the online PS3 games?

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#63 pintabear49blue
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[QUOTE="pintabear49blue"][QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="pintabear49blue"]

[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"]how could they have handeld it poorly if u could have only possibly played one online wii game? u cant say something is poor until u try itEponique

the fact that there is only one game online now ,is my point. i have no doubt that nintendo will change in the future but we are talking about the wii online currently.

*5

3 Japanese ones, Pokemon and Strikers.

ok so there are five online games now. two for the us. so why cant we complain about the current online support(the point of this thread)

Care to name the online PS3 games?

there are more then five games online for the ps3. i do not own one so i am not going to list them for you. look it up

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#64 Eponique
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there are more then five games online for the ps3. i do not own one so i am not going to list them for you. look it uppintabear49blue

Well... obviously. But if there're less than 15, I can make a sig bet. By mid-2008 Wii will have more online games than the PS3 :)

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Are we talking purely online games? Or does this include online services? Because in both the Wii (and not DS, it was never mentioned by the TC) lags behind both consoles.

Does this give us the right to 'bash' the Wii for its lack of online? To me and a lot of other gamers (people who take gaming seriously at least) do care about online. Personally, as a gold member of XBL, I enjoy a lot of these benefits and though it would be nice if I could get the same experience for free, I still think I'm getting what my money is worth. And just because it's free does not provide an excuse for the disregard of online on the Wii. Case in point, the PS3, which is free, offers a full online experience that is superior to the Wii.

The truth is, Nintendo doesn't need to and it seems like it isn't making any improvements to its online strategy, other than a few new Channels, and a few games with online play tacked on. The majority of it's audience simply doesn't care so it wouldn't make sense for Nintendo to make a dedicated online infrastructure like XBL for only a small amount of people. That's why they use third-parties such as Gamespy for this service.

So until I see real services being offered by the Wii such as demo downloading, ranked and unranked play, easy messaging, and the use of names and not numbers, I am not happy with the Wii's online plan. And I'm expressing my discontent, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. And that's something the TC has done, so good on him/her.

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[QUOTE="pintabear49blue"]there are more then five games online for the ps3. i do not own one so i am not going to list them for you. look it upEponique

Well... obviously. But if there're less than 15, I can make a sig bet. By mid-2008 Wii will have more online games than the PS3 :)

why would i want to do that? i do not care about the ps3 at all. 360 will always have the most console games online but that is besides the point. will nintendo change? yes. but the whole point is the current support, not future

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#67 Eponique
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[QUOTE="Eponique"]

[QUOTE="pintabear49blue"]there are more then five games online for the ps3. i do not own one so i am not going to list them for you. look it uppintabear49blue

Well... obviously. But if there're less than 15, I can make a sig bet. By mid-2008 Wii will have more online games than the PS3 :)

why would i want to do that? i do not care about the ps3 at all. 360 will always have the most console games online but that is besides the point. will nintendo change? yes. but the whole point is the current support, not future

Isn't this whole thread about how bashing the Wii's online currently is absurd?

It also states it will change in the future. So there's no point in discussing RIGHT NOW.

And if the 360's online wasEVER worse than the PS3/Wii's than I'd lol hard. You pay for the 360's.

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#68 air_wolf_cubed
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who cares who has the most online games? not like ur gunna by every last one of them
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[QUOTE="pintabear49blue"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

[QUOTE="pintabear49blue"]there are more then five games online for the ps3. i do not own one so i am not going to list them for you. look it upEponique

Well... obviously. But if there're less than 15, I can make a sig bet. By mid-2008 Wii will have more online games than the PS3 :)

why would i want to do that? i do not care about the ps3 at all. 360 will always have the most console games online but that is besides the point. will nintendo change? yes. but the whole point is the current support, not future

Isn't this whole thread about how bashing the Wii's online currently is absurd?

It also states it will change in the future. So there's no point in discussing RIGHT NOW.

And if the 360's online wasEVER worse than the PS3/Wii's than I'd lol hard. You pay for the 360's.

topic is for current lack of online . there is nothing wrong with complaing about that. the point was about right now.

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#70 Eponique
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[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="pintabear49blue"][QUOTE="Eponique"]

[QUOTE="pintabear49blue"]there are more then five games online for the ps3. i do not own one so i am not going to list them for you. look it uppintabear49blue

Well... obviously. But if there're less than 15, I can make a sig bet. By mid-2008 Wii will have more online games than the PS3 :)

why would i want to do that? i do not care about the ps3 at all. 360 will always have the most console games online but that is besides the point. will nintendo change? yes. but the whole point is the current support, not future

Isn't this whole thread about how bashing the Wii's online currently is absurd?

It also states it will change in the future. So there's no point in discussing RIGHT NOW.

And if the 360's online wasEVER worse than the PS3/Wii's than I'd lol hard. You pay for the 360's.

topic is for current lack of online . there is nothing wrong with complaing about that. the point was about right now.

Heh... fine, I agree with you. Wii has a crappy online, for now.

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So can we steer the topic to what changes are upcoming for the Wii online?
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#72 Eponique
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So can we steer the topic to what changes are upcoming for the Wii online?Sharingan100

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Why the hell would I play GH III, Madden, or any other multi-plats on NWFC instead of the ridiculously superior XB Live, or even PSN?
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#74 Eponique
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Why the hell would I play GH III, Madden, or any other multi-plats on NWFC instead of the ridiculously superior XB Live, or even PSN? V_Isle

Because it's funny.

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#75 Riviera_Phantom
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Nintendo fanboyism at it's best. When you catch someone defending Nintendo's online system you know theres something wrong. You act like Nintendo are n00bs or something, with the amount of money they make and the underpowered system that they produce you would think making a superior online system would be their prioirty. Nope.
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Why the hell would I play GH III, Madden, or any other multi-plats on NWFC instead of the ridiculously superior XB Live, or even PSN? V_Isle

cause u gotta pay for xbox live and the game costs more for both those consoles lol

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Ive played Strikers online, its great, lag free, quick and easy. Only thing now is to add some sort of communication feature.

And i dont really care about friend codes.

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[QUOTE="Shinno441"]Honestly, this is Nintendo's first foray into real online gaming, you people need to give them a chance to get it up. I know it took a while for online to launch for the systems that first forayed into online gaming (I know for a fact that the PS2 had online with advantage of ethernet.). With Mario Strikers Charged six days away from release this will mark Nintendo's first REAL online Wii game (unlike that pathetic pokemon game) so give them a chance to get their first online games out. Madden, Guitar Hero III, Bwii, Medal of Honor, Animal Crossing and many other games are going to take advantage of Nintendo WFC in the near future, which will have playable battles without friend codes. If then Nintendo truley screws up online then you can bash them. But so far the messenger system and WiiConnect24 have proven to be what Nintendo said they would be. Tnasty11
this is Nintendo's first foray into real online gaming the GC had online

You beat me to it. I was also going to mention the GC had online. The TC seems to be behind the times (just like the Wii).
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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="Shinno441"]Honestly, this is Nintendo's first foray into real online gaming, you people need to give them a chance to get it up. I know it took a while for online to launch for the systems that first forayed into online gaming (I know for a fact that the PS2 had online with advantage of ethernet.). With Mario Strikers Charged six days away from release this will mark Nintendo's first REAL online Wii game (unlike that pathetic pokemon game) so give them a chance to get their first online games out. Madden, Guitar Hero III, Bwii, Medal of Honor, Animal Crossing and many other games are going to take advantage of Nintendo WFC in the near future, which will have playable battles without friend codes. If then Nintendo truley screws up online then you can bash them. But so far the messenger system and WiiConnect24 have proven to be what Nintendo said they would be. l-_-l
this is Nintendo's first foray into real online gaming the GC had online

You beat me to it. I was also going to mention the GC had online. The TC seems to be behind the times (just like the Wii).

Like what for the GC? A few third party online games over the years? I wouldnt call that real online at all.

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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="Shinno441"]Honestly, this is Nintendo's first foray into real online gaming, you people need to give them a chance to get it up. I know it took a while for online to launch for the systems that first forayed into online gaming (I know for a fact that the PS2 had online with advantage of ethernet.). With Mario Strikers Charged six days away from release this will mark Nintendo's first REAL online Wii game (unlike that pathetic pokemon game) so give them a chance to get their first online games out. Madden, Guitar Hero III, Bwii, Medal of Honor, Animal Crossing and many other games are going to take advantage of Nintendo WFC in the near future, which will have playable battles without friend codes. If then Nintendo truley screws up online then you can bash them. But so far the messenger system and WiiConnect24 have proven to be what Nintendo said they would be. Gimli524

this is Nintendo's first foray into real online gaming the GC had online

Phantasy Star online is the ONLY game I can think of. Nintendo is getting serious about online this gen.

Yea, so watch out, because Nintendo is getting serious with online gaming (just like they got serious about online gaming with the GC). :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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10 points for Nintendo for WiiWare! Now we wait and see if we can get some good original games. Is there going to be any first-party games on it by the way?

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[QUOTE="Shinno441"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]They promised and didn't delivered. They should be flamed by everyone.pintabear49blue

I see plans for Ninty online, the package just came a little late. But since we're talking about undelivered promises, let's talk about Sony seeing as your sig and avatar shows me you're a fanboy you're blind to what Sony promised and failed to deliver.

stop making excuses for nintendo. they are the only ones who do not have online and they could have done it along time ago. people are upset because they have not online to their consoles and had plenty of time to do so

So Super Mario Strikers and Pokemon are not online then?

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[QUOTE="V_Isle"]Why the hell would I play GH III, Madden, or any other multi-plats on NWFC instead of the ridiculously superior XB Live, or even PSN? air_wolf_cubed

cause u gotta pay for xbox live and the game costs more for both those consoles lol

I do believe that Nintendo is allowing Red Octane to make their own Wii Channel for Guitar Hero 3. I think it will be for the online gameplay as well as the special store system, however it might just be for the store and the gameplay will be similar to the other consoles where you use an ingame online system, however will probably impliment the friend code system if you want to play against someone you know, but you will also have the choice of playing against people you don't know at random.

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#84 pintabear49blue
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[QUOTE="pintabear49blue"]

[QUOTE="Shinno441"][QUOTE="NobuoMusicMaker"]They promised and didn't delivered. They should be flamed by everyone.DSgamer64

I see plans for Ninty online, the package just came a little late. But since we're talking about undelivered promises, let's talk about Sony seeing as your sig and avatar shows me you're a fanboy you're blind to what Sony promised and failed to deliver.

stop making excuses for nintendo. they are the only ones who do not have online and they could have done it along time ago. people are upset because they have not online to their consoles and had plenty of time to do so

So Super Mario Strikers and Pokemon are not online then?

what i meant was that the wii has a very small amount of online games at the moment and they could have brought online sooner then they did

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#85 mattyomo99
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this is 2007... it should have online period

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You're right. Its totally okay to not live up to current technological standards and expectations. Just let Nintendo have their merry way.Vandalvideo
Hmmmm.

OH, I see what you did there. :P

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#87 V_Isle
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[QUOTE="V_Isle"]Why the hell would I play GH III, Madden, or any other multi-plats on NWFC instead of the ridiculously superior XB Live, or even PSN? air_wolf_cubed

cause u gotta pay for xbox live and the game costs more for both those consoles lol

It costs more, but it's going to be a better version of the game, and I don't mind paying for such a great online service. Especially when you look at how weak the NWFC is. Face it, Nintendo screwed up in the online arena again. They've been stubborn about online gaming for years, and that's why they still suck at it.

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#88 xXHackettXx
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The Wiis online is bad. The PS2 had a better one years ago. Nintendo needs to get rid of the whole friends code thing.

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#89 Gears360
Member since 2007 • 1356 Posts
so........besides "GRAPHIX DONT MATTER" we can now add "TEH ONLINE DONT MATTER" ???
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#90 manningbowl135
Member since 2006 • 7457 Posts
How are people even defending Wii's lack of online? I don't care what you think of online play, at the end it's a huge part of next gen gaming. It's one of the most important parts of multiplayer and in some games, more important than single player. So if the Wii currently has online that is vastly inferior to current gen standards, that's a huge minus, not just neutral or a plus(?) like some people suggested.