Batman : Arkham Knight was running on PC at Sony's event

Lot of us noticed nVIDIA PhysX effects (Smoke , Destruction , Cloth Simulation etc) during Bat Mobile gameplay video and now Rocksteady Just confirmed that the game was running on PC .

Source

"When asked about the platform in which the game was running, Rocksteady’s Dax Ginn confirmed (during Gamespot’s E3 livestream, head over at 4:37:00 mark):

“This is the PC build.” "

I think this is wrong , since a lot of people will expect the game to look like that on consoles but it won't feature those effects & won't look like that .

Discuss .

Most if not all the E3 games ran on the PC. There's no way the graphics shown could possibly run on 2010 hardware.

no shit sherlock

Yeah I was thinking it looked like some enhanced Nvidia PhysX effects going on when I watched the trailer and every other Arkham game uses cuda PhysX on PC too, so im not surprised to hear this. It makes you wonder why they arent showing the PS4 version though... Maybe the console version doesnt have the same level of destruction or physics. We will have to wait and see I suppose.

tchbo

This is going to be an issue with consoles this gen where the console versions are definitely going to be gimped. Watchdogs is this. It's textures are just set to low or something compared to the pc version that was shown although it still runs great. The hardware in these consoles are basically so similar to a pc though that every game is going to be like that. The ps3 has some pretty uniquie hardware where some of its exclusives were able to do things the pc wasn't at times. Multiplats were terrible though and ran better on the 360 because it was more similar to a pc. That is not going to be the case here. Every game we see is going to be gimped. The ps4 will be next best with the xbone last.

ps4 exclusives will still be what you see though. Uncharted 4 is still going to probably trump a lot of games because it will be maximizing the ps4's specs and designed specifically for those specs. Most multiplats are going to be developed cross platform and optimized with different features turned off and relying on brute force of the pc. I still think some exclusives on the ps4 will keep up with the pc's best games because it will be designed specially for that hardware and to get the most out of it.

Batman will probably be similar to watchdogs though although it might not be as noticeable as that. These console sare so powerful they should be able to keep up with high end pcs in a lot of games because how much power do you need lol. A lot of pc games will be ported from consoles and vice versa where the pc version will look identical because it just wasn't designed with the extra power in mind.

No shit

the PC is the unsung hero of E3.

never forget.... :P.

what else is there to discuss though? they are running on PCs. it is what it is. for most developers it makes sense to have it demonstrated on the PC...especially if they are making a PC build anyway. the game is built on PCs...making a demo for each console for E3 would make no sense.

are they actually using physx or something else for the physics engine?

I think this happens a lot at E3. I remember last year MS showing 1080p 60 footage of BF4, and Forza was running on pc's with 7800's. Also Far Cry 3 demo never looked as good as the E3 version, even on a high end pc. Better question for Batman AK is will it have any those effects, or similar ones.

not the first time sony lied to cows. remember killzone 2? lol

Just imagine how far behind a system with ddr3 and hd7770 will be visually. Oh god its painful to even think about

Less issues on consoles. Both have their advantages. Keep in mind the hardware is so similar a lot of games are going to be ported from console to pc without the extra power in mind. These things are so powerful now it doesn't matter that much. Some pc's will be overpowered and cause issues in some games because more power isn't always better if the game isn't designed that way.

A lot of developers will probably develop on pc and port but a lot of these games aren't going to be designed trying to maximize the highest end pc out there. That would be stupid on their part and not cost effective at all.

i for one am not shocked

Games are not made on PCs , they are made on Dev kits with hardware and OS similar to consoles . And there were lot of PC games at E3 . PC devs have their own booths in such shows , or they reveal their games at booths of press like IGN , PC Gamer or Gamespot . Then there are shows like PAX and Gamescon , that are all about PCs .

Well, they obviously want to show the best looking version. :D

can I borrow your crystal ball?

Exactly people thinking these developers are going to develop on the highest end pc on the market are silly. pc gamers who spend that much money on that stuff aren't exactly the brightest tacks in the shed either. That would not be cost effective at all.

well considering they have that much money to spend on a hobby, they're probably doing something right

99% of all the E3 mutliplat trailers were running on PCs.

Why show off the game on inferior hardware when you can show it off in it's full glory?

I'm just thinking logically and understand hardware and development somewhat. And marketing too and what developers motivations really are. I do have a knack for seeing the big picture and can predict the future sometimes. It does happen.

have you thought that since they're similar, they'll be ported from PC to console

yes I did. I wrote that part. Read my post again because I edited it and added that part. See I saw your question before you asked it lol.

No way! you serious? guess i should cancel my plans on buying a PS4 and build a PC! man cant wait to play batman and goat simulator!

it wasn't their in the original quote. And since games can be made to be scalable, they can both maximize high end PCs while also playing on lower hardware

??????

I agree with you and games will be made to be scalable but my point was I highly doubt they are going to spend dev time trying to maximize the pc. That would not be cost effective. They more than likely are going to add graphics and spend time with more trying to maximize a certain medium. Probably a midrange pc. And then shut off certain features and go down the line. Instead of developing with the lowest common denominator.

I don't think they are going to try to maximize a high end pc. Some game might. But more than likely there will be some good exclusives that spend time trying to maximize the ps4 hardware and look better at times.

Some of the features on these graphics cards on pcs will automatically turn on and games are going to look better and have smoothing features and effects themselves that developers don't even have to do, but even still. It may cause problems in certain games. Why I said less problems on consoles although who knows. But even still developers aren't going to be out there trying to maximize and add graphics to the highest pc on the market. There may be a few games that do that. Crysis was that last gen. But even still.

More power on pcs equals better resolution and framerates etc. That's true. But if games are running at 60 fps and 1080p who is going to notice that much of a difference.

I'm more talking about the actual artwork and design of the game polygon count etc... Games aren't going to be designed with a high end pc in mind. That would be for next gen.

The pc is going to look better in a lot of cases this gen. That is no doubt.

lest we forget

If it isn't stated, doesn't everyone assume that what's shown is PC version? After the Watch_Dogs fiasco I can't see how anyone wouldn't. The game is also 2015 now.

Looks like PC reigns supreme this gen.

the game is a multiplat... of course they are going to present the best looking version of the game. that's what advertising is.... put your best foot forward even if it isn't a really your foot.

Sony being Sony again this E3. They want all the credit. They want every thing to look their best so they use PC hardware and they think they're slick enough no one will notice. But their job worked as their fans are so hyped over PC graphics. Wouldn't be surprised if Bloodbore was running on PC too. Plus every thing were CGI at their conference.

PC wins once again.

Can you please give a example of when or what was the PS3 with its unique hardware LOL was able to do the PC could not? Im curious how a PC that is 3 times or more powerful than a PS3 couldnt do anything the PS3 was able to do with its so called unique hardware.

I didn't mean it like that. The ps3 hardware was unique and most exclusives would not even run on a pc because they weren't designed that way . The ps3 had the ability to process with 8 spe's at the time but lacked bandwith and had a weak gpu. It was completely different architecture than pc's at the time.

It also had a blu-ray drive. Don't lol either because if you tried to run games like the show or uncharted on a pc they would not work and they couldn't do that. GAmes were on rails on the ps3 but they were able to stream data that the pc could not. It was very efficient at processing certain tasks. Especially certain types of data.

If you asked a developer who knows this they would tell you the same thing. I read it somewhere and I can't remember what types of files it could stream but for certain media it was ahead of pc's at the time. IT couldn't do the amount of textures or even resolution or framerates of a pc but for certain data it was more efficient. It was completely different architecture and those games would not run on a pc.

Now all these systems are the same architecture. They are all ahead of that anyways in most ways. But what i'm saying is true. It was able to handle specialized tasks. For most stuff it would choke though how games were being developed. That's why multiplats were not as good.

I know this because I said this last gen just looking at the hardware architecture and got laughed at here. I later read the guy who designed the chip and the 360 as well saying the same thing I was. I think naughty dog's lead designer also explained this in an article as well that I read after the fact. It was efficient at streaming/processing and offloading certain types of media from the spe's. I can't remember the exact type or name of the type of data.

If you ask the lead designer from ibm who designed both chips he will tell you what I'm saying is true though because it is..It is fact. Power of the cell lol. Whatever i'm joking but it was what i'm saying it is. Sony designed their console that way purposely for games that were in their own development network. Unfortunately it was not as good for other types of games and they alienated the pc market. They changed that this gen though.

What? These consoles are already weaker than mid range PCs. Besides, people keep using the graphics and resolution elements. For many PC gamers, it's actually just as, if not more, important to reach 60fps, or more.

Having better hardware isn't just for gfx heavy games like Crysis (4 incoming), The Witcher, where even on YouTube you can see the difference between max and medium (and YT quality is shit), Physx support which is heavy on the frames, MODS, which can kill your frames easily, higher and stabler FPS on any game, since consoles struggle to maintain 60fps. And let's be honest, Arkham Knight is going to be 30fps on consoles for sure.

PhysX best with dedicated card. :)

PhysX likes high clock and no boost.

My PC has this... I am ready.

What's the point of E3 if they're not going to show off how games are running on the system?

Seems like only Nintendo understands what to do at E3,

Of course it bloody was

you thought that was a console build? it looked bad ass but i didnt think this was what the graphics were going to be esp with the consoles. learned my lesson with ubisoft

PC won e3 yet again

I think we need to be cautious as to how the final product would look. I doubt most of the advanced visual effects will make it to the final game if Watch_Dogs is to be seen as a cautionary tale.

What?

No. Games are made on PC. You then run your debug build on a dev kit. It's like developing for an android phone. You don't write your app on a phone, you do it on a PC, then when you want to test something you either run a virtual phone on the PC or test on an phone by sideloading.

yeap. graphics are best on PC.

The Division and The Witcher 3 were running on PCs at Microsoft's event...and probably numerous other games.

You should be questioning the games combat. Looks to disappoint yet again.

I got a GT430 as a PhysX card at the moment.

I got a GT430 as a PhysX card at the moment.

We've only seen the batmobile combat. Very little has been revealed in regards to FreeFlow.