Battlefield 1943 sounds like a downgraded Battlefield 1942...

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]It's been explained. Multiple times. In this very thread. PublicNuisance

Really ? The only point I have seen is that I should spend $15 because it is watered down for casuals.

I rest my case. Goodbye.Verge_6

They always say they'll leave but they never do.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] I rest my case. Goodbye.PublicNuisance

They always say they'll leave but they never do.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

No I get the point, I just don't like their point.

PublicNuisance

I would love to, except DICE felt it right to not release the PC version until the fall. One more reason for me not to want it.

Why do so many dunce people flock to this forum?

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]It's been explained. Multiple times. In this very thread. PublicNuisance

Really ? The only point I have seen is that I should spend $15 because it is watered down for casuals.

[QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] I rest my case. Goodbye.SparkyProtocol

They always say they'll leave but they never do.

I am the proud owner of battlefield 1942, BF 2, 2142, and the not so proud ownder of BF Vietnam. I would like to say one thing: I never said previous BF games had blood, I said I was disapointed that 1943 didn't have blood.

Now you're just trolling. The game plays just like a PC BF game with the tedious parts deemphasized. But you don't care! This is system wars and trolling is what people do best!cametall

Those tedious parts are parts I happen to like for the most part. How would you like it if they took your favorite parts and changed them to soemthing else ?

Supposedly, the reason for the delay is that the time will be used to alter the maps and gameplay for PC standards. Bigger player cap, no regenerating ammo or health, hopefully a commander, engine tweaks, that sort of thing.pyromaniac223

They better, it's the only way I pay a penny for the thing. What they should of done was make our good version first and then pump out their console crap afterwards.

[QUOTE="cametall"][QUOTE="PublicNuisance"] Now you're just trolling. The game plays just like a PC BF game with the tedious parts deemphasized. But you don't care! This is system wars and trolling is what people do best!PublicNuisance

Those tedious parts are parts I happen to like for the most part. How would you like it if they took your favorite parts and changed them to soemthing else ?

Supposedly, the reason for the delay is that the time will be used to alter the maps and gameplay for PC standards. Bigger player cap, no regenerating ammo or health, hopefully a commander, engine tweaks, that sort of thing.pyromaniac223

They better, it's the only way I pay a penny for the thing. What they should of done was make our good version first and then pump out their console crap afterwards.

[QUOTE="cametall"]

Those tedious parts are parts I happen to like for the most part. How would you like it if they took your favorite parts and changed them to soemthing else ?

Supposedly, the reason for the delay is that the time will be used to alter the maps and gameplay for PC standards. Bigger player cap, no regenerating ammo or health, hopefully a commander, engine tweaks, that sort of thing.pyromaniac223

They better, it's the only way I pay a penny for the thing. What they should of done was make our good version first and then pump out their console crap afterwards.

Why would they do that? The Frostbite engine was already finished for consoles, and they're still porting it to PC. They made a more arcadey, user friendly version for consoles while waiting for the more traditional Battlefield on PC. Not a bad thing at all.pyromaniac223

Why ? How about because DICE owes us that much. They got their first break and their first success from PC, not consoles. It's called loyalty and they, like many others, have none. I know it was DICE Stockholm who did this not DICE, but they get their marching orders from DICE.

He hates it mainly because it is on consoles. He is not a gamer. IMOSparkyProtocol

Yeah Sparky here knows me real well. At least he thinks he does.

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] He hates it mainly because it is on consoles. He is not a gamer. IMOPublicNuisance

Yeah Sparky here knows me real well. At least he thinks he does.

Bashing consoles in every SW thread you post in thinking that console gaming is crap gets stale fast. SparkyProtocol

Not for me. It helps when there is conviction behind the words although I will admit there are certain people I like to rile up, but you aren't one of them. You're too calm.

What they should of done was make our good version first and then pump out their console crap afterwards.PublicNuisance

Edit: oh, I see. Loyalty. Considering that we've been buying their games (Bad Company, Mirror's Edge, and now 1943), I'm pretty sure their loyalty is to their ENTIRE audience, not just a subset of it.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] Why would they do that? The Frostbite engine was already finished for consoles, and they're still porting it to PC. They made a more arcadey, user friendly version for consoles while waiting for the more traditional Battlefield on PC. Not a bad thing at all.PublicNuisance

Why ? How about because DICE owes us that much. They got their first break and their first success from PC, not consoles. It's called loyalty and they, like many others, have none. I know it was DICE Stockholm who did this not DICE, but they get their marching orders from DICE.

[QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]What they should of done was make our good version first and then pump out their console crap afterwards.lowe0

Why ? How about because DICE owes us that much. They got their first break and their first success from PC, not consoles. It's called loyalty and they, like many others, have none. I know it was DICE Stockholm who did this not DICE, but they get their marching orders from DICE

Companies don't have loyalty. Companies have investors that they need to please. The engine was already on consoles, so why would they wait until the porting job was done and the PC version completed before making the console version, when they could do both simultaneously, get the console version out, and not lose any time at all on the PC version?pyromaniac223

That's what you get for going public. If I had a company it would never go public ever, it would stay private.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]Companies don't have loyalty. Companies have investors that they need to please. The engine was already on consoles, so why would they wait until the porting job was done and the PC version completed before making the console version, when they could do both simultaneously, get the console version out, and not lose any time at all on the PC version?PublicNuisance

That's what you get for going public. If I had a company it would never go public ever, it would stay private.

Then you would quickly get some harsh lessons in capitalism.pyromaniac223

Tell that to ID software, they stayed private for almost 20 years.

Companies don't have loyalty. Companies have investors that they need to please. The engine was already on consoles, so why would they wait until the porting job was done and the PC version completed before making the console version, when they could do both simultaneously, get the console version out, and not lose any time at all on the PC version?pyromaniac223

That's what you get for going public. If I had a company it would never go public ever, it would stay private.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

That's what you get for going public. If I had a company it would never go public ever, it would stay private.

SparkyProtocol

Why shouldn't console gamers get to enjoy BF though? They are gamers afterall. It is not like they are not working on BF3 for the PC crowd. They don't even have to release 1943 and BC2 on PCs since they've made alot of money on their console titles and I'm sure from BF Heroes.SparkyProtocol

It's a simple territory issue. We were there first, it's ours. It's schoolyard/animal logic, but it's how I feel.

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] Then you would quickly get some harsh lessons in capitalism.pyromaniac223

I was backing you up by asking a question targeted towards Publicnuisance. Sorry if I did not make that clear.SparkyProtocol

Not a big deal, I figured you were talking to me.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] I was backing you up by asking a question targeted towards Publicnuisance. Sorry if I did not make that clear.SparkyProtocol

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] Why shouldn't console gamers get to enjoy BF though? They are gamers afterall. It is not like they are not working on BF3 for the PC crowd. They don't even have to release 1943 and BC2 on PCs since they've made alot of money on their console titles and I'm sure from BF Heroes.PublicNuisance

It's a simple territory issue. We were there first, it's ours. It's schoolyard/animal logic, but it's how I feel.

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] Why shouldn't console gamers get to enjoy BF though? They are gamers afterall. It is not like they are not working on BF3 for the PC crowd. They don't even have to release 1943 and BC2 on PCs since they've made alot of money on their console titles and I'm sure from BF Heroes.PublicNuisance

It's a simple territory issue. We were there first, it's ours. It's schoolyard/animal logic, but it's how I feel.

Well that is moronic. I guess companies should not give quality titles to console gamers that would love to play quality games. For example, I don't feel backstabbed that Relic is making a console exclusive game now, I am pumped to play it.SparkyProtocol

I don't mind so much if you guys get it, but they should focus on the PC version first and give you guys a port afterwards.

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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] Why shouldn't console gamers get to enjoy BF though? They are gamers afterall. It is not like they are not working on BF3 for the PC crowd. They don't even have to release 1943 and BC2 on PCs since they've made alot of money on their console titles and I'm sure from BF Heroes.SparkyProtocol

It's a simple territory issue. We were there first, it's ours. It's schoolyard/animal logic, but it's how I feel.

We were there first? What? It's their IP, they have the right do do whatever they damn well want with it.

pyromaniac223

You're very right, but that's where loyalty come sinto play. There's what you can do, and then there's what you should do.

Me too, but five buck says it gets a PC port anyway.pyromaniac223

Yeah the PC port of 1943 is due out in the fall.

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"]Well that is moronic. I guess companies should not give quality titles to console gamers that would love to play quality games. For example, I don't feel backstabbed that Relic is making a console exclusive game now, I am pumped to play it.PublicNuisance

I don't mind so much if you guys get it, but they should focus on the PC version first and give you guys a port afterwards.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] Me too, but five buck says it gets a PC port anyway.PublicNuisance

Yeah the PC port of 1943 is due out in the fall.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] Me too, but five buck says it gets a PC port anyway.PublicNuisance

Yeah the PC port of 1943 is due out in the fall.

I've said this before, but I'll repeat it again for the sake of argument. The engine needed to be ported to PC anyways, so they started working on that. While that was underway, they just used the existing console engine to make the console version. This in no way impacted the PC version. Why would they sit there and do nothing while the PC engine was being worked on, then do the PC version and port it to consoles? The console version did not slow down the PC version at all.pyromaniac223

Well we don't know what kind of affect it will have until we see the quality of the PC port we get.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

We were there first? What? It's their IP, they have the right do do whatever they damn well want with it.

PublicNuisance

You're very right, but that's where loyalty come sinto play. There's what you can do, and then there's what you should do.

Who decides what they "should" do? You?

pyromaniac223

I wish. The world would be alot better if I was in charge if I do say so myself. At any rate the blame either falls on the decision makers at DICE, or EA itself.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"]

Who decides what they "should" do? You?

I wish. The world would be alot better if I was in charge if I do say so myself. At any rate the blame either falls on the decision makers at DICE, or EA itself.

Well, its more like an upgraded version of the game, that cuts out some content to make it downloadable in a reasonable amount of time, I love the game.Z0MBIES

Why do so many dunce people flock to this forum?

tramp

If you were incharge DICE would be poor and possible closed down and alot of gamers would be missing out on Battlefield.SparkyProtocol

No if I were in control of DICE they would be just as profitable as before and we would of never sold our souls to EA in the first place. Battlefield 3 would of been done by now. The frostbyte engine wouldn't of had to be ported to PC because it would of been on PC to start with so 1943 would be on PC right now. If I needed money I could have them port the games to consoles, but that's the thing, it would be a port after the PC version was done and finished.

Well, its more like an upgraded version of the game, that cuts out some content to make it downloadable in a reasonable amount of time, I love the game.Z0MBIES

Yeah smaller maps, les players, less classes, very upgraded. It's prettier that's all. Size shouldn't of mattered, I download 6GB off of Steam all the time, I don't mind. Console users might but I don't.

[QUOTE="Z0MBIES"]Well, its more like an upgraded version of the game, that cuts out some content to make it downloadable in a reasonable amount of time, I love the game.PublicNuisance

Yeah smaller maps, les players, less classes, very upgraded. It's prettier that's all. Size shouldn't of mattered, I download 6GB off of Steam all the time, I don't mind. Console users might but I don't.

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

That's what you get for going public. If I had a company it would never go public ever, it would stay private.

SparkyProtocol

Well, its more like an upgraded version of the game, that cuts out some content to make it downloadable in a reasonable amount of time, I love the game.Z0MBIES

Yeah smaller maps, les players, less classes, very upgraded. It's prettier that's all. Size shouldn't of mattered, I download 6GB off of Steam all the time, I don't mind. Console users might but I don't.

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="pyromaniac223"] Then you would quickly get some harsh lessons in capitalism.surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="pyromaniac223"][QUOTE="PublicNuisance"]

Yeah smaller maps, les players, less classes, very upgraded. It's prettier that's all. Size shouldn't of mattered, I download 6GB off of Steam all the time, I don't mind. Console users might but I don't.

SparkyProtocol

Pyro just said it. PCs are more download friendly, just one more perk of PC gaming. If DICE did cut it down to make it more download friendly then I can say that the PC version could of been better because it wouldn't needs cuts.