Battlefield 3 New Info: Consoles, Theatre Mode, Maps, Vehicles, and more!

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#51 _VenomX
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PC for UBER RACE and some friends, and a PS3 for my friends! HELL YEAH

L33T Dice :P

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#52 DAZZER7
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If they can get games like UC2, KZ3 to look as good as they do, I am sure DICE will be able to make BF3 look great on consoles. No doubt it will look better on PC, but for people without a top of the line computer, it will be perfect. Something I have a feeling Crysis 2 wont be able to do...

SRTtoZ

UC2 and KZ3 have small closed environments, they dont have large scale open environments. That means they can concentrate all the the geometry and high res textures/normal maps etc in that relatively small area. The consoles physically do not have the video ram to hold the textures for large draw distances. That makes it a game changer, not just a downgrade in graphics.

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#53 lhughey
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I'm not sure why they would try to switch the engine for Mirrors edge to this new engine. The UE3 engine did well with the first game. The upgraded UE 3.5 will probably do well again and probably have a shorter dev time.
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#54 IPWNDU2
Member since 2006 • 2535 Posts

How can you not like destruction? Its literally a game changer. Plus its more realistic. You'd rather a game be static and arcadey where maps are just death arenas to play in and not a true war torn battlefield?

blues35301

THAT WAS MY FAVOURITE CAMPING SPOT NOW IT IS GONE FFFFFFF. - Thats pretty much why anyone would hate destruction, sad but true.

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#56 deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
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I'm getting it for the consoles. PC gaming is Meh. I can deal with slightly downgraded graphics.Sp4rtan_3

console gaming is meh. atleast it's cheaper.

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

I'm getting it for both PS3 and PC.

Remmib

Why would you even entertain the thought of pissing away money on the vastly inferior PS3 version if you're getting it for PC?

maybe he wants to see if it can swim?

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#57 DAZZER7
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[QUOTE="DAZZER7"]

[QUOTE="SRTtoZ"]

If they can get games like UC2, KZ3 to look as good as they do, I am sure DICE will be able to make BF3 look great on consoles. No doubt it will look better on PC, but for people without a top of the line computer, it will be perfect. Something I have a feeling Crysis 2 wont be able to do...

AncientDozer

UC2 and KZ3 have small closed environments, they dont have large scale open environments. That means they can concentrate all the the geometry and high res textures/normal maps etc in that relatively small area. The consoles physically do not have the video ram to hold the textures for large draw distances. That makes it a game changer, not just a downgrade in graphics.

But you don't know and can't say for certain whether or not those were design decisions from an aesthetic outlook rather than technical limitations.

Creating a highly detailed game environment on a large scale IS a technical limitation. Technical limitations drive what the art department can or cannot do. My bet is that on the consoles, they will have smaller maps and a much smaller draw distance/ LOD load-in. I know what you mean though, in a studio its always back and forth, programmers consulting art dept and art dept asking for more from programmers. In that sense its both technical and art-direction.

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#58 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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Oh god...they confirmed destructibility in BF3? I hate destructibility it is one of the worst things to ever come to battlefield it makes all battlefield games with it come down to no one in online matches doing objectives just rushing in with tanks and blowing the crap out of every thing...

WilliamRLBaker


Only a problem in Rush. And they've found a solution to it already. It's called "don't place crates in collapsible buildings dummy". Either that or they could make the crate indestructible to anything but weapons fire and arming it. Or go just armament so people don't try to cheese it with C4 UAV's or whatever.

But people wrecking the crate buildings are definitely going after the objkectives, so I don't know what you're talking about. Nothing that makes sense or is based in reality, I can say that much.

I can see how somebody wouldnt like it. Its not very realistic in the BF series.

cobrax55

I can see that being a very irrational reason for disliking a mechanic that makes the gameplay much more dynamic and grants players tactical options previously unavailable to them. People who whine about the destruction not looking realistic enough are completely missing the point.

I'm getting it for the consoles.

PC gaming is Meh. I can deal with slightly downgraded graphics.Sp4rtan_3

Having been a fan of the series since its inception I would be incapable of accepting the scaled down multiplayer.

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#59 Sp4rtan_3
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]I'm getting it for the consoles. PC gaming is Meh. I can deal with slightly downgraded graphics.Remmib

Rofl.

Cognitive dissonance at its absolute finest.

I'm getting it for both PS3 and PC.

SaudiFury

Why would you even entertain the thought of pissing away money on the vastly inferior PS3 version if you're getting it for PC?

:lol: Pc elitism at its finest :|

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#60 Sp4rtan_3
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]
Only a problem in Rush. And they've found a solution to it already. It's called "don't place crates in collapsible buildings dummy". Either that or they could make the crate indestructible to anything but weapons fire and arming it. Or go just armament so people don't try to cheese it with C4 UAV's or whatever.

But people wrecking the crate buildings are definitely going after the objkectives, so I don't know what you're talking about. Nothing that makes sense or is based in reality, I can say that much.

[QUOTE="cobrax55"]I can see how somebody wouldnt like it. Its not very realistic in the BF series.

McStrongfast

I can see that being a very irrational reason for disliking a mechanic that makes the gameplay much more dynamic and grants players tactical options previously unavailable to them. People who whine about the destruction not looking realistic enough are completely missing the point.

I'm getting it for the consoles.

PC gaming is Meh. I can deal with slightly downgraded graphics.Sp4rtan_3

Having been a fan of the series since its inception I would be incapable of accepting the scaled down multiplayer.

Ive been a BF fan since 1942 on the PC and I certainly enjoyed Bad Company more then I ever did the PC versions of the game (even Bf2) This "scaled down" MP was a factor in BFBC2 and it didn't kill my enjoyment at all of that game so I dont expect it to do so with BF3.

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#61 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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I'm not sure why they would try to switch the engine for Mirrors edge to this new engine. The UE3 engine did well with the first game. The upgraded UE 3.5 will probably do well again and probably have a shorter dev time.lhughey
Because they've invested all these resources into their own engine built with their specific wants and needs in mind. They know exactly what it's capable of and how to efficiently accomplish the best results. They'll get what they want better and faster. Licensing a different engine would be a waste in all kinds of ways.

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#62 stygiansanity
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Looks incredible.
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#63 deactivated-5c79c3cfce222
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Ive been a BF fan since 1942 on the PC and I certainly enjoyed Bad Company more then I ever did the PC versions of the game (even Bf2) This "scaled down" MP was a factor in BFBC2 and it didn't kill my enjoyment at all of that game so I dont expect it to do so with BF3.

Sp4rtan_3

You evidently are not.

I also find Bad Company pretty good. Because of what it adds and updates, not what it removes and simplifies.
At its base Battlefield 3 should be like a Best Of, combining the best aspects of their previous games. Without the scale it'll only get partway there. It'd feel more like a sequel to BC2 than BF2, which would be hugely disappointing to a lot of people.

But it looks like everyone might be getting what they want, so...

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#64 Sp4rtan_3
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]

Ive been a BF fan since 1942 on the PC and I certainly enjoyed Bad Company more then I ever did the PC versions of the game (even Bf2) This "scaled down" MP was a factor in BFBC2 and it didn't kill my enjoyment at all of that game so I dont expect it to do so with BF3.

McStrongfast

You evidently are not.

I also find Bad Company pretty good. Because of what it adds and updates, not what it removes and simplifies.
At its base Battlefield 3 should be like a Best Of, combining the best aspects of their previous games. Without the scale it'll only get partway there. It'd feel more like a sequel to BC2 than BF2, which would be hugely disappointing to a lot of people.

But it looks like everyone might be getting what they want, so...

So you get to decide if i'm a BF fan or not :|

If you read the Game informer article it says the developers learned a lot from BC2 and BF2 so its a best of both worlds. Idk why it gets on you PC gamers nerves that someone wants the console version instead of the PC :?

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#65 haberman13
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[QUOTE="McStrongfast"]

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]

Ive been a BF fan since 1942 on the PC and I certainly enjoyed Bad Company more then I ever did the PC versions of the game (even Bf2) This "scaled down" MP was a factor in BFBC2 and it didn't kill my enjoyment at all of that game so I dont expect it to do so with BF3.

Sp4rtan_3

You evidently are not.

I also find Bad Company pretty good. Because of what it adds and updates, not what it removes and simplifies.
At its base Battlefield 3 should be like a Best Of, combining the best aspects of their previous games. Without the scale it'll only get partway there. It'd feel more like a sequel to BC2 than BF2, which would be hugely disappointing to a lot of people.

But it looks like everyone might be getting what they want, so...

So you get to decide if i'm a BF fan or not :|

If you read the Game informer article it says the developers learned a lot from BC2 and BF2 so its a best of both worlds. Idk why it gets on you PC gamers nerves that someone wants the console version instead of the PC :?

Personally consoles are fine, but they definitely have a negative effect on a game when it *could* be PC-only.

DICE on the other hand "gets it", and developed an engine that can scale down to N64 levels by the sound of it; so PC shouldn't be gimped because we can scale up.

Other developers (Crytek) limit their game so it runs on console, as opposed to developing for PC and then figuring out how to pare it down for console. (fail developers now IMO)

Smart devs make the game they "envision", like DICE, whereas it seems Crytek has made a game for consoles instead of for their vision. (sorry /rant off)

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#66 Wanderer5
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Time to get back into Battlefield.Might need to upgrade my PC through so that it doesn't explode by the awesomeness.:P

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#67 NWA90s
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gamers can expect four or even five games to come out using the Frostbite 2 engine

CoD anyone? nah im just joking :D

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[QUOTE="McStrongfast"]

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]

Ive been a BF fan since 1942 on the PC and I certainly enjoyed Bad Company more then I ever did the PC versions of the game (even Bf2) This "scaled down" MP was a factor in BFBC2 and it didn't kill my enjoyment at all of that game so I dont expect it to do so with BF3.

Sp4rtan_3

You evidently are not.

I also find Bad Company pretty good. Because of what it adds and updates, not what it removes and simplifies.
At its base Battlefield 3 should be like a Best Of, combining the best aspects of their previous games. Without the scale it'll only get partway there. It'd feel more like a sequel to BC2 than BF2, which would be hugely disappointing to a lot of people.

But it looks like everyone might be getting what they want, so...

So you get to decide if i'm a BF fan or not :|

If you read the Game informer article it says the developers learned a lot from BC2 and BF2 so its a best of both worlds. Idk why it gets on you PC gamers nerves that someone wants the console version instead of the PC :?

You say that you're more of a fan of Bad Company and don't care at all if one of the core defining aspects of the main Battlefield series goes missing. So no I don't consider you one.

There are circumstances where getting it for console makes sense despite owning a capable PC. Mainly if that's the version your friends will be playing. ...I can't actually think of another reason.