Battlefield 4 confirmed by EA, beta coming fall 2013

guess no 2143,bc3,(or even mirrors edge 2) anytime soonvg247

Let the milkage begin!Badosh

I think they're probably trying to get out one more game before the generation ends.

[QUOTE="Badosh"]Let the milkage begin!Stevo_the_gamer

More or less what he said.

There hasn't been an outright bad Battlefield game either and all of them have had some significant changes over predecessors.

Since it looks like a winter 2013 launch and that DICE has said that the Frostbite 2 engine was built for the next gen, maybe we'll see it on the next gen consoles instead? I guess that will depend on Sony and Microsoft.

I would prefer a 2014 release to make sure that both Sony and Microsoft have their next gen consoles out so that BF4 doesn't have to be scaled down for 24 players again. That was probably the biggest factor in terms of design. I know that they'll never have 100% massive maps again because of how popular the smaller maps were in BF3, but things like squad size, squad communication tools, and even a commander mode all cut because they had to build the game with 24 players in mind.

I have no problem with a new game every 2 years. Why bother beating around the bush and taking 5 years for a sequel when development teams are massive now and they can pump out quality games in half the time they used to be able to.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Badosh"]Let the milkage begin!Wasdie

More or less what he said.

There hasn't been an outright bad Battlefield game either and all of them have had some significant changes over predecessors.

Since it looks like a winter 2013 launch and that DICE has said that the Frostbite 2 engine was built for the next gen, maybe we'll see it on the next gen consoles instead? I guess that will depend on Sony and Microsoft.

I would prefer a 2014 release to make sure that both Sony and Microsoft have their next gen consoles out so that BF4 doesn't have to be scaled down for 24 players again. That was probably the biggest factor in terms of design. I know that they'll never have 100% massive maps again because of how popular the smaller maps were in BF3, but things like squad size, squad communication tools, and even a commander mode all cut because they had to build the game with 24 players in mind.

I have no problem with a new game every 2 years. Why bother beating around the bush and taking 5 years for a sequel when development teams are massive now and they can pump out quality games in half the time they used to be able to.

I agree..

if the BETA is available towards the end of 2013 then the game will probably be released early 2014, so as long as DICE will make sure they release an AAA title and futher improve the game I'll be more than happy to buy BF4..

I agree..

if the BETA is available towards the end of 2013 then the game will probably be released early 2014, so as long as DICE will make sure they release an AAA title and futher improve the game I'll be more than happy to buy BF4..

Malta_1980

I think Battlefield 3 is as streamlined as the series is going to go. It's by far the most selling Battlefield game to date. They have no reason to change the formula any more to try to expand the audience. They were successful in that. If anything, I can see them improving on stuff that was lacking BF3. I know it will launch in a better state than BF3 becuase the engine will be much more mature and they've learned a lot from their current audience.

One can only be hopeful that it is on the next gen console and they drop that silly 24 player limit. At the least, I want every map to be design with 64 players in mind. Maps like Sharaqi and Back to Karkand prove that you can have urban experiances without all of the obvious chokepoints that they had in their latest maps.

Though I have to admit, the CQ pack was great for what it is. Also I really hope that Armor Kill is a massive success.

Pretty sure they are gonna relese Battlefield and Medal of Honor in opposite years and try to take away from Call of Duty sales. Smart strategy but we will see if they can keep the quality up.

Milkage. But then again if you want to dethrone the Beasty COD then you need yearly release, otherwise the gap year would be Cod stealing your fanbase and thats why they have yearly releases now (MOH and BF are the same engine, just 1 is on a smaller scale). In terms of business, it makes sense and I just hope they don't talk too much like they did before BF3 release and end up looking like fools. Remember when BF3 come out they apologiesed for their comments of cod, since they noticed that their sales were no where near COD and didn't even let Cod come out before they apologiesed. But hey nothing like getting the fanboys bashing Cod to buy your game as a way to express their hate for Cod.

I did end up buying BF3 on PC thanks to a sale, but cod still carries water. imo But hey BF can never be milkage right? only cod can be classed as milking. It's funny how when EA copies cod's yearly release it's not called milking. Why? because they named the titles different(MOH and BF) they are apart, although they use the same engine and the same mechanics.

Milkage. But then again if you want to dethrone the Beasty COD then you need yearly release, otherwise the gap year would be Cod stealing your fanbase and thats why they have yearly releases now (MOH and BF are the same engine, just 1 is on a smaller scale). In terms of business, it makes sense and I just hope they don't talk too much like they did before BF3 release and end up looking like fools. Remember when BF3 come out they apologiesed for their comments of cod, since they noticed that their sales were no where near COD and didn't even let Cod come out before they apologiesed. But hey nothing like getting the fanboys bashing Cod to buy your game as a way to express their hate for Cod.

I did end up buying BF3 on PC thanks to a sale, but cod still carries water. imo But hey BF can never be can never be milkage right? only cod can be classed as milking. It's funny how when EA copies cod's yearly release it's not called milking. Why? because they named the titles different(MOH and BF) they are apart, although they use the same engine and the same mechanics.

viper-kid

thing is though battlefield is bi-yearly and will continue to be.

[QUOTE="viper-kid"]

Milkage. But then again if you want to dethrone the Beasty COD then you need yearly release, otherwise the gap year would be Cod stealing your fanbase and thats why they have yearly releases now (MOH and BF are the same engine, just 1 is on a smaller scale). In terms of business, it makes sense and I just hope they don't talk too much like they did before BF3 release and end up looking like fools. Remember when BF3 come out they apologiesed for their comments of cod, since they noticed that their sales were no where near COD and didn't even let Cod come out before they apologiesed. But hey nothing like getting the fanboys bashing Cod to buy your game as a way to express their hate for Cod.

I did end up buying BF3 on PC thanks to a sale, but cod still carries water. imo But hey BF can never be can never be milkage right? only cod can be classed as milking. It's funny how when EA copies cod's yearly release it's not called milking. Why? because they named the titles different(MOH and BF) they are apart, although they use the same engine and the same mechanics.

razgriz_101

thing is though battlefield is bi-yearly and will continue to be.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"]

Milkage. But then again if you want to dethrone the Beasty COD then you need yearly release, otherwise the gap year would be Cod stealing your fanbase and thats why they have yearly releases now (MOH and BF are the same engine, just 1 is on a smaller scale). In terms of business, it makes sense and I just hope they don't talk too much like they did before BF3 release and end up looking like fools. Remember when BF3 come out they apologiesed for their comments of cod, since they noticed that their sales were no where near COD and didn't even let Cod come out before they apologiesed. But hey nothing like getting the fanboys bashing Cod to buy your game as a way to express their hate for Cod.

I did end up buying BF3 on PC thanks to a sale, but cod still carries water. imo But hey BF can never be can never be milkage right? only cod can be classed as milking. It's funny how when EA copies cod's yearly release it's not called milking. Why? because they named the titles different(MOH and BF) they are apart, although they use the same engine and the same mechanics.

viper-kid

thing is though battlefield is bi-yearly and will continue to be.

thing is MoH and BF are diffrent IP'.

CoD is the same year in year out, same mechanics as one another and various other bits.

Sorry but viper we've been over this last year, this nonsense doesnt wash.

Milkage. But then again if you want to dethrone the Beasty COD then you need yearly release, otherwise the gap year would be Cod stealing your fanbase and thats why they have yearly releases now (MOH and BF are the same engine, just 1 is on a smaller scale). In terms of business, it makes sense and I just hope they don't talk too much like they did before BF3 release and end up looking like fools. Remember when BF3 come out they apologiesed for their comments of cod, since they noticed that their sales were no where near COD and didn't even let Cod come out before they apologiesed. But hey nothing like getting the fanboys bashing Cod to buy your game as a way to express their hate for Cod.

I did end up buying BF3 on PC thanks to a sale, but cod still carries water. imo But hey BF can never be milkage right? only cod can be classed as milking. It's funny how when EA copies cod's yearly release it's not called milking. Why? because they named the titles different(MOH and BF) they are apart, although they use the same engine and the same mechanics.

viper-kid

[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

thing is though battlefield is bi-yearly and will continue to be.

razgriz_101

thing is MoH and BF are diffrent IP'.

CoD is the same year in year out, same mechanics as one another and various other bits.

Sorry but viper we've been over this last year, this nonsense doesnt wash.

BF4 Beta, One month before release confirmed. EA will be fools to ignore the November and December buying rush.

Milkage. But then again if you want to dethrone the Beasty COD then you need yearly release, otherwise the gap year would be Cod stealing your fanbase and thats why they have yearly releases now (MOH and BF are the same engine, just 1 is on a smaller scale). In terms of business, it makes sense and I just hope they don't talk too much like they did before BF3 release and end up looking like fools. Remember when BF3 come out they apologiesed for their comments of cod, since they noticed that their sales were no where near COD and didn't even let Cod come out before they apologiesed. But hey nothing like getting the fanboys bashing Cod to buy your game as a way to express their hate for Cod.

I did end up buying BF3 on PC thanks to a sale, but cod still carries water. imo But hey BF can never be milkage right? only cod can be classed as milking. It's funny how when EA copies cod's yearly release it's not called milking. Why? because they named the titles different(MOH and BF) they are apart, although they use the same engine and the same mechanics.

viper-kid

CoD is the same year in year out, same mechanics as one another and various other bits.

Sorry but viper we've been over this last year, this nonsense doesnt wash.

I'm guessing this will be coming to PC, Wii U, Xbox 720, and PS4.

[QUOTE="viper-kid"]

Milkage. But then again if you want to dethrone the Beasty COD then you need yearly release, otherwise the gap year would be Cod stealing your fanbase and thats why they have yearly releases now (MOH and BF are the same engine, just 1 is on a smaller scale). In terms of business, it makes sense and I just hope they don't talk too much like they did before BF3 release and end up looking like fools. Remember when BF3 come out they apologiesed for their comments of cod, since they noticed that their sales were no where near COD and didn't even let Cod come out before they apologiesed. But hey nothing like getting the fanboys bashing Cod to buy your game as a way to express their hate for Cod.

I did end up buying BF3 on PC thanks to a sale, but cod still carries water. imo But hey BF can never be milkage right? only cod can be classed as milking. It's funny how when EA copies cod's yearly release it's not called milking. Why? because they named the titles different(MOH and BF) they are apart, although they use the same engine and the same mechanics.

Dreams0fChaos

[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

thing is though battlefield is bi-yearly and will continue to be.

razgriz_101

thing is MoH and BF are diffrent IP'.

CoD is the same year in year out, same mechanics as one another and various other bits.

Sorry but viper we've been over this last year, this nonsense doesnt wash.

I'm guessing this will be coming to PC, Wii U, Xbox 720, and PS4.

TyberZannxxxx

Let the milkage begin!Badosh

Just what we needed, another generic shooter.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Cod is too in that sense. There is 2 devs working on the game for 2 years and they release in turns. Just like BF they have 2 devs working on MOH and BF and they also release in turns just with different names, but like Cod, they use the same engine.viper-kid

thing is MoH and BF are diffrent IP'.

CoD is the same year in year out, same mechanics as one another and various other bits.

Sorry but viper we've been over this last year, this nonsense doesnt wash.

As is clear you've never played either of the latest MoH or BF titles.

2 are vastly diffrent games.

Oh yeh Dice isnt involved in Warfighter either btw.So yup kid like you did all last year with MW3 you will continually shoot yourself in the foot to save face or at least attempt to.

I'm gonna laugh when this one sells like crap because BF 3 sucked ass.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Cod is too in that sense. There is 2 devs working on the game for 2 years and they release in turns. Just like BF they have 2 devs working on MOH and BF and they also release in turns just with different names, but like Cod, they use the same engine.viper-kid

thing is MoH and BF are diffrent IP'.

CoD is the same year in year out, same mechanics as one another and various other bits.

Sorry but viper we've been over this last year, this nonsense doesnt wash.

Sounds like no new consoles in 2013 then.

[QUOTE="TyberZannxxxx"]

I'm guessing this will be coming to PC, Wii U, Xbox 720, and PS4.

Jebus213

No the beta starts Fall 2013 which implies a 2014 release

So is this going to be on Xbox 720 and PS4? I bet it has 64 players since the next gen systems are going to be really powerful.

Bring back the Commander so I can use Artilery and supply drops.

An Xbox3/PS4 port with 64 player matches would be a day one to me.

So is this going to be on Xbox 720 and PS4? I bet it has 64 players since the next gen systems are going to be really powerful.

Bring back the Commander so I can use Artilery and supply drops.

xhawk27

It would insulting to give 360/PS3 players beta codes for unreleased console versions of the game.

If anything this means we may not see new consoles next year

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

So is this going to be on Xbox 720 and PS4? I bet it has 64 players since the next gen systems are going to be really powerful.

Bring back the Commander so I can use Artilery and supply drops.

bonesawisready5

It would insulting to give 360/PS3 players beta codes for unreleased console versions of the game.

If anything this means we may not see new consoles next year

Yeah but I still think 2014 is the year the Next Xbox and the PS4 are released. So there might be a version for them in 2014.

If the beta is in fall it could come out in early 2014.

[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="TyberZannxxxx"]

I'm guessing this will be coming to PC, Wii U, Xbox 720, and PS4.

bonesawisready5

No the beta starts Fall 2013 which implies a 2014 release

Let the milkage begin!Badosh

[QUOTE="Badosh"]Let the milkage begin!Cranler

Battlefield 2: June 2005.

Battlefield 3: October 2011.

Battlefield 4: fall 2013.

From 6 years to barely 2 years. I'm angry: BF3 was not only worse than Bad Company 2, but now instead of releasing BF 2143 or a Bad Company 3 game saving BF4 to the next gen of consoles they will release a BF3 mod called "Battlefield 4" aiming to prehistoric consoles with a collapsing cycle of sales as the main focus od the development.

Good luck with that EA: I fell in BF3 but mercifully avoided the DLCs and will not purchase your new Medal of Horror or new Battlefiled rehas; please call again when a new BC of BF 214X game would be ready, due are at most your obly franchises I could remotely care from you at this moment. And fire the Battlelog designer, please.

[QUOTE="Badosh"]Let the milkage begin!Cranler

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Badosh"]Let the milkage begin!Ondoval

Battlefield 2: June 2005.

Battlefield 3: October 2011.

Battlefield 4: fall 2013.

From 6 years to barely 2 years. I'm angry: BF3 was not only worse than Bad Company 2, but now instead of releasing BF 2143 or a Bad Company 3 game saving BF4 to the next gen of consoles they will release a BF3 mod called "Battlefield 4" aiming to prehistoric consoles with a collapsing cycle of sales as the main focus od the development.

Good luck with that EA: I fell in BF3 but mercifully avoided the DLCs and will not purchase your new Medal of Horror or new Battlefiled rehas; please call again when a new BC of BF 214X game would be ready, due are at most your obly franchises I could remotely care from you at this moment. And fire the Battlelog designer, please.

Lets see the BF fanboys (hypocrites) defend this now. BF is now a COD clone in all but name.

They were right. Battlefield has become the new CoD.shogunduk

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Badosh"]Let the milkage begin!Ondoval

Battlefield 2: June 2005.

Battlefield 3: October 2011.

Battlefield 4: fall 2013.

From 6 years to barely 2 years. I'm angry: BF3 was not only worse than Bad Company 2, but now instead of releasing BF 2143 or a Bad Company 3 game saving BF4 to the next gen of consoles they will release a BF3 mod called "Battlefield 4" aiming to prehistoric consoles with a collapsing cycle of sales as the main focus od the development.

Good luck with that EA: I fell in BF3 but mercifully avoided the DLCs and will not purchase your new Medal of Horror or new Battlefiled rehas; please call again when a new BC of BF 214X game would be ready, due are at most your obly franchises I could remotely care from you at this moment. And fire the Battlelog designer, please.

Wow really? What's the difference between waiting 6 years and waiting 2 years? Do you really think they worked on BF3 for 6 years?

They didn't start working on the meat of BF3 until they were done with BC2 which gave them a bit under 2 years to make the game.

Lets see the BF fanboys (hypocrites) defend this now. BF is now a COD clone in all but name.

Far_RockNYC

I dont follow your logic...