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#51 Wasdie  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Far_RockNYC"]

Lets see the BF fanboys (hypocrites) defend this now. BF is now a COD clone in all but name.

lostrib

I dont follow your logic...

There is none. They don't put out a new BF game every year and it's still radically different than Medal of Honor. Now that's the a CoD clone.

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#52 shogunduk
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[QUOTE="shogunduk"]They were right. Battlefield has become the new CoD.nolson
How so? COD releases every year. This would be 2 years between BF games. BTW, a lot of games release on 2 year dev cycles, uncharted 2007, uncharted 2, 2009, uncharted 3, 2011 just as an example. Yet, no one calls them the new 'COD'. COD is the same franchise every single year even though it has 2 year dev cycle it still releases every year.

Dumbed down gameplay, loads of DLC, not giving a crap about the consumers. They're getting close.
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#53 viper-kid
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lol I love this. The all mighty BF3 is stooping to Cod's level right guys? MOH MP was made by Dice so the next dev can just follow their lead in the new one. Its BF with less features, no matter how you think of it. Dice gets 2 years to develop just like IW and treyarch, but hey it's Dice so they get a free pass. Face it Cod is leading the way and EA is trying to catch up with weapon customisation, killstreaks, perks, close quartered maps and now yearly releases of shooters using the same engine.

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#54 M13L13S
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Sounds good. It'll have been 2 years. I don't see this as milking the franchise. As pointed out before, most games are on a 2 year dev cycle. Why should BF be criticized when other games with 2 year dev cycles aren't?

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lol I love this. The all mighty BF3 is stooping to Cod's level right guys? MOH MP was made by Dice so the next dev can just follow their lead in the new one. Its BF with less features, no matter how you think of it. Dice gets 2 years to develop just like IW and treyarch, but hey it's Dice so they get a free pass. Face it Cod is leading the way and EA is trying to catch up with weapon customisation, killstreaks, perks, close quartered maps and now yearly releases of shooters using the same engine.

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MoH 2010 MP was made by Dice because they put out MoH in a very short time. Now Danger Close does all of the work while DICE focuses on BF games. However, it seems that MoH is a direct CoD clone. Nothing really unique about it. That was not DICE's decision either. They were used as internal outsourcing for EA so they could get Medal of Honor out as quickly as possible.

You're the only one trying to make this about CoD. BF3 is miles ahead of CoD MW3 when it comes to replayability and content. Before you disagree, you should know I own and play both. Knowing you, you haven't touched a BF game in 3 years yet run your mouth about it.

You can keep trying to say CoD is the "lead", but all you got is sales now, and even that gap has been really shortened.

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#56 M13L13S
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"]

lol I love this. The all mighty BF3 is stooping to Cod's level right guys? MOH MP was made by Dice so the next dev can just follow their lead in the new one. Its BF with less features, no matter how you think of it. Dice gets 2 years to develop just like IW and treyarch, but hey it's Dice so they get a free pass. Face it Cod is leading the way and EA is trying to catch up with weapon customisation, killstreaks, perks, close quartered maps and now yearly releases of shooters using the same engine.

Wasdie

MoH 2010 MP was made by Dice because they put out MoH in a very short time. Now Danger Close does all of the work while DICE focuses on BF games. However, it seems that MoH is a direct CoD clone. Nothing really unique about it. That was not DICE's decision either. They were used as internal outsourcing for EA so they could get Medal of Honor out as quickly as possible.

You're the only one trying to make this about CoD. BF3 is miles ahead of CoD MW3 when it comes to replayability and content. Before you disagree, you should know I own and play both. Knowing you, you haven't touched a BF game in 3 years yet run your mouth about it.

You can keep trying to say CoD is the "lead", but all you got is sales now, and even that gap has been really shortened.

You can tell he most likely didn't play BF3 from the fact that he says there are killstreaks. Really? In my 12 or so hours playing online I haven't seen a single kill streak. I must just suck. Weapon customization isn't a bad thing. Sure COD does it but BF3 does it differently and your choices make much more of a difference than in COD. The perks are small and don't change the game as much as they do in COD. Finally, so maps are smaller, sure. But there are also maps like Operation Firestorm, and even the small maps feel much bigger than COD's Why is having options for what size map you want to play on a bad thing?

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#57 viper-kid
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Ehh killstreaks are in MOH. Guess you haven't played MOH

Here is my BF3 account

To the post above me. lol talk about defending a game haha at least I can admit Cod is milkage but why can't you BF fans do the same? And for those points you are making excuses for the game, all the BF fans talk about how bad Cod is, but now Dice has started copying them it's fine right? EA's strategy is to mimic the competition and hopeful the fans will migrate, which didn't work last when they trashed Cod but ended up backing up on their statements.

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Didn't they say a little while ago that they intended to swap out Battlefield and Medal of Honor each year? Quite a convenient way to dodge claims of franchise fatigue...

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#59 klusps
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Ehh, BF4 sounds too soon. Unless it is Battlefield 2142 then it might be a pass for me.

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#60 viper-kid
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Didn't they say a little while ago that they intended to swap out Battlefield and Medal of Honor each year? Quite a convenient way to dodge claims of franchise fatigue...

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Hey a different name, same engine and less features equals a brand spanking new game.
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#61 lostrib
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Ehh killstreaks are in MOH. Guess you haven't played MOH

Here is my BF3 account

To the post above me. lol talk about defending a game haha at least I can admit Cod is milkage but why can't you BF fans do the same? And for those points you are making excuses for the game, all the BF fans talk about how bad Cod is, but now Dice has started copying them it's fine right? EA's strategy is to mimic the competition and hopeful the fans will migrate, which didn't work last when they trashed Cod but ended up backing up on their statements.

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For all the metro you play, your stats should be higher

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#62 viper-kid
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Ehh killstreaks are in MOH. Guess you haven't played MOH

Here is my BF3 account

To the post above me. lol talk about defending a game haha at least I can admit Cod is milkage but why can't you BF fans do the same? And for those points you are making excuses for the game, all the BF fans talk about how bad Cod is, but now Dice has started copying them it's fine right? EA's strategy is to mimic the competition and hopeful the fans will migrate, which didn't work last when they trashed Cod but ended up backing up on their statements.

lostrib

For all the metro you play, your stats should be higher

Still played the game bud and have a over 1.00 K/D and W/L. So it not like I suck at the game, unlike most of you on Cod. Go on BF fans lets see your Cod elite profiles.
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#63 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"]

Ehh killstreaks are in MOH. Guess you haven't played MOH

Here is my BF3 account

To the post above me. lol talk about defending a game haha at least I can admit Cod is milkage but why can't you BF fans do the same? And for those points you are making excuses for the game, all the BF fans talk about how bad Cod is, but now Dice has started copying them it's fine right? EA's strategy is to mimic the competition and hopeful the fans will migrate, which didn't work last when they trashed Cod but ended up backing up on their statements.

viper-kid

For all the metro you play, your stats should be higher

Still played the game bud and have a over 1.00 K/D and W/L. So it not like I suck at the game, unlike most of you on Cod. Go on BF fans lets see your Cod elite profiles.

Well you're certainly not good at it.

People actually bought COD elite...

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#64 viper-kid
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[QUOTE="viper-kid"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

For all the metro you play, your stats should be higher

lostrib

Still played the game bud and have a over 1.00 K/D and W/L. So it not like I suck at the game, unlike most of you on Cod. Go on BF fans lets see your Cod elite profiles.

Well you're certainly not good at it.

People actually bought COD elite...

Em Cod elite is free for stat tracking. HAHA lets see your profiles guys. Seems to me that most of you just bash Cod without playing it at least I have actually played BF3 so I can judge. Including you lostrib lets see your Cod profile and show me your skills, if you got any.
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#65 lostrib
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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="viper-kid"] Still played the game bud and have a over 1.00 K/D and W/L. So it not like I suck at the game, unlike most of you on Cod. Go on BF fans lets see your Cod elite profiles.viper-kid

Well you're certainly not good at it.

People actually bought COD elite...

Em Cod elite is free for stat tracking. HAHA lets see your profiles guys. Seems to me that most of you just bash Cod without playing it at least I have actually played BF3 so I can judge. Including you lostrib lets see your Cod profile and show me your skills, if you got any.

Have COD for PC so as far as I know I don't have a COD elite page

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#66 M13L13S
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Ehh killstreaks are in MOH. Guess you haven't played MOH

Here is my BF3 account

To the post above me. lol talk about defending a game haha at least I can admit Cod is milkage but why can't you BF fans do the same? And for those points you are making excuses for the game, all the BF fans talk about how bad Cod is, but now Dice has started copying them it's fine right? EA's strategy is to mimic the competition and hopeful the fans will migrate, which didn't work last when they trashed Cod but ended up backing up on their statements.

viper-kid

Haven't played MOH. I was speaking about BF3 with that comment. I have all the CODs since COD4 and have played and enjoyed them all. In fact, I have played more hours of COD than I have of BF:BC2 and BF3. They are fun games and I will continue to play them. BF3 copied COD. I wholeheartedly agree. However, BF3 goes beyond what COD does in some areas. The attachments mean a lot more than in COD and affect the gun and gameplay more than in COD. Perks aren't quite as good but really aren't meant to be. BC2 had some close quarter maps so it's not like this is the first time the series has had close quarter maps. I can't really say if MOH is a copy of BF due to not playing it.

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#67 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="TyberZannxxxx"]

I'm guessing this will be coming to PC, Wii U, Xbox 720, and PS4.

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No, BF4 is coming out next year...

No the beta starts Fall 2013 which implies a 2014 release

You must be new to DICE's development process. They're releasing a new BF every two years.....lol they had BC2's CLOSED beta a month before it's release. I think BF3's beta was a couple months before its released.
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#68 nolson
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[QUOTE="WTA2k5"]

Didn't they say a little while ago that they intended to swap out Battlefield and Medal of Honor each year? Quite a convenient way to dodge claims of franchise fatigue...

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Hey a different name, same engine and less features equals a brand spanking new game.

You keep saying "less features". But really. The multiplayer in BF is about the big picture large scale warfare, where as MOH games are about infantry based warfare. The fact remains MOH and BF have nothing in common other than they are both published by EA. COD releases every single year with hardly any changes. The two are not comparable I'm sorry no matter how hard you are trying.
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#69 nolson
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Ehh killstreaks are in MOH. Guess you haven't played MOH

Here is my BF3 account

To the post above me. lol talk about defending a game haha at least I can admit Cod is milkage but why can't you BF fans do the same? And for those points you are making excuses for the game, all the BF fans talk about how bad Cod is, but now Dice has started copying them it's fine right? EA's strategy is to mimic the competition and hopeful the fans will migrate, which didn't work last when they trashed Cod but ended up backing up on their statements.

viper-kid
It's not milkage because the FRANCHISE doesn't release every single year like COD does. It might be on the verge of milking considering all the DLC and what not but no where near COD milkage with the yearly releases.
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#70 aroxx_ab
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So now Battlefield has become a "yearly new game" - franchise...

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if I had to guess they'll say you can only play the beta by buying MoH but then give everyone else access anyways
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[QUOTE="Cranler"] How is this milkage and previous installments not? BF 1942, BF Vietnam, BF 2 and BF 2142 all released within a 4 year period.Wasdie

Battlefield 2: June 2005.

Battlefield 3: October 2011.

Battlefield 4: fall 2013.

From 6 years to barely 2 years. I'm angry: BF3 was not only worse than Bad Company 2, but now instead of releasing BF 2143 or a Bad Company 3 game saving BF4 to the next gen of consoles they will release a BF3 mod called "Battlefield 4" aiming to prehistoric consoles with a collapsing cycle of sales as the main focus od the development.

Good luck with that EA: I fell in BF3 but mercifully avoided the DLCs and will not purchase your new Medal of Horror or new Battlefiled rehas; please call again when a new BC of BF 214X game would be ready, due are at most your obly franchises I could remotely care from you at this moment. And fire the Battlelog designer, please.

Wow really? What's the difference between waiting 6 years and waiting 2 years? Do you really think they worked on BF3 for 6 years?

They didn't start working on the meat of BF3 until they were done with BC2 which gave them a bit under 2 years to make the game.

DICE argued themselves that the long period from BF2 to BF3 give they time to explore new concepts as environment destruction using the console spin offs (Bd Company) as field of test.

That extended time will not exist in a 2 year frame window. Releasing a BF 2143 or Bad Company 3 would at least foced them to work in new assets, whereas releasing BF4 will turn the franchise into the same clusterf*** of lacking innovations and stagnation that COD currently suffers. I spent over 400 hours in BF2, over 800 hours in BC2, and less than 150 in BF3. I wasn't waiting for another Metro rehash so fast; now EA has nothing to me up to at least 2014, which is -to some extent- fine as will let me focus into more ambitious developers and products. But is still a shame for people which liked BF2 better than BF3.

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#73 dakan45
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[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="Badosh"]Let the milkage begin!nolson
How is this milkage and previous installments not? BF 1942, BF Vietnam, BF 2 and BF 2142 all released within a 4 year period.

Because people are stupid and don't know what they are talking about.

Oh so people are stupid now? Go take a alook on what bf titles got released and when, you will hardly find a year that there wasnt anything released.
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#74 WilliamRLBaker
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an EA game...I dont buy EA games.

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Infinity Ward - Modern Warfare 2

Tryarch - Call Of Duty Black ops

Infinity Ward - Modern Warfare 3

Tryarch - Call Of Duty Black Ops 2

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Medal Of Honor

Battlefield 3

Medal of Honor : warfighter

Battlefield 4

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For some reason I think it will be next gen since that's when MS and Sony are suppose to show off new consoles or at least tech demos.

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#77 Wasdie  Moderator
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Infinity Ward - Modern Warfare 2

Tryarch - Call Of Duty Black ops

Infinity Ward - Modern Warfare 3

Tryarch - Call Of Duty Black Ops 2

__________________________________

Medal Of Honor

Battlefield 3

Medal of Honor : warfighter

Battlefield 4

Far_RockNYC

Medal Of Honor is developed by Danger Close. Medal of Honor 2010 has the multiplayer element done by DICE but Warfighter is 100% done by Danger Close. The only role DICE plays in Warfighter is technology. They developed and constantly support the Frostbite 2.0 engine.

DICE has a dedicated tech team that just works on the engine for the various games it's being implemented in. The game programmers are not the same as their engine programmers.

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#78 Wasdie  Moderator
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For some reason I think it will be next gen since that's when MS and Sony are suppose to show off new consoles or at least tech demos.

HaloPimp978

That would make the most sense. DICE has said that the Frostbite 2 engine was really built for next-gen consoles in mind. It scales up very well. Considering how good Medal of Honor Warfighter looks on the PC (looks better than BF3), who knows how good they could make BF4 look when they no longer have to build the game for 2 platforms with only 512 mbs of ram.

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#79 skrat_01
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Hurm. The announcement torpedoed my enthusiasm for picking up BF premium. Considering the backlog of games and fantastic titles due this year that'll hold my time, I'd rather wait for the 'next Battlefield instalment after the next Medal of Honour'. Sigh, don't sink Battlefield DICE, BF3's issues came way too close.
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This is becoming sickenning

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#81 dakan45
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[QUOTE="Far_RockNYC"]

Infinity Ward - Modern Warfare 2

Tryarch - Call Of Duty Black ops

Infinity Ward - Modern Warfare 3

Tryarch - Call Of Duty Black Ops 2

__________________________________

Medal Of Honor

Battlefield 3

Medal of Honor : warfighter

Battlefield 4

Wasdie

Medal Of Honor is developed by Danger Close. Medal of Honor 2010 has the multiplayer element done by DICE but Warfighter is 100% done by Danger Close. The only role DICE plays in Warfighter is technology. They developed and constantly support the Frostbite 2.0 engine.

DICE has a dedicated tech team that just works on the engine for the various games it's being implemented in. The game programmers are not the same as their engine programmers.

Hopefully that means the mp wont be crap.
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I didn't buy Battlefield 3 so it makes sense for me to wait for BF4 to release.
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[QUOTE="Far_RockNYC"]

Infinity Ward - Modern Warfare 2

Tryarch - Call Of Duty Black ops

Infinity Ward - Modern Warfare 3

Tryarch - Call Of Duty Black Ops 2

__________________________________

Medal Of Honor

Battlefield 3

Medal of Honor : warfighter

Battlefield 4

Wasdie

Medal Of Honor is developed by Danger Close. Medal of Honor 2010 has the multiplayer element done by DICE but Warfighter is 100% done by Danger Close. The only role DICE plays in Warfighter is technology. They developed and constantly support the Frostbite 2.0 engine.

DICE has a dedicated tech team that just works on the engine for the various games it's being implemented in. The game programmers are not the same as their engine programmers.

They need to get some better people working on that engine, because it is buggy as hell.

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#84 princeofshapeir
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EA, masters of milkage. How low DICE and Crytek have fallen.
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#85 II_Seraphim_II
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Im thinking DICE and EA wanna make up for BF3 not being all it was hyped up to be. I enjoy BF3, I just think its not as good as it could have been.
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#86 smokingsbad
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Im thinking DICE and EA wanna make up for BF3 not being all it was hyped up to be. I enjoy BF3, I just think its not as good as it could have been.II_Seraphim_II
I'm pretty sure they are going to make the same mistake.