Battlefield 4 Rumors - Could be fake

And it begins.  

 http://wccftech.com/battlefield-4-sticks-720p60-fps-nextgen-consoles-frostbite-25-game-details-leaked-arriving-november-2013/#ixzz2O060cmF4

Many new details of DICEs upcoming next-generation Battlefield 4 FPS have been leaked by Chiphell forums. According to the leaker, the details would be mentioned in the April issue of the Edge magazine while the game itself would be announced at GDC 2013 during 26th 27th March. A teaser sneak peak along with cover image of Battlefield 4 have already been released which you can view here.

Battlefield 4 Gets Frosbite 2.5 Engine Destruction 4.0, Tessellation, Dynamic Weather Affects

In our previous article, we mentioned how the next generation Battlefield 4 would utilize 80% of the Frostbite engines power compared to 30% utilization in Battlefield 3. The new Frostbite 2.5 engine would feature much more enhanced visuals with PC being the lead platform for the game. According to the details, Battlefield 4 would maintain a steady 60 FPS on 720P resolution on both next generation consoles which include the PS4 and Xbox 720 which is a slight bit of a disappointment since earlier rumors suggested 1080P/60 FPS target for the next-gen consoles. However, the next generation consoles including the PC would get 64 players while the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 would stick to the default 24 player setup which is currently seen on Battlefield 4.

Frostbite 2.5 would be a complete overhaul of the current Frostbite 2.0 engine with DirectX 11 compatibility only on PC. Furthermore, the game would feature Dynamic weather effects such as rain, sandstorms, fog, haze and would be totally random. Each map would get these dynamic weather effects and would change depending on the variable conditions. As you may have noted, the cover image shows a glimpse of these weather effects such as rain. Battlefield 4 would also bring back the much renowned and upgraded Destruction 4.0 system to the game which would offer destructible environments and buildings which we saw back in Bad Company 2. PC versions would benefit from compute power which would render these dynamic destructible effects much more realistically. Furthermore, all of the environment including water, terrain and characters/NPC would make use of the new tessellation technology implemented inside Frostbite 2.5.

Battlefield 4 Set in China During 2020, Maps, Weapons Confirmed

The game would be set in 2020 but maintains a modern day setting featuring China and USA as the main infantry factions. The single player section of the game would be around 5-6 hours long in which there would be 2 campaigns of the PLA factions and would bring back the renowned animation effects of Bad Company series. Just like Battlefield 3s Capsian border where the main tower collapses at the end of the game, a map would be based in Shanghai China at the end of which the Orient Pearl tower would collapse. Not much single player details were given but there are a ton of Multiplayer details such as the maps which include:

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• Diaoyu Island
• Tiananmen
• Shanghai Bund
• Xizhimen
• Xizhimen Rush

These are only a few of the total maps featured in Battlefield 4. Weapons such as the famouse Chinese J20, Y20, Xianglong would appear in the game along with those from other factions. Two of the confirmed tanks include M1A2 TUSK and PLA Type 99 each featuring their own set of customization options such as laser guidance and armor piercing rounds. Best thing thats mentioned in the leak is that Air Combat zone would be further increased giving much more room for dog fights with jets.

Commander system as expected is definately making a return to the game with the leading commander Providing fire, recharges and UAV detection support to their team. Skill system has also been overhauled. According to the leak, Micro-transactions would be available in the game but they wont affect the balance of the game at all and are entirely optional which is great to hear. As for DLCs, the game would get after a while a map pack which would bring four further maps to the game which include:

• Power station in Dalian
• Daqing oil field
• The great wall of China
• Wake Island (Classic Battlefield Map)

In my Battlefield 4 teaser video post i mentioned that if even half of these features came true, Battlefield 4 would be an absolute beast of an FPS. With todays leak, things are hyped up on my end and im really looking forward to GDC 2013s announcement of DICEs upcoming gem aka Battlefield 4.

Sux, but lol'd at the sentance "both next generation consoles"

Lol Wii U :lol:

Good to hear the destruction is back.  

None of this news excites me at all, sounds like more BF too me which isnt a bad thing, just maybe boring at this shooter infested point. Also by the year 2020, War would look nothing like the Modern Iraq type setting anymore.

Double posting!

That's not toally unexpected. It's DICE's first game on the next gen consoles. 

Though really, the difference between 1080p and 720p on a console with native upscaling isn't big enough to justify the massive performance hit it costs. I won't be suprised if most next-gen games are 720p on the consoles.

If you have to choose between more pixels for little gain or way more obvious improvements to other parts of the rendering, I think you should go with the latter. Unless your face is 2 feet from the screen, 1080p isn't going to make as big of a difference.

I would rather have 720p at 60fps for most games anyways. 

Anyways the rest of BF4 sounds amazing. I can't wait to see what they have in store for us.

Double posting!

That's not toally unexpected. It's DICE's first game on the next gen consoles. 

Though really, the difference between 1080p and 720p on a console with native upscaling isn't big enough to justify the massive performance hit it costs. I won't be suprised if most next-gen games are 720p on the consoles.

If you have to choose between more pixels for little gain or way more obvious improvements to other parts of the rendering, I think you should go with the latter. Unless your face is 2 feet from the screen, 1080p isn't going to make as big of a difference.

I would rather have 720p at 60fps for most games anyways. 

Wasdie

Double posting!

That's not toally unexpected. It's DICE's first game on the next gen consoles. 

Though really, the difference between 1080p and 720p on a console with native upscaling isn't big enough to justify the massive performance hit it costs. I won't be suprised if most next-gen games are 720p on the consoles.

If you have to choose between more pixels for little gain or way more obvious improvements to other parts of the rendering, I think you should go with the latter. Unless your face is 2 feet from the screen, 1080p isn't going to make as big of a difference.

I would rather have 720p at 60fps for most games anyways. 

Anyways the rest of BF4 sounds amazing. I can't wait to see what they have in store for us.

Wasdie

I still think the majority of games on PS4 will be 1080p. With Battlefield running 64 player MP I guess some sacrifices were made. I guess 60fps is better than 1080p in a game like this? never played a Battlefield, but I assume it is very demanding game

At least it's 60fps! Very satisfied with the setting. Finally!

Should make the console versions 30fps so the gfx can be the best they can be.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Double posting!

That's not toally unexpected. It's DICE's first game on the next gen consoles. 

Though really, the difference between 1080p and 720p on a console with native upscaling isn't big enough to justify the massive performance hit it costs. I won't be suprised if most next-gen games are 720p on the consoles.

If you have to choose between more pixels for little gain or way more obvious improvements to other parts of the rendering, I think you should go with the latter. Unless your face is 2 feet from the screen, 1080p isn't going to make as big of a difference.

I would rather have 720p at 60fps for most games anyways. 

Anyways the rest of BF4 sounds amazing. I can't wait to see what they have in store for us.

StrongBlackVine

I still think the majority of games on PS4 will be 1080p. With Battlefield running 64 player MP I guess some sacrifices were made. I guess 60fps is better than 1080p in a game like this? never played a Battlefield, but I assume it is very demanding game

Starting out you'll see a lot of 1080p games, but as the hardware starts getting streatched thin, devs are going to have to make decisions. John Carmack has already said that they'll probably just end up with 720p at 30fps and choose to have higher resolution textures, more lighting, more objects rendered, and more post processing. 

Most people cannot really tell the difference. Consoles do native upscaling too which makes 720p look better on a 1080 set. Im sure these upscaling methods are going to get even better with the next gen consoles. 

Remember the PC will still set the bar and devs there do not need to worry about having an upper limit. Eventually they can just tell people to throw more hardware at their games. Can't do that with consoles.

Should make the console versions 30fps so the gfx can be the best they can be.

Obviously_Right

I'm sure the whole 60fps thing will be to take a jab at CoD. 

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

Should make the console versions 30fps so the gfx can be the best they can be.

Wasdie

I'm sure the whole 60fps thing will be to take a jab at CoD. 

Blame the cpu's 04dcarraher

Kind of sucks, but finally having 60fps on a FPS on a console will be a very welcomed change. 

Thanks TC, i loved everything i just read.

'Dynamic weather effects such as rain, sandstorms, fog, haze and would be totally random.'

Oh boy!!!

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Blame the cpu's tormentos

there is much more going on with a battlefield game then a KZ game.

technically speaking  if the choice is between 720p and 1080i i would choose the 720 setting.

progressive scan  > interlaced

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Blame the cpu's tormentos

Five to six hour single player? Jeez, that sucks. The multiplayer had better be Godly.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Blame the cpu's tormentos

True and 30fps is enough for most games. I will need to see how it looks vs the 1080p games. 720p might be OK for a game like Battlefield but Uncharted, InFAMOUS etc better be in true HD.

technically speaking  if the choice is between 720p and 1080i i would choose the 720 setting.

progressive scan  > interlaced

Riverwolf007

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Blame the cpu's faizan_faizan

Killzone is still more than half a year from release...

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Blame the cpu's StrongBlackVine

True and 30fps is enough for most games. I will need to see how it looks vs the 1080p games. 720p might be OK for a game like Battlefield but Uncharted, InFAMOUS etc better be in true HD.

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Blame the cpu's StrongBlackVine

True and 30fps is enough for most games. I will need to see how it looks vs the 1080p games. 720p might be OK for a game like Battlefield but Uncharted, InFAMOUS etc better be in true HD.

Double posting!

That's not toally unexpected. It's DICE's first game on the next gen consoles. 

Though really, the difference between 1080p and 720p on a console with native upscaling isn't big enough to justify the massive performance hit it costs. I won't be suprised if most next-gen games are 720p on the consoles.

If you have to choose between more pixels for little gain or way more obvious improvements to other parts of the rendering, I think you should go with the latter. Unless your face is 2 feet from the screen, 1080p isn't going to make as big of a difference.

I would rather have 720p at 60fps for most games anyways. 

Anyways the rest of BF4 sounds amazing. I can't wait to see what they have in store for us.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Killzone PS4 1080p..Enough say.. Don't blame the PS4 for developer short comings..Riverwolf007

True and 30fps is enough for most games. I will need to see how it looks vs the 1080p games. 720p might be OK for a game like Battlefield but Uncharted, InFAMOUS etc better be in true HD.

720p is sub HD as far I'm concerned. 1080p looks so much sharper.

I would be pretty surprised if next gen games still continue to use 720p, And I would rather have 1080p at 30fps for most games, Because you don't need 60fps when using a controller, That's my preference at least.faizan_faizan

It depends of the genre. For a shooter, 60fps and 720p + good AA, is probably the best option. For a less action packed game, on the other hand, i would put res over frame rate.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

technically speaking  if the choice is between 720p and 1080i i would choose the 720 setting.

progressive scan  > interlaced

ActionRemix

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Killzone PS4 1080p..Enough say.. Don't blame the PS4 for developer short comings..04dcarraher

True and 30fps is enough for most games. I will need to see how it looks vs the 1080p games. 720p might be OK for a game like Battlefield but Uncharted, InFAMOUS etc better be in true HD.

I know that. That is why I said Uncharted and inFamous etc will be 1080p.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

True and 30fps is enough for most games. I will need to see how it looks vs the 1080p games. 720p might be OK for a game like Battlefield but Uncharted, InFAMOUS etc better be in true HD.

StrongBlackVine

720p is sub HD as far I'm concerned. 1080p looks so much sharper.

secondly, so what is 4K?

supa extra true hd?

Starting out you'll see a lot of 1080p games, but as the hardware starts getting streatched thin, devs are going to have to make decisions. John Carmack has already said that they'll probably just end up with 720p at 30fps and choose to have higher resolution textures, more lighting, more objects rendered, and more post processing. 

Most people cannot really tell the difference. Consoles do native upscaling too which makes 720p look better on a 1080 set. Im sure these upscaling methods are going to get even better with the next gen consoles. 

Remember the PC will still set the bar and devs there do not need to worry about having an upper limit. Eventually they can just tell people to throw more hardware at their games. Can't do that with consoles.

Wasdie

[QUOTE="Obviously_Right"]

Should make the console versions 30fps so the gfx can be the best they can be.

Wasdie

I'm sure the whole 60fps thing will be to take a jab at CoD. 

I know, that's what annoys me...BF3 felt fine to me at 30fps.

I'm worried that they're trying to make it play like COD and this is just the first step.

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]:lol:

Riverwolf007

720p is sub HD as far I'm concerned. 1080p looks so much sharper.

supa extra true hd?

I haven't watched anything in 4K so I don't know.

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]:lol:

Riverwolf007

720p is sub HD as far I'm concerned. 1080p looks so much sharper.

supa extra true hd?

2160p, 4x pixels of 1080p

This game sounds much better than BF3 from what I'm hearing, can't wait for this game!

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Double posting!

That's not toally unexpected. It's DICE's first game on the next gen consoles. 

Though really, the difference between 1080p and 720p on a console with native upscaling isn't big enough to justify the massive performance hit it costs. I won't be suprised if most next-gen games are 720p on the consoles.

If you have to choose between more pixels for little gain or way more obvious improvements to other parts of the rendering, I think you should go with the latter. Unless your face is 2 feet from the screen, 1080p isn't going to make as big of a difference.

I would rather have 720p at 60fps for most games anyways. 

Anyways the rest of BF4 sounds amazing. I can't wait to see what they have in store for us.

GulliversTravel

That's cos he actually knows what he's talking about unlike the majority of idiots around here.

I can't wait to see some BF4, 720p and 60 fps is the right move. FPS games, at least MP FPS games should be 60 fps in my book. Makes a world of difference to how you play and react. Looking forward to the PC stuff too now even more 

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Starting out you'll see a lot of 1080p games, but as the hardware starts getting streatched thin, devs are going to have to make decisions. John Carmack has already said that they'll probably just end up with 720p at 30fps and choose to have higher resolution textures, more lighting, more objects rendered, and more post processing. 

Most people cannot really tell the difference. Consoles do native upscaling too which makes 720p look better on a 1080 set. Im sure these upscaling methods are going to get even better with the next gen consoles. 

Remember the PC will still set the bar and devs there do not need to worry about having an upper limit. Eventually they can just tell people to throw more hardware at their games. Can't do that with consoles.

ActionRemix

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

720p is sub HD as far I'm concerned. 1080p looks so much sharper.

StrongBlackVine

supa extra true hd?

I haven't watched anything in 4K so I don't know.

depending on the distance you sit and the size of your tv you it makes zero difference to your eyes whether or not it is in 720p or 1080p.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/09/1080p-charted-viewing-distance-to-screen-size/

you literally can't even see the difference.

science!

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

720p is sub HD as far I'm concerned. 1080p looks so much sharper.

ActionRemix

supa extra true hd?

2160p, 4x pixels of 1080p

it is just a marketing term/buzzword that people use instead of learning about how their eyes work in relation to resolutions.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Blame the cpu's tormentos

Actually, Deep Down graphics are pretty easy to achieve, But don't expect 60FPS, Because of KZSF couldn't do it, No way in hell Deep Down would be doing it.faizan_faizan

Inb4 console users say they care about FPS. clyde46

I rather have 1080p, but then you will say console user care about graphics now. No point in talking to a hermit like you.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]Blame the cpu's tormentos

It's also 30 fps. BF4 will likely look even better anyway and it's pushing 60+ players at 60 fps. Don't blame devs for prioritising the right things. BF4 will need 60 fps more than KZ SF so dropping to 720p is a sacrifice needed to be made 

tormentos is having a meltdown over this :cool: wasn't he insisting PS4 will do 1080p games thanks to the gddr5 :lol:Tessellation

Yes he was, and this is what always happns. People get in a tizzy over numbers and PR talk by devs and then when crunch time arrives they realise it's not as magical as first expected so they end up looking silly. While the rest of us more level headed people expected it from the start